Today , is my 2nd time for going to office. After going there , I saw nobody opened the door for me then I called the person who interviewed me asked him whether got ppls in this office . He said that those ppls went to breakfast then on the sametime , I asked him when can I get the offer letter and I told him that I cannot accept the situation with no access card and no offer letter. Then , the fellor might misunderstand me and said I no suitable for this job.

Then , I called the guy again and clarified with him , but he said he got nothing to say..

please give me some advices.

What are the options you have? Actually none. Move on and get another job.

The person already pi$$ed off and told you that you are not suitable for the job. You know what, it's very easy to get another fresh grad to fill in... so he might be thinking of "why not I get another one who complains lesser?"

Anyway, I suggest you not to go back to the office. What kind of office that will CLOSE their premise for "breakfast"? Unless the office only has 1~2 staffs, I can't see any reasonable excuse for that. It's just unprofessional for me.

As I said, move on and get another job... forget about this

please be patient on interviews, some company may practice on having breakfast sometimes;
I asked him when can I get the offer letter and I told him that I cannot accept the situation with no access card and no offer letter.

this is abit rude, normally a company will give u access card within the 1st week of work, some company will only give you offer letter after the 1st day of work;

edit: if you feel you can have better offer else where then is OK.

This post has been edited by ltw82: Apr 25 2006, 11:00 AM

That really a suck company. Look for others.

If u made the decision on leaving and not returning.....at least leave in a more professional way.
Either write him an email or calling him up and informing him of your departure. Don't get angry or spiteful....u will face much much more difficulties in the future than this. Take it down with a pinch of salt.

it's ur second time reached there wif a closed door or ur day 2 in the job ?

if u hv only work for 2 days...i will say patience is the answer....

if u hv been working there for weeks yet still without access card and with them telling u tat u r not suitable for the job (provided by u did not make any mistake or make any comments that pissed them off), u better start looking for job....


jus my 2 cts.

Thread starter's remark was a bit rude as a newcomer, I agree with that.

Access card normally will be given after sometime working, I agree also.

Whole office closed because of breakfast, I can't convinced myself to agree on it... unless there are only 1~2 staffs, which gives you impression how good that office is (I mean the way they do business)

I guess threadstarter need to be more patient and speak nicely to them. But the company should have at least given a temporary pass until the actual access card is produced.

nope they din give me at all. somemore i called 2nd times , the guy stop talking with me awhile and said nothing to say because i insisted . I have told him that if you have problem you might tell me . somemore , this company don't have website and management level only believe him
i think no more chances..

small company is like that with 5 staffs only, only 1 highest boss will handle everything;
how can u expect they have management dept?

maybe sometimes the person who holds the key havent come yet, juz wait awhile or take a walk nearby lah;
in real life u cannot demand something from ur boss....
u can demand only if employer dint paid u salary....

i agree with itw82....they are ur potential employees,try to understand more from their point of view also

wyyew, refering to ur last remark.if this troubles u; no website means no company u should say to them after the 1st or even before the interview that u r not interested.this time of pass tag thing is nothing to shout about....they might not have enough to go around and take time to order...if u r doing sales then there is a prob since u r in and out in the office all the time.but if u r in IT, admin etc. stay in the office you shouldnt worry much about it....

I went to an interview before, is some temporary job. The big building opposite Zouk. The person who interviewing me suck balls, he can't speak proper english, because of that I re-consider taking the job.

If you are working under someone, of course you would want the person to be better than you, right? Just like going to college, hoping for a good experience lecturer, not a i-know-nothing lecturer.

yeah i will certainly reconsider........one thing i learn from industrial training.i went there to expect to learn something from my superviser instead we were teaching him everything on graphic design....i got frustrated while i was there as they were defintely slave driving us......meeting after work,cut pay if we go for coll lecturer meeting which is compulsary.come to work on sat even if there is nothing to do.fake to customers telling them we are full time staff and lastly using free software expecting to create tv3 ad.because of that they complain to our lecturers saying our work is not up to standard......N IT company not having legal IT software...ghesh...but if u think about it..industrial training doesnt have to be place to learn from but learn from it...

I have sms at 5pm said that he request for boss to speed up the offer letter . At first , he said that I din suitable for this job . Now he said this words , " what does it mean"? I din demand for it . I just know the truth whether you can give me "offer letter" only . He can answer me " you can receive it this week" i may accept it. fresh grads don't mean you couldn't demand for it. just that you dare to demand anot?

before that , I said whether you had your own website so i could have a clear idea of it. he just changed topic and said this company potential to grow just that lack of ppls.

ahahhha wyyew it sounds like a new company...there are good and bad side of it...my industrial training, we had to do their manual, power points, website etc. for them.good side: u can learn a lot since many things are not done yet so have to start from scratch. and the bad side: since its new ; sometimes documentation and work flow is not proper yet....and they need u more than ever to do lots of work since its new(hard to apply annual leave)

come on saturday do nothing? wowow........
but the thing is software licenses are expensive, if invest into a project but dint manage to get back the profit, how?

mostly small companies will use freeware or shareware to survive;
you rather the extra cash add into higher pay salary or some license software?

ltw82...yes true! in terms on business doesnt make sense..but the company i was working in was web e commerce thing...dont tell me they cant invest in 1 since they are in the business legally speaking also? very bad too....later we use the freeware they except our work to be something we can do in photoshop and illustrator.the worst thing happened was that our lecturers believed them and we had to sit another round of learning the same subject.we then showed our work to them and demand a talk with the lecturers.then only they found out they had been misusing us...

kimmie

industrial trainning? no comment on it cuz i dont have the chance;
u from which collage ot uni?

i can say got many companies use 100% freeware;
as for ur case u need to explain to the lecturer for what is going on, business ppl cannot be trust, they intend for profit only, not helping u at all;
how come u dun have a workflow report?

i was from coll it was twinning prog with uni.....
everytime lecturer come visit our work place the ppl will say we are busy.when we are not....in fact the right thing they should do it demand at least once see our work place and when we are working...as u said business ppl cannot be trusted...yup most of them are sly....we have a black book which we jot down our work and after the training we have to write report about the experince...after the whole class complained and the report the lecturers stopped sending students there even tho that industrial training place ask for more.....

This post has been edited by kimmie: Apr 26 2006, 12:19 PM

i think that's not much of choice here, industry trainning did give u a good look at the real world right?
when in study period u still can protect urself by jotting down what u've done....

real working life is different from study, try tolerate and makes life happier....