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 Prospective Law Students Gateway V2, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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BravoZeroTwo
post Jul 7 2014, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Shanashi @ Jul 6 2014, 11:46 AM)
Hull is boring during my year only 10 people went there from BAC. The ranking doesnt really matter as it changes every year. Hertfordshire is a party place and its near to London which is a big bonus. It has a very modern teaching facility and lively place. People are friendly if  you are. Just make sure you stay in Dehavilland campus or you will die commuting in winter as the Uno bus is bloody hopeless after 6pm and when it snows the bus doesnt operate. I have walked from Dehav campus to Campus Lane in 5 inches of snow before and I can tell you its pretty messed up when you cant feel  your face toes and fingers.  If you are looking to score a first class you should go to Herts. Having said its not impossible in Hull but it is more difficult.  If possible you should apply to Cardiff if your results are good.

All the best. If you are applying to Herts you better book Dehav now as that place fills up the fastest.
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Hi Shanashi,
Congrats on your achievement both the Law degree as your passing of the Bar exam. Are you practicing now ? How long were you in the UK if I may ask here ? What's the cost like in total for a year ? Thanks.
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post Jul 7 2014, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Shanashi @ Jul 7 2014, 10:05 AM)
Hi Bravo thank you. I am still in UK now for the summer. Been here for 2 years. Cost of degree is about 9k Sterling Pounds if its the degree you are asking. The BPTC is 13k and above depending on your institution. Your accommodation would set you 3+ to 5+ thousand pounds depending on the luxuries of the accommodation (shared unit, suite etc). Your food is very subjective. I have been cooking my own meals even before leaving to UK so I hardly spent much, I just continued doing the same thing. I think in total I've spent close to 2k pounds. Note I don't drink much nor do I eat out maybe once a week so its very very subjective. You will spend alot on traveling if you take the trains much as the prices and be rather ridiculous without a rail card and during peak times. Best to buy a week or 2 in advance if you are traveling outstation.

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Hi Shanashi,
Why did you read your Law degree ? Did you do the UKT programme ? Thanks.
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post Jul 7 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Shanashi @ Jul 7 2014, 11:16 AM)
yeap thats the one I did. I did it because there are no lawyers in the family just doctors and accountants. Its a lot of hard work and sacrifice but it should pay off one day.
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My apologies for asking the wrong question here at you. I was actually asking 'where' did you read your Law degree in the UK ? Thanks.
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post Jul 8 2014, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Shanashi @ Jul 8 2014, 12:06 PM)
No worries. I did it in Herts.
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Morning Shanashi,
How long were you in Herts ? How about your BPTC ? Thanks.
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post Aug 4 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Eazy @ Aug 4 2014, 04:03 PM)
Oh man! Thanks for the info!  laugh.gif
Personally I'm also a gamer, but for some reason, I just can't get hooked on games recently (which is a good thing  , i guess, =P.) Funny how once you have nothing better to do like studying (my intake is next month), games just feels like a waste of time Most games (even new ones) bore me pretty quickly.
So I'll try not to start any online games that will occupy too much of my time (though I might still play offline games once in a while i guess, too much of an AC fanboy to let up so soon sweat.gif )

But, although I never skip classes (unless I'm sick or a family emergency), I have this problem of falling asleep in class. Not that I deliberately want to sleep, with arms folded and resting my head on the desk and all, but I'll start nodding off if the class gets too boring, so I'm somewhat worried in this aspect (i used to nod off a lot during bio and chemi, where the teachers just drone on and on endlessly.) Drink lots of coffee maybe?  sweat.gif

Again, thanks for the info! I'll be sure to work hard to get into the bptc! smile.gif
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Which Uni are you attending ? Is it for final year ? Thanks and cheers.
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post Apr 10 2015, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Apr 10 2015, 01:09 AM)
Anybody mind to share their working experiences here? What are the pros and cons to work in a small/medium/large firm, which is more advisable and why?
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Mind sharing your own experience here ? Are you going to chamber at this moment ?
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post Apr 11 2015, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(shienchong0910 @ Apr 10 2015, 07:22 PM)
Actually I am still deciding between lawyer and doctor.Many ppl say a successful lawyer is usually the one who always plays nasty tricks. What is the future of law in Malaysia? Confused....
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I think this is a sweeping statement across the board. They are good and genuine lawyers who are driven by their professional ethics and conscience. Some who want to make a difference in a person's life.
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post Apr 11 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(chiahau @ Apr 11 2015, 01:45 PM)
Both also no future.

Lawyers are saturated, plenty of bad ones out there and decent ones are always too expensive or poached by large firms already.

Doctors, even worse. There's like a 6 months waiting list now to get a placement for houseman-ship.

By the time you graduate, maybe 1 year wait already.

If you want to make money, this is not the right field.

So think properly what's your interest is before signing up.
Chambering gonna suck.

Let's face it. Large firms are taking in large amount of people to work for them.

If you are good, you will stand out. If you are not, you'll probably disappear in the midst of all the chambie students.

Just an advise from a senior lawyer I know coming from one of the big firms in M'sia, CB students are out to get one another just to get on top. Always watch your back. It's wild wild west in such firms when you are chambering.  sweat.gif
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Bro,
How big the firm is your friend working with now ?
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post Apr 11 2015, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Apr 11 2015, 10:43 AM)
I'm a year 2 law student. Will be transferring to Cardiff this September. I've applied for Shearn for attachment before my transfer to see how it feels to work in large firms. Still haven't receive their calls yet. I might try applying to medium sized firms like Thomas Philips and Albar.
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All the best, bro.
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post May 5 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(qazhang @ May 3 2015, 01:45 AM)
Yes, in fact it is part of the requirements prior admittance to the bar.
Could you please provide your curriculum vitae. May be able to assist you from there.
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Sir,
Are all the courts' proceedings conducted in BM nowadays right from Magistrate's Court to Federal Court ?
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post May 5 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(qazhang @ May 5 2015, 12:57 PM)
May be in lower courts.

Let me quote you what a learned judge said ""We all know the language of the common law is English and all the case law and textbooks on the common law the world over are written in English and it would be poor advocacy to put your case to the tribunal with translations from the English text.....Always apply for permission to address the court in English." - Dato N.H. Chan, former Court of Appeal Judge"
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Thanks, sir.
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post May 5 2015, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(qazhang @ May 5 2015, 12:57 PM)
May be in lower courts.

Let me quote you what a learned judge said ""We all know the language of the common law is English and all the case law and textbooks on the common law the world over are written in English and it would be poor advocacy to put your case to the tribunal with translations from the English text.....Always apply for permission to address the court in English." - Dato N.H. Chan, former Court of Appeal Judge"
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Sir,
Has His Lordship's statement become a precedent thereafter ?
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post Jun 8 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(zone3310 @ Jun 6 2015, 06:29 AM)
probably in the UK because not every "prestige" university offer distance learning, but i fear this would not be possible anymore since i might get a 2:2 (which completely ruled me out of the LLM requirement) sad.gif probably going back CLP and become another average Ali LOL......
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which university are you with for L.LB ? Thanks.
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post Jun 8 2015, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(zone3310 @ Jun 8 2015, 04:16 PM)
Currently a final year student at UK from Northumbria University
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Hi, were you from from UKT program ?
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post Jun 8 2015, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(zone3310 @ Jun 8 2015, 06:27 PM)
Yes i am, from BAC in case you want to know more LOL
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Bro, is it tough to study for UKT program ?
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post Jun 11 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(TzeThon @ Jun 11 2015, 07:03 PM)
well i guess it depends on what you want to work as in the future. if you want to be a lawyer then CLP is a must. personally i think that LLM doesn't help much with career progress unless you're planning to be a professor.
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Hi there,
Which route did you take ? CLP or Bar ? Thanks.
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post Jun 12 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(TzeThon @ Jun 12 2015, 05:41 PM)
i took CLP. regretted because it's only recognised in Malaysia.
but if you're not planning to work elsewhere it's not too bad to have CLP.
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where else recognises UK Bar ?
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post Jun 16 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(TzeThon @ Jun 16 2015, 05:54 PM)
yes. having UK bar definitely gives you more opportunities when you're applying for in-house jobs.
was practising in malaysia for a while.
am in singapore currently. CLP is already useless to me now.
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Bro, what career path are you at ? Can share with me here or we take it pm. Thanks.
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post Jul 29 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Goldberg1111 @ Jul 29 2015, 02:41 AM)
hi, anyone here could help me?

I have completed my first degree in accounting and my second degree in LLB. However, my problem is that, after SPM, I did my diploma in account then degree in accounting. I continue my second degree straight after my first degree. The question now is, CLP requires A-level or STPM which i dont have. Any suggestion?
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why did you take up Law ? what happens to your Accounting degree ?
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post Jul 30 2015, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(Goldberg1111 @ Jul 29 2015, 07:13 PM)
realized that doing account is sucks then decided to do law
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Oh ok. thanks. May I just ask how did you end up doing an accounting degree in the first place ?

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