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post Oct 10 2009, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Computerman @ Sep 23 2009, 02:43 PM)
I think the eye examination will take you a few hours. As you say the pupils will be dilated on the eye examination day. Therefore u have to bring along a pair of sunglasses with UV protection, do not simply wear the sunglasses without UV protection. This is because the sunlight will get in your pupils easily when your pupils are dilated, if you wear the sunglasses without UV protection, it can not protect ur eyes, but damage ur eyes. You will high percentage to get cataract in future, of cource it is not 1 day happening.
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That is quite ridiculous.
The statement of "HIGH PERCENTAGE to get cataract" is very misleading.
Where did u get the info?
Have u undergone the procedure?
The reason they gave a sunglass is because after the pupil is dilated, everything will be super bright. Well, the pupil is dilated. Of course more light enters the eyes.
Yes it is recommended that we protect our eyes from UV.
If u say high percentage to get cataract when we are 90 years old, that may be correct.

QUOTE(yswon12 @ Oct 10 2009, 02:28 AM)
Just want to ask, during the surgery, must you open your eyes all the time. This is because I have a high tendency to blink whenever some thing come near. This is probably the first time you guys hear this but I have trouble putting on contact lenses because I always blink. Stuck at the optometrist for very long but still can't wear till today.

Also, I also heard that lasik surgery wont get you blind only make your eyesight worst. Is that true?

Thanks in advance.
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So why is there a lasik treatment?
to make our eye worse?
Think about it. Every surgical procedure, no matter how minor comes at a risk. It is a matter of balancing the risk with the advantages that we will get.
Complications are rare nowadays especially with todays newer more sophisticated machines.

Don't worry about blinking.
They'll anesthesize the eyes & put a holder so u can't close them.
U won't feel a thing.
U will see the doc wipe a wax brush on your eyes which is quite weird given that we cant feel anything.

Those who condemns this type of surgery is either a wuss or they don't know what they were talking about.
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post Nov 11 2009, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(eksk @ Oct 13 2009, 11:11 PM)
For those who have undergone Lasik has myopia ever come back? an aunt of mine did it more than 10 years ago but now she says her myopia is coming back...
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That is possible.
It is not a recurrence but rather a continuation of the condition.
Just redo the lasik.

Check with the lasik center if they cover it under warranty (i think they'll redo FOC if power increase more than 200).
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post Nov 12 2009, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 11 2009, 07:23 PM)
don't think you guys shud do tho. If fail u jadi buta. Be glad for wht you have now.
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Well I among million others did it anyway.
ignoring all these paranoid statements.
I'm not saying the risk isn't there, just take a look at the rate of failure & rate of blindness caused by lasik operation
Failure rate is very low. Even if it fails, usually the correction is incomplete.

QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 11 2009, 10:33 PM)
The minimum age to be eligible for this surgery is 18 right? My aunt has night-blindness and cant really drive at night after doing it.
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I do feel the light points at night seem a little brighter which is a known side effect.
But after a week, that didn't bother me at all.

The advantage is undeniable & worth taking the risk.

QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Nov 11 2009, 10:58 PM)
i've done mine while i was 23 years old. cost about 2.8k in puchong. possibility to get blind is quite low, no worries
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Failure rate is very low.
Getting blind is extremely rare.
I haven't heard anyone in Malaysia getting blind due to the operation.
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:03 PM)
Well, its laser and your eyes are very important, really, even tho risks are low, who knows you're one of those 'lucky' person who got it? not cursing but better be safe than sorry.

However there's a natural way to cure shortsightedness. I still remember when I was 12, my teacher, who wore a super thick glasses, don't need glasses anymore. Me and my friends did ask her how she did it. She told me she eats carrot everyday, look at green trees and grasses everyday, rest her eyes, does not strain her eyes etc.

You guys can try that tho, it works on her, why not you?
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I'm a very business minded person (i think)
Taking calculated risks is what I do all day long.
Driving on the road is far more dangerous than doing lasik. Just look for the statistics.
Yes our eyes are very important but our life is much more important. Yet just about everyone drive a car.
I took a lot of risks in my life & lasik is one I categorized as among the least risky.

Interesting what your teacher did.
I like to see some study paper on clinical trials or something if u don't mind looking up for me.
Coz this is the 1st time I heard someone cured from shortsightedness without lasik or other surgery.
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:47 PM

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super thick glasses -> don't need glasses anymore = cured to me
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post Nov 12 2009, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 03:47 PM)
sigh, you must thank God that I'm in a nothing to do mood today  rolleyes.gif

Carrots:
http://healthmad.com/health/do-carrots-imp...-your-eyesight/

Carrots and green stuff:
http://www.booksie.com/non-fiction/short_s...e-your-eyesight

Ways to Improve Your Eyesight


1. Eat lots of carrots, and when i mean lots, i mean heaps. A carrot a day keeps the optometrist away. Your carrot should be boiled and be about 7 and a half inches long.

2. Look at the colour green a lot. Green is good for your eyes so it is especially good you look outside when you are driving through the country, or driving through a forest.

3. Eating either a boiled chicken liver or pork liver a WEEK is good for you. Liver contains a lot of vitamin a, so eating it once a week is enough.

4. When you are reading, always keep the book, newspaper or computer screen at least 30 centimetres away. This ensures your eyes don't get any worse.

5. Don't read, watch tv, or go on the computer for more than 45 minutes at a time. You need to take a break every half hour to 45 minutes. Your break should be doing something physical, as so your eyes can rest. This could be just walking around, talking to your siblings, or taking the rubbish out and doing other household chores. This is so your eyes won't get tired.
Now mr.whatever your name is, are you satisfy? Can't belive I knew it at 6 and you're <insert your age here> you still dunno.
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I can't believe at 21, you still don't know how to differentiate published study paper from articles on website pages.
Mythbuster line: Everything on the web must be true.

Yes those things that they suggested is good & might help our vision.
What I want to know is the hard data. The numbers please.
I can provide numbers & data on lasik if u want smile.gif

btw, I'm tired of people using my words against me.
dont ask me for definition of what i said. U know what i meant.
As I said, to me, no need to use glasses (or contacts) is cured already.

just so u know, I'm not a medical student but I am studying something slightly related (what am i doing here. exam is next week!)
So i do know a little bit of stuff & I definitely know how a study paper look like smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2009, 04:35 PM

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u really are a troll.

This is pointless.
I'm stopping this & I'm dragging us back to topic.
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post Nov 12 2009, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 04:35 PM)
I never said I was 21 laugh.gif
You just can't face the facts that its proven carrots can help improve eyesight, not just might.
Yeah do provide data and numbers. I was just saying its a risk on lasik and you can improve it naturally w/o risking.

LOL. Means still shortsighted only at 50 etc la? I said can improve, and cured MEANS 0. Can improve till 50 so why not? sif got anyone is t 0 mark.

Just to let u know I'm not a medical student but I'm also studying something slightly related. And I know you're just only 17 laugh.gif
Good luck in SPM.
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just assuming from your username.
Guess I'm wrong then.

Didn't notice SPM is next week.

U all are welcomed in my thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=95&t=832957
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post Nov 12 2009, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(euphoria88 @ Nov 12 2009, 04:42 PM)
LOL you ni phailed dental student deyh hahahah
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huh? shakehead.gif

QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 12 2009, 04:43 PM)
do you know if there is any new promo? in 1u they had a stand, but didnt have time to stop and talk to them.
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I'm not sure.
I did at Vista the curve.
They opened a new branch in Bangsar.
maybe u should check there.
Even without promotion, the installment makes it affordable to many working people smile.gif
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post Nov 12 2009, 05:14 PM

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<- Ignoring a troll
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post Nov 13 2009, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 13 2009, 12:10 AM)
from what i remember i checked about a month ago was around 7000 or so for the custom intralasek i think thats their most expensive one.

but optimax had a booth at 1u last week. maybe got new promo prices.
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Vista have a different machine which is certified for nasa & military use. rm10k for both eyes.
Prince Court hospital also do lasik but they are generally more expensive.
maybe because they are quite new. Need to recoup the millions spent on the machines fast biggrin.gif

QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 13 2009, 01:19 AM)
RM7000 for both eyes? Whats the difference? A friend of my mom did the surgery within that price range and it was aweesome. Surgery lasted less than a minute.
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Not much difference though.
Different machine technology.
The cheapest ones usually uses the microkeratome (hand controlled) rather than all laser.

QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 13 2009, 09:17 AM)
the difference is its custom. they will map your eye personally and make sure to fix as much as possible. this is mainly for people with estigmatism. i plan to do this one soon. maybe over the coming holiday. there are some that are like rm3000 for both eyes. but the doc comes to cut your eye using his knife and his own hands  shocking.gif no thanks. hahahah
what you get for referral huh? voucher? free eyedrop? kekek
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LOL not exactly like that.
The doc uses a microkeratome & move it across our eyes by hand.
I do prefer all laser systems.
I trust tech more than humans laugh.gif

QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 13 2009, 11:04 AM)
I think I might need to go for the most expensive one since the power of myopia of each my eye is  around 800+. I heard people like me can't do it in one shot, need to do a few times?
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I'm not sure but I think all lasik is done in one go.
Depending on your corneal thickness, u may have to opt for the most tissue saving systems (which usually is the more expensive ones)
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post Nov 14 2009, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 14 2009, 09:21 PM)
I'm still a little doubtful about this. My aunt seriously regretted doing it because she needs to wear shades during the day and can't drive during the night. She's of age 50+. It could be due to her age though

Another aunt of mine around age 30+ did it a couple of years back. She, too regretted doing it because of a number of side effects(I'll find out more).
Cases of people getting blind after this are not unheard of. So far I know of none(thankfully) but almost all those I know of regretted doing this. I genuinely hope that all these problems are rectified by the new intralase technology.
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That is the risks of surgery.
EVERY surgery comes with risks.
We have to weigh whether the benefits outweigh the risks.

My mom is a diabetic patient.
Have to inject insulin everyday.
Done lasik. Shortsighted perfect. Longsighted still have to wear a thin glasses.
She's satisfied enough smile.gif

I've heard many horror stories mostly 3rd hand stories.
I weigh the risk, took it & the result couldn't be better thumbup.gif
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post Nov 15 2009, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(C-Note @ Nov 14 2009, 11:25 PM)
These are eyes we'r talking about, not a nose sinusitis or leg injury. Sure enough, I yearn for a normal life without glasses but hey, I wanna drive at night too. It seems like a common side effect to me rather than an occasional risk.
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Yes it is a quite common side effect among lasik patients but the degree varies a lot.
Seems to me that your aunt got a higher degree one.
I can already drive on the 2nd day.
The side effects don't annoy me anymore after about 1 week.
Most just complaint about halos of bright light points. smile.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(chiewming @ Nov 22 2009, 04:49 PM)

Understand from doc tat Custom ZY ASPHERIC only cure glare and Nasa will curve all night vision defect.

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I think that is incorrect.
AFAIK, both systems will do everything possible to cure all those.
Glare from bright light during the night is a common side effects.
I can live with it. Not bothering me anymore.

The difference is the system used.
Down to personal choice now smile.gif
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QUOTE(vcws @ Jan 2 2010, 11:35 AM)
Hi caerulln,

Great to hear everything is going well for your mum!

Fyi, I just recently went for a free consultation session @ mid valley, the specialist mentioned that Lasik can correct shortsightedness, but not long-sightedness.

So your mom's condition would be normal I am guessing.
Hey MNet,

I will need to speak to my specialist once more about this great plan!

but if I am not mistaken, your will have to sign a disclaimer that you are undertaking all responsibilities, thus rendering your insurance useless?

All in all, I am considering strongly whether to go ahead with this procedure. any further pointers is much welcomed!
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erm..as far as i know lasik can cure both short & long sightedness

The disclaimer is typical legal documents patients must sign before any surgery.
If u have insurance, check the terms first.

QUOTE(OnGx2 @ Jan 2 2010, 12:18 PM)
do anyone here with floaters in the eyes did lasik surgery before?
i am consider to do mine in vista/optimax in 1 or 2 months...
i have heard someone with floaters in the eyes getting even more serious after the lasik surgery...

and also, i would like to be informed if Vista(The Curve) or Optimax TTDI is doing any promotion because i am from Sarawak. thanks a lot !

(What are Floaters in the eye? Check here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floater http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/646651?hl=floater)
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I think I do have a little bit of floaters if I look hard enough smile.gif
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Jan 4 2010, 12:01 PM)
youre eyes can be burnt out of their sockets. lol. jk.

dude, either skim back over the past 15 pages (its not much) or use google plis.
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Please do not ask redundant questions.
Use the search function or google.
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post Jan 4 2010, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Augus7 @ Jan 4 2010, 12:29 PM)
i heard gt long term effect...wait till u're 60  brows.gif
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huh?
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QUOTE(santana @ Mar 16 2010, 10:56 PM)
While looking for more info on LASIK, I come across this website..
Is it TRUE ? They support their facts very well..
Anyone here with 10 years of experience after LASIK surgery or so ? Care to share your eye condition.

http://www.lasikcomplications.com/ectasia.htm
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that website is way biased.
Borderline conspiracy theorist.
LASIK is proven safe.
Any severe complications are exceedingly rare.

I want to see some peer reviewed papers on the statistics of LASIK failure before I would even think of reading the whole page of that website.

Again, ALL surgeries no matter how minor carry risks.
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QUOTE(big_eye @ Apr 13 2010, 03:08 PM)
I am thinking to do eye lasik treatment and doing some research online. Found this blog set up by a lady who did lasik in Malaysia back in 2001 and she experiences serious complications. Hopefully the technology is better now...

http://www.afterlasik.com/
http://afterlasik.com/blog/ -->updates of her situation in 2008
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1 out of 3 patients is not happy with their outcome

BS
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post Apr 17 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(sloosh @ Apr 17 2010, 01:43 PM)
My friends did it and they say it's very painful.. and scary!! sad.gif
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BS.
i didn't feel the slightest pain.
At most just some discomfort.
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