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 Proton Saga FLX 1.3 upgrade/modify, Improve performance & fuel consumption

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post Apr 9 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 9 2013, 03:52 PM)
Saga price at RM42k, so you said upgrades & add up would be less than 50k?
Only 8k to get all the upgrades & add up TS wants?

Not sure if you are drunk, to me at least 10k is needed to get ori parts. Except TS want it for decoration purpose. whistling.gif

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Clearly, you did not get my point. Even if TS do spend 8k on upgrades, it is still cheaper than buying another car. What new non-national car can you get for RM50k? If the TS bought a dugong and asking about the same upgrades, I'm sure you will show a very different attitude.

And I would love to see how you manage to arrive at the 10k price tag for all the things listed.
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(wordtalks @ Apr 9 2013, 03:52 PM)
Saga price at RM42k, so you said upgrades & add up would be less than 50k?
Only 8k to get all the upgrades & add up TS wants?

Not sure if you are drunk, to me at least 10k is needed to get ori parts. Except TS want it for decoration purpose. whistling.gif

Yes, ford fiesta is a good car, good handling especially. Since you are not upgrading all at once, hand so itchy need to upgrade already?
It would be better if you can work harder and save up more money to get the Ford fiesta you wanted. Then only start to upgrade from there. brows.gif
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There is alot of affordable way to do it as 15" rim + tyre RM1500 got balance,
Bars i got UR quotation total 8 bars RM1765 but as we recommend only front & rear strut+ rear anti roll = RM650

So for the others like exhaust system have to depends where u buy, performance filter, braided hose also ...so by right around 8k can gao dim

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post Apr 9 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2013, 03:28 PM)
There is nothing much you can do about the FC, electronically or mechanically. Just have to train your footwork. If there is a genuine ECU tweak that can improve FC, every single one of us would have done it already.

But if you read our most recent threads, you can see a few members actively coming up with efficient driving techniques and sharing amongst each other.
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Hm, I thought ECU tuning can make sense, since the factory setting should be meant for poor fuel quality. It can be tweaked for better fuel, and will give more power and/or better fuel consumption, at the cost of not being able to drive on low quality fuel.

Though it may not make much sense in Malaysia... our fuel may not be that good...
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 9 2013, 04:05 PM)
ooitt.... u eat poison more than me  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  tongue.gif
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Mana ada, standard mod je ~ icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 9 2013, 04:08 PM)
Hm, I thought ECU tuning can make sense, since the factory setting should be meant for poor fuel quality. It can be tweaked for better fuel, and will give more power and/or better fuel consumption, at the cost of not being able to drive on low quality fuel.

Though it may not make much sense in Malaysia... our fuel may not be that good...
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My opinion was for Campro's ECU only.
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Apr 9 2013, 04:07 PM)
There is alot of affordable way to do it as 15" rim + tyre RM1500 got balance,
Bars i got UR quotation total 8 bars RM1765 but as we recommend only front & rear strut+ rear anti roll = RM650
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Good information! rclxms.gif

QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Apr 9 2013, 04:07 PM)
So for the others like exhaust system have to depends where u buy, performance filter, braided hose also ...so by right around 8k can gao dim
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Any place/shop you know are recommended? brows.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:17 PM

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FUll set UR Bar consist of;

Fender Bar
ANti-Roll Bar
Front Strut Bar
Rear Tower Bar
Rear Lower Bar
4 point Front Lower Bar
Side Bar

Total: RM 1600

Exhaust system consist of;

Hotbits 4-1 stainless steel extractor or 4-2-1 extractor- RM 500
Rear S-Flow muffler - RM 400
Full stainless steel piping, center bullet and labour - RM 500

Total: RM 1,400

K&N Drop In Air Filter- RM 300
Stainless Steel BRaided Brake Line - RM 400
195/50/R15 rims with Neuton NT8000 15" tires - RM 1,500-RM 2000 (price inclusive of normal trade in stock rims and tires at RM 500)
Rear diffuser- RM 200
ECU Tuning - Not Applicable

Grand total: RM 5,900 (Havent counted discounts and nego yet)

Even if I throw in the Unichip (2nd hand), grand total is at the ball park of RM 8,000.

Need RM10,000? FUKEN LOLZ


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post Apr 9 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 9 2013, 04:17 PM)
FUll set UR Bar consist of;

Fender Bar
ANti-Roll Bar
Front Strut Bar
Rear Tower Bar
Rear Lower Bar
4 point Front Lower Bar
Side Bar

Total: RM 1600

Exhaust system consist of;

Hotbits 4-1 stainless steel extractor or 4-2-1 extractor- RM 500
Rear S-Flow muffler - RM 400
Full stainless steel piping, center bullet and labour - RM 500

Total: RM 1,400

K&N Drop In Air Filter- RM 300
Stainless Steel BRaided Brake Line - RM 400
195/50/R15 rims with Neuton NT8000 15" tires - RM 1,500-RM 2000 (price inclusive of normal trade in stock rims and tires at RM 500)
Rear diffuser- RM 200
ECU Tuning - Not Applicable

Grand total: RM 5,900 (Havent counted discounts and nego yet)

Even if I throw in the Unichip (2nd hand), grand total is at the ball park of RM 8,000.

Need RM10,000? FUKEN LOLZ
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RM2K belanja makan
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 9 2013, 04:17 PM)
FUll set UR Bar consist of;

Fender Bar
ANti-Roll Bar
Front Strut Bar
Rear Tower Bar
Rear Lower Bar
4 point Front Lower Bar
Side Bar

Total: RM 1600

Exhaust system consist of;

Hotbits 4-1 stainless steel extractor or 4-2-1 extractor- RM 500
Rear S-Flow muffler - RM 400
Full stainless steel piping, center bullet and labour - RM 500

Total: RM 1,400

K&N Drop In Air Filter- RM 300
Stainless Steel BRaided Brake Line - RM 400
195/50/R15 rims with Neuton NT8000 15" tires - RM 1,500-RM 2000 (price inclusive of normal trade in stock rims and tires at RM 500)
Rear diffuser- RM 200
ECU Tuning - Not Applicable

Grand total: RM 5,900 (Havent counted discounts and nego yet)

Even if I throw in the Unichip (2nd hand), grand total is at the ball park of RM 8,000.

Need RM10,000? FUKEN LOLZ
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I already expected that amount... brows.gif

Not sure want Unichip or not lo tongue.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(Jonathan.J.Wolf @ Apr 9 2013, 04:25 PM)
Not sure want Unichip or not lo tongue.gif
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If you have additional RM 12,00 to spend for a new CVT then you can go ahead.
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Apr 9 2013, 04:08 PM)
Hm, I thought ECU tuning can make sense, since the factory setting should be meant for poor fuel quality. It can be tweaked for better fuel, and will give more power and/or better fuel consumption, at the cost of not being able to drive on low quality fuel.

Though it may not make much sense in Malaysia... our fuel may not be that good...
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if not mistaken, ecu setting has being map by proton. whether its has got to do with FC, only gods now. and ecu setting on saga as at today ONLY proton can do remap. there's no ecu remap setting outside proton.. yet..e.g. proton come out with remap ecu for FLX for solving jerking issue and all owner are welcome to reflash it

low quality fuel? are you saying our standard ron95 poor quality? sory but i have to say not true. ron95 can run on our saga. only different is which brand you prefer. like myself, i've try all sort of brand and bhp give me the best. the worst is caltex. really non-friendly petrol for gaga. if i rich, i fill ron97. but if think, what for? ron95 95%octane, and ron97 97%octane. only 2 % different

but if insist on what you want to be expected, install ribut api brows.gif
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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Apr 9 2013, 04:23 PM)
RM2K belanja makan
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belanja berenang dalam makanan also can. LOLZ
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 9 2013, 04:26 PM)
if not mistaken, ecu setting has being map by proton. whether its has got to do with FC, only gods now. and ecu setting on saga as at today ONLY proton can do remap. there's no ecu remap setting outside proton.. yet..e.g. proton come out with remap ecu for FLX for solving jerking issue and all owner are welcome to reflash it

low quality fuel? are you saying our standard ron95 poor quality? sory but i have to say not true. ron95 can run on our saga. only different is which brand you prefer. like myself, i've try all sort of brand and bhp give me the best. the worst is caltex. really non-friendly petrol for gaga. if i rich, i fill ron97. but if think, what for? ron95 95%octane, and ron97 97%octane. only 2 % different

but if insist on what you want to be expected, install ribut api  brows.gif
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shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif wrong la bro
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2013, 04:06 PM)
Clearly, you did not get my point. Even if TS  do spend 8k on upgrades, it is still cheaper than buying another car. What new non-national car can you get for RM50k? If the TS bought a dugong and asking about the same upgrades, I'm sure you will show a very different attitude.

And I would love to see how you manage to arrive at the 10k price tag for all the things listed.
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fine, clearly you did not get my point too. Theres no point chatting with people like you more.

QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Apr 9 2013, 04:07 PM)
There is alot of affordable way to do it as 15" rim + tyre RM1500 got balance,
Bars i got UR quotation total 8 bars RM1765 but as we recommend only front & rear strut+ rear anti roll = RM650

So for the others like exhaust system have to depends where u buy, performance filter, braided hose also ...so by right around 8k can gao dim
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yes, its a very subjective question and answer. Its all depends on TS.
if someone even willing to sponsor TS, he can get all the upgrades for FOC! thumbup.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2013, 04:28 PM)
shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif wrong la bro
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eh? terbalik ka? shocking.gif
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 9 2013, 04:33 PM)
eh? terbalik ka?  shocking.gif
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2013, 04:36 PM)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Difference_betwe...N_95_and_RON_97
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Apr 9 2013, 04:38 PM)
If RON 97 is 97% gasoline + 3% Pentane, then RON 102 or RON -30 is what shakehead.gif

RON grade is a number assigned to a fuel according to it's tolerance of compression before detonation, eg. Diesel detonates easier than petrol and hence has a lower RON number than petrol.

It does not denote the % of chemicals inside the fuel.
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post Apr 9 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 9 2013, 04:53 PM)
If RON 97 is 97% gasoline + 3% Pentane, then RON 102 or RON -30 is what shakehead.gif

RON grade is a number assigned to a fuel according to it's tolerance of compression before detonation, eg. Diesel detonates easier than petrol and hence has a lower RON number than petrol.

It does not denote the % of chemicals inside the fuel.
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i see. tq for info

well, as long saga can use ron95, then use it
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post Apr 9 2013, 05:00 PM

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oii, jgn gaduh kat thread orang la...adui doh.gif

btw if u wan to get UR get, Front, Rear, Fender (if u change to sport absorber), ARB should be enuff.. u wan more stiffer corner install Front lower arm.. or rear lower bar, u need to install to feel it which is needed~! all ppl got different taste~!

or u can get 3max front and rear bar also enuff already~!

This post has been edited by r3apers: Apr 9 2013, 05:01 PM

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