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TSyhtan
post May 17 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 17 2013, 02:34 PM)

I repeat hwat I say :-

" Cashflow and FCF would on many cases tell u whether managements are sincere with what they promise u or not.

It is another form of auditing the management sincerity of a company u invest with them."
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Take Hartalega as example, every RM1 real cash earned, 60% invest into PPE, 30% dividend, 10% retained as cash

I respect the way the handle the cash flow notworthy.gif

QUOTE(Madbull @ May 17 2013, 02:35 PM)
I guess most of the ppl here are accountant..but i am totally opposite of accountant.. laugh.gif
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U don't have to be accountant in order to excel in stock market wink.gif
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post May 17 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 17 2013, 02:50 PM)
What is PPE  hmm.gif

Sori,  financial terms keep  Ubahing , though substances are about the same.
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PPE = Property, plant & equipment, or Non-current asset aka Fixed asset

Accountant really love to change financial term sweat.gif

QUOTE(Icehart @ May 17 2013, 02:51 PM)
Actually a lot of pessimistic mood on the overall stock market. Must be those who lose a lot of money refrain others from following their footsteps. 
and my father is one of them.  laugh.gif
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Those losing money one, normally they treat stock market as "Casino", the mentality they brought in is quite dangerous

In this world, where got free lunch without doing work? laugh.gif
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post May 18 2013, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ May 18 2013, 06:40 PM)
MBSB smells like msia version meryill lynch. Maybe is a good bet.

Anyone can tell me how its business model works? Main borrowers are who?
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Information about MBSB i known of

1.Is not govern under BNM due to its business nature (This part is quite complicated), therefore not much of compliance to adhere, this is the main risk as BNM intend to push MBSB to become financial institution. That's why rumour of RHB merger is spreading around.

2.Majority of loan given to civil servant and housing loan (at lower rate than commercial bank). Loan to civil servant possess a lower NPL rate, since loan instalment is able to deduct against its salary

Among all the Malaysian Bank, i would say CIMB business scope is closer as US bank
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post May 20 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ May 20 2013, 12:46 PM)
Plantation as long as don't fall flat on their faces is already good enough. But then again.. plantation like First Resources actually reported +20% earning year on year, so it could have a surprise or two..
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First Resources latest quarter report is at 31st Mar 2013?

QUOTE(gark @ May 20 2013, 01:00 PM)
For plantation you need to see the locations as well, some location is much more fertile and FFB yield + OER can have 20%-30% differences.

Most fertile locations.

1. West Semenanjung - Perak/Selangor
2. Sabah - East Coast (Tawau, Kunak, Lahad Datu)
3. Kalimantan - South/East Kalimanatan
4. Sumatera Utara (Central + East)
5. Riau (Eastern near Dumai)
6. Palembang (Southern incl. Bangka Island)

In fact Indonesia is generally approx 10-20% more fertile than Malaysia...
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If i'm not mistaken, Johor land is one of the fertile land in Peninsula, Kelantan and Terengganu has the lowest OER and FFB yield
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post May 20 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 20 2013, 05:18 PM)
I am getting Kiasi liao after reading many bad political news.

Hence, I would sell 50%  , if any stock hits 100% gain mark.

Just my way, not asking others to follow.
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I will hold as long the company has foreseeable future and non-political link business tongue.gif

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post May 20 2013, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 20 2013, 09:26 PM)
This is also a scary sign, want to borrow money to invest bigger.  tongue.gif
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2818729

and another!
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2818982
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I sense a correction is coming soon brows.gif laugh.gif
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post May 22 2013, 09:49 AM

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Let's continue the new thread here icon_rolleyes.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2820963

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