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 [Official] Rig Suggestion Thread V3, Hardware Q&A RRG™

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RowanPaladin
post May 25 2013, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(djronzai @ May 25 2013, 11:47 AM)
hi there, is me , erm i decided to buy sapphire hd 7970 vapor-x ghz edition 3gb, because i can get it for RM1200 which i think its a good deal, but the processor that i m going to buy was  i5 3570 , which is not good to OC right? i m just afraid i might get bottleneck when gaming because i will OC my GPU, i found some comments from tomshardware, there is a guy who use same processor as i do , get bottleneck on crysis 3, is it better to get 3570k? oh ya BTW my PSU Corsair 650W VS ( A/80+) enough to support my GPU ,right?
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The 7970 Vapor X will do well for gaming. As for the i5 3570, you won't be able to really overclock it even if you wanted to, might be able to squeeze out a little extra (~3.9GHz). If you plan on OCing, the get the 3570k, the unlocked card means you will be able to OC it safely to 4.4-4.5Ghz with no problems. You will need a CPU cooler if you want to OC.
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post May 25 2013, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(tedisgodlike @ May 25 2013, 02:05 PM)
thanks bro  rclxms.gif

so for my new system, i have around RM 2.5k to build a new system in july 2013 (include monitor).

Im thinking to build SSF rig, using bitfenix prodigy

so, can u help me suggest the new system? thinking of using amd rather than intel.
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1. What do you intend to do with it? Gaming? If what games in general.

2. how big do you want the monitor to be(18"/22"/23"?)

Might make it easier for the gurus to help you come up with a build smile.gif
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post May 27 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(CheaTeRz @ May 27 2013, 02:56 PM)
top up, get the 7850. much better.

even 7790 is better than GTX 650 ti, dont bother getting 650 ti/ 650.
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Or add a little more and get the 2gb / OCed Edition. whistling.gif
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post May 27 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(w0rmee @ May 27 2013, 04:14 PM)
•Hi all master Sifu's here . This will be my first gaming RiG in a L0o0o0o0ong time (movin from ps3,xbox ) and would appreciate it very much if i can get some constructive feedback/criticism on the below quotation . It's mainly for GAMING & playing HD movies on a 46" Tv which i already have , so it's my first time using a "TV-Screen" as opposed to a PC screen. MY budget was around RM4k , perhaps 5k if justifiable . I'm also really confused if i should go I5-3570k or I7 3770k . Below is a quote i got from a certain company . Appreciate ALL HELP thanks.. cry.gif  rclxub.gif 

Intel Core I7 3770 RM890
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 RM459
Gskill RipjawsX 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz RM240
CM Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RM135
Corsair Carbide 400R Casing RM299
Sesaonic S12 II 620W PSU RM290
WD 1TB Caviar Blue HDD RM199
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD RM299
Leadtek GTX670 2GB DDR5 RM1090
Liteon 24x Sata DVDRW RM65
Total RM3966
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1. If you do not plan on Overclocking, k versions will serve you no purpose.
2. I'd go with Kingston Value 8Gb = RM18X for RAM
3. Unless you really like Nvidia, I'd go with a Sapphire HD7970 Dual-X. Which would be able to keep up with even a GTX680.

Overall, good build.
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post May 27 2013, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(w0rmee @ May 27 2013, 05:22 PM)
Thank you for your quick reply! I do plan to overclock it(seems pretty easy based on youtube , just the time needed to stress test and all) . How much would  Sapphire HD7970 Dual-X ? Is that able to OC as well? I plan to OC both my graphics card & processor . Just seeing a lot of ppl saying i7-3770k is future proof , while some say i5-3570k is good enough. (Thanks for your feedback on ram issue and cost cutting there too  notworthy.gif )
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7970 Dual-X is RM1299. If you have some spare, I'd personally recommend the MSI 7970 Lighting Boost Edition which is around RM14XX.

The i5 3570k(Around RM700) can be overclocked safely to 4.4-4.5Ghz with no problems. I wouldn't worry about future-proofing too much, especially not when you can save a ton without it(3770k is close to 1k iirc) as technology moves too fast these days to tell what's going to happen 2months later. I'd recommend getting the i5 and a better GPU.
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post May 28 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Clem1982 @ May 28 2013, 11:00 AM)
Oh yes, my mistake, looks to be all rounded though if you're looking to save maybe you could do with a Gtx670 and having more RAM?? cause you're gonna be editing videos, and is OC-capability necessary?? cause if not, you can get away with a Xeon and a cheaper mobo as well  whistling.gif
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More RAM is true. Btw, he already has a watercooler, doubt he would have put it in unless he already plans to OC. I'd suggest not going the GTX680. This is just me but a GTX780 from newegg will only cost 2k+. if you're really looking for a super-high-end build, that's the way to go.
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post May 28 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Raiko @ May 28 2013, 11:50 AM)
hmm ok,as for 780, hmm might have to wait then. for haswell aswell.  sad.gif
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wouldn't recommend that. Haswell is to be announced in June, who knows when you will get them here. Unlike the GTX780 which has already been released. If you don't like waiting there are already a few local resellers who are already selling them... At a premium, of course. whistling.gif
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post May 28 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Raiko @ May 28 2013, 12:52 PM)
ish sure mahall !
770 sounds good  biggrin.gif
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It's definitely going to cost you. Which is why I buy most of my GPUs directly from newegg, that and because there are no longer any resellers for EVGA in M'sia. My rig(in my sig) is pretty dated, and i'm saving up for a new one, with a GTX780 in it sometime next year.

Again, I only suggest this because I assume you'd want a rig that would last you a few years. If not, the 680 would do perfectly fine.
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post May 28 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 28 2013, 03:12 PM)
mainly gaming purposes

AMD FX8350
Asrock 990FX Extreme 3
Avexir 8GB 1600MHZ LED RAM
WD 1TB Blue HDD
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X HD7970 GHz Edition
Corsair GS600 PSU

+ aerocool 6th element chassis

total RM3505, a bit high compared to in west malaysia sweat.gif

still lacking a monitor, budget rm500 or so quite flexible, any suggestions? unsure.gif
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Sapphire 7970Ghz Edition -> MSI 7970 Lightning Boost Edition RM1450

23" Dell UltraSharp ISP
Idealtech is doing a promo on them:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1151485&hl=
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post May 28 2013, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ May 28 2013, 04:21 PM)
hmm...actually i was comparing between i5 3570k + AsRock Z77 Extreme 3 and fx8350 + AsRock 990FX

intel set here costs rm1130 and amd set costs rm1030...tho amd consumes more power right? unsure.gif

and also amd is better with multi tasking? unsure.gif

im still not 100% certain...
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Multitasking just depends on how fast your CPU is. I use intel myself, and the 3570k only allows you to overclock it. If you don't plan on OCing, the i5 3570 will do fine, and it's cheaper too.
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post May 31 2013, 05:12 PM

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So my little bro's screen had an "accident" and now I have to get a new one....

Dell 23" U2312HM or Samsung 23" S23B350H?

And will the 8ms respond time on the Dell be felt during high-speed gaming?
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post Jun 1 2013, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(RowanPaladin @ May 31 2013, 05:12 PM)
So my little bro's screen had an "accident" and now I have to get a new one....

Dell 23" U2312HM or Samsung 23" S23B350H?

And will the 8ms respond time on the Dell be felt during high-speed gaming?
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Nobody has an idea about this? sweat.gif
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post Jun 2 2013, 01:46 PM

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Build I'm going to get in a few months time.

Intel Core i5 4670k - RM 725
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming RM 539
8GB Value RAMx2 RM RM 344
1 TB WD blue RM 189
PLEXTOR M5S 128G RM 299
EVGA GTX770 4GB Classified - RM 1500+
Corsair TX650M RM 429
CASING: NZXT Phantom 410 Black /w White RM 365
Total: RM4400++

Doubt I'll be going above dual SLI so opted for the G45. hmm.gif Am I missing anything?
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 2 2013, 03:08 PM)
NZXT Phantom 410 & EVGA GTX770 Classified (ACX cooler?) drool.gif

you mean TX750M? 750W is RM429 while 650W is 359
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Yeah, 750W for if I need to SLI. Yeah, ACX coolers, since I'm planning to OC both the CPU and GPU and I hate messing with watercooling. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 2 2013, 03:32 PM)
gold and silver brows.gif sexy as hell

i suggest 850W, better safe than sorry ya know? wink.gif
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Definitely might consider that, extra head room is always good. Now considering either the cheaper MSI card or go full gold/black with the Asus Z87-A. brows.gif
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post Jun 2 2013, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Jun 2 2013, 05:17 PM)
someone in GS selling Rosewill PSUs brows.gif

cheap and Gold certed as well brows.gif
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I saw it. But no 850w versions. Only 750w or 1000w for their Gold/platinum series.
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QUOTE(GBros @ Jun 2 2013, 06:30 PM)
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It is time to put Rosewill PSUs into considerations, which the PSUs are not that bad in terms of performance and warranty, 1:1 unit exchange from local distributor from 3-5 years.

Anyway the Rosewill flagships, Tachyon/Capstone (Superflower OEM) performance are almost at top-notch, you can't agree more when you use it.
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Do you have anything around 850w? If so I would gladly drop my TX850M plans and just ship. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(GBros @ Jun 2 2013, 07:19 PM)
I will make a reservation for you if you want, awaiting replies from distributor. biggrin.gif
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Kindly PM me the prices for Capstone and Tachyon 850w(if available). I'll need some time to decide, but more options are always welcome.
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QUOTE(djronzai @ Jun 2 2013, 10:02 PM)
hi is haswell i5 4570 is use to compete against i5 3570 ? or i5 4670 ? because i just look up some result from the internet, stated i5 3570 is better in terms of overall performance than 4570, and i notice 4570 only run 3.2 Ghz
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The i5 3570 should be compared to the 4670, as both of them has unlocked versions and are the fastest in their respective line-ups. If you're thinking of upgrading from the Ivy, I'd hold off till Intel comes out with the tick version of the Haswell. If you'd using something slower/older, why not? smile.gif
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QUOTE(w0rmee @ Jun 3 2013, 07:00 PM)
Please clarify what you meant by "tick version of the Haswell" . And when ? next year?
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Here's an explanation on Intel's tick-tock model:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Tick-Tock

As for Haswell's succersor, it will probably be announced next year, yes. Currently the next gen chipset is codenamed Broadwell.

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