if only buy for esthetic den oklaa..but performance is a big no no really if hook to a prescott or newer intel stuff..

true true......thermaltake's like, a starting step for baby ducklings.
then they progress to the real stuff, like Storm's, Eheim

but people like you dont even need these starting step since you are not baby duckling LOL

OMG u caught me no more mh since i joint blue server. That mh was used to against those angmor in blizzard battle net... haha

i got what he meant actually, i agreed it's expensive but it can be used in my next system upgrade too. i know my next cpu would be hotter so this is just an early investment. Have to start upgrade bit by bit now or else 1 shot hantam cpu, m.board, ram, vga,WC, casing i'm gonna eat shit

my pc running 24x7 + OC so without WC 1ghz OC is impossible. every pennies you spend u'll get different return so get cheap WC kits by as well add few hundred to ease my regretness right

anyway i'm really appreciate everyone's advices and comments and, my calculator still working fine


my wallet will go for thing that bang for bucks, who perform better price cheaper i'll go for it, no sticking on brand. Currently P4 isn't in my list, say no to presscock coz it fails and X2 is way too expensive so gotta wait for awhile...


when the time comes, the price will be different too, this one ngam ngam ho

hmm how to say... this 745 isn't really baby duckling compare to Tt Bw SE or rocket. the 12x12 and 24x12 radiators maintain idle and full load temp. It's not a entry level kits, there are some reviews out there with high rating, you may check it out if interested. i ain't fan boy for this

those eheim or swiftech stuffs perform in good result but they are actually overcost even their angmor is complaining bout it

well, you dont want to accept this truth eh?? But since money is yours, is your way of spending it, i am just giving some NOOB opinions k
i said, high end air cooling solution could be some where on par with your current setup.
Have you tried some high end air cooling solution ??

for this, it is obvious enough that you are baby duckling.
For a true watercooling kaki, these ThermalCrap () 745 is simply crap and useless.
2 radiators, with small tubing, so-so waterblock, weak pump, cant really do much IMHO
High rating on reviews is based on the product itself only and not doing comparison with other product right??

Those eheim and swiftech or other stuff, is not really overcost since they offer relibility and performance.

If they are really overcost, why still got loads of people buying their products ??
Simple, beause of performance

Peace

This post has been edited by LittleLinnet: Apr 27 2006, 11:05 PM

Nemind la, it doesn't look ugly, it looks good too.
Save for a Storm G5 or a Apongee and a better pump
everything else looks good.

by right i shouldn't have to reply this since u never into watercooling world thus judging this and that futher compare hsf to watercooling kits, you may check with those WC users how many of them willing to go back to hsf and how many of them willing to spend for those wallet killer kits.... sigh

till you get into water world then come out such statement... baby duckling or whatever it's all up to you. no more explain or arguement from me on my kits and i'm still really appreciate everyone's comment

still the same peace and i ain't here to start a war. fade....

Is it TT wc so poor ? im using Bigwater SE with Aquarious VGA block and so far it could cool off sytem well enough ... (i guess)

under normal room temperature around 27C.....

CPU: Idle 30C. load 38C (LGA 775 630 3.0GHZ )
GPU: Idle 52C. load 61C (X1800XL )

is this result really poor ??

i am curious coz my ThermalRight SI-120 and AC Accelero X2 will arrive around end of may from the bulk order.

So try to test out the difference between this so so water cooler against the highend air cooling stuffs.

anyway i think the topic starter just want to share his experience only .... so why make him feel that his decision is wrong

i aint here to make war too, peace

seriously, i dont want to poke at you, but if you've made enough research from the users themselves, you will know this is not worth it.

why do i say so ??

- the block is not good at dissipating heat to the water, because the base is way too thick and there are excessive chunk of copper by the sides that are meant for aesthetics but it stores heat in the copper instead of releasing it into the water

- pump is way too weak for so many loops. water flowrate is too low

- flowrate into the block and raditor is way too low due to pump and tubing restrictions.

- gravity kills pressure, and pressure loss kills performance. so many loops going vertical will limit the flowrate.

- too many loops in the radiator.....and the loops are in vertical position kills pressure again.

sorry to dissapoint you.

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Apr 29 2006, 01:49 PM

actually 4 cpu that is acceptable!

the reason y that is not good enough is, pump tak cukup power & small tubing!

so what kind of H2O kits around RM500 is recommended?as i know P4 2.4 oc to 3.4 isn't easy to achieve somemore with 35c and i saw the tubing width for this 745 kits standard 3/8" in tt website.do you think we can get any H2O kits around RM500 range that can out perform it?

so the solution is increase the tubing size and get a more powerful pump?

i guess the Bigwater SE pump really isnt nice enough ..... my gc temp wont drop much after being load to high temp during gaming...

that's why im getting the so called highend air cooling , want to try the difference ...anyway maintaining WC isnt cheap and full of hassle

This looks good....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=270322 <--but I think the bulk's off temporarily.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=219878&st=320# <--by metalzone...

You could try either of these....
I know about the more powerful pump being true to most cases and tubing size I suppose it's just common sense to get a bigger tubing too. But gotta make sure your radiator is up to the job as well.

Btw what's the hassle of maintaining a WC setup?? I just check my setup everyday to see if got potential leaks, buildup of any algae or whatnot, and once a month when I clean my system (Yes, I still have 2 intake fans and 1 exhaust and 1 blowhole )

I'll see if it's necesarry to flush it. Been 2 months since I last flushed it, might have to do it again.

that's the issue men, have to dissemble the whole set and clean up each component then have to double check the tubing all the time.

really missing my old days with air cooling....somemore got no money to upgrade the wc anymore ...coz those swiftech and dangerdan are so expensive ...

of course money value wise is there....just that cant afford highend WC kit....

This post has been edited by Doom: Apr 30 2006, 12:25 PM

how much u buy the Bigwater watercooling?

are you gonna mod it?

bro, how u open the file pc probe?
like at ur pict.

http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpuz7vi.jpg

its monitor software for asus mobo..u install it then jus run it