Hi Prada,
I just did my relex smile at Optimax TTDI yesterday. Here is what happens (not to scare you guys but my personal experience and what you can expect)

1) They will put a clamp on your eye (1 by 1 but its for a very short period of time right before ur escalated into the green light... in my experience...its ok... u wont feel it much and its quite comfortable as you eye will be dowsed with drips, anaesthetics etc like roti banjir.
2) Like a MRI Machine... u will be escalated slowly into the Relex Smile machine... here is the scary part... the doc will tell u to look at a green light...u must follow it.. (the green light actually moves).. once it locks on to ur eyes...u can't see it anymore... u must still look straight..(imagine the last green point location and stare straight for 20 seconds)
3) VERY IMPORTANT- For that 20 seconds (they will do a countdown)... u must not move ur eye and focus..if u day dream or wink strongly... the whole procedure will have to be aborted (Im not sure whether ur eye will be torn or not....)
4) Once the 20 seconds have passed...u will be escalated out..the doctor will then use a wiper to extract the "lenticule" that has been cut out by the green laser thru your 4mm cut. There will be a lot of pulling and tugging for 4 to 8 mins each eye (U can feel it but wont be able to see it though..imagine ur roti banjir eye under a bright light)..there wont be any pain...
5) Thats one eye done... now repeat for ur 2nd eye

Here is what happens after both eyes are done

1) U can see about 40-50% back... but everything will be very hazy/foggy - Imagine being in Genting on a really foggy day without ur glasses
2) For me... my eyes was painful/ Mild discomfort for the 1st 6 hours (ur vision will regain)... u can see better than without ur glasses but u cant read ur phone sms/ whatsapp etc (Thats weird for me... bcoz u can now see subtitles on ur tv but not read ur own phone or a newspaper)
3) Next day... foggyness will reduce tremendously and no more pain.. hell... I can read my phone and type this already.
By the way, I paid RM11900 (Relex Smile) + another RM175 (Check Up) for my procedure. No discount even with referrel letter from Jialat.

last saturday 4/19 optimax ttdi says the relex smile has inhouse promotion RM12000 not sure when the promotion end

if without promotion either relex or femto both get RM400 same discount from jialat's referral letter

hi Jialat, i would like to go for the lasik. would like to ask Can u be my reference? thanks thanks thanks

optimax still on going with the price rm8k?

I have done relex smile december 2013, after 6 months, my eye sights situation improves but still problem when looking at the laptop. it still cause a huge problem for me as my nature of work is IT. However, i dont think optimax can do much for me as they will always said its base on individual situation. Personally i still support lasik as my 2 sisters done that and has no problem, but maybe try to avoid relax smiles. but still this is base on individual. I regretted to do this operation but damage is done, just have to live with it!!!

I'm new here, I hope you guys can help me with my situation. I did Relex Smile surgery around 3 weeks back during my recent visit to India.  My numbers were -3.0 on both eyes. Immediately after surgery I got very foggy vision which improved little bit on next day. But there is no major improvement in last 3 weeks. I also got blurry vision after surgery and it is also not improving much. I had appointment with my doctor on next day of surgery and also one week after that. Both times he said evreything is good and my eyes are healing and it will take 2-3 weeks for healing considering my age (36). It has been now almost 3 weeks since surgery and my vision is still blurry and foggy, there is no real improvement. Starburst issue is still there but reduced now. After surgery I also visited 2 other eye specialists there to get 2nd opinion about this situation, they also said same thing like eyes are still healing. There is no sharpness, contrast and clarity to whatever I see now. I'm back in my country now so cannot see my doctor who performed surgery.

After coming across this forum I read lot of mixed stories about Relex smile experience and also read about slow recovery with this surgery as compared to lasik.

My question is will my vision improve over time or will it be like this forever? Does the fogginess/blurriness really go away? I have already started regretting doing this surgery but whats done is done.. Any suggestions will be highly appreciated...

Thanks in advance..

Thanks for your reply and offering referral letter but are you kidding? Whats the guarantee that second surgery will be successful and wont create any further issues?

Thanks again Jialat for your reply. So do you think my eyes are healed and vision is stabilized now since it has been 3 weeks now since surgery? Do you think blurred vision won't go away with time? If that's the case then I'll definitely need to consider 2nd surgery, I surely don't want this blurred vision forever.. Please tell me more about ASA surgery you mentioned, is it custom all lasik, is flap created in this? What is the cost of it at Optimax? Is there a Optimax center in Australia? (I live in Australia). For how long I need to wait after 1st surgery for enhancement surgery?

PS: I forgot to mention that I already have got 6/6 vision on right eye and 6/12 on left eye (test was conducted 10 days back) after smile but only issue is everything still looks very blurred and foggy, there is no clarity, sharpness and contrast like I used to get with glasses before surgery.. Left eye was worse after smile but it improved in last 3 weeks but still not like right eye..

Thanks again..

I got response from my doctor and surprisingly he doesn't seems to be worried about my blurry and foggy vision. He said its probably due to dry eyes and suggested new eye drops for dry eyes. Doctors says my eyes will take longer time to heal completely due to my age... I'm not too much worried about foggy vision but I'm very much worried about blurry vision. Looks like I need to take wait and see approach...

Its 'Genteal Gel'.. I bought it only few hours back and used it only once till now, although it moisturizing my eyes, it doesn't seems to be helping for blurriness and fogginess on my eyes   Don't know why I'm getting this blurriness and if it will really go away with time, really concerned about it now..

Thanks Jialat for your reply - Genteal Gel being 'Gel', I did expected vision to blur but I blurred only for couple of minutes. Nowhere on the tube it says to use it only before sleep. In fact it mentions about re-application if required (after 5 minutes), care for contact lens wearers (remove lens, apply gel, wait till blur goes and then insert lens again).

Elio - Thanks for your reply.. I'll try not to worry too much but its very hard as I'm a Software Engineer and need to look at computer whole day.. Everything on computer looks blurred with ghosting (I can read but nothing looks focused properly)... I'll do checkup after few more weeks as you suggested..

Question -  Which is better for dry eyes - Genteal Gel or Systane Ultra eye drops?

It makes sense to use genteal for night.. So far I have no trouble using it during day..

I took online test for astigmatism at - http://www.prokerala.com/health/eye-care/e...matism-test.php
Answer to all three questions was 'No' for both eyes

Based on this test it looks like now I might have astigmatism.. I didn't had it before the surgery, can Relex Smile introduce it? Does it go away with time? Anything to worry about?

i am going for relex smile next week.. but looking at wat had been discussed, i am starting to worry >< cos i cant do ASA due to my work nature.. i can only do ASA/relex on my left and ASA/lasik/relex on my right due to high power on the left. so dilemma wat to choose even until now..

I tot ASA got slower vision recovery? Optimax says it takes 2 weeks to actually be able to get rid of the haze, while relex smile 3-4days, lasik the 1-2 days..

I remember one of my ex.. do eyes lasik .. just after 24 hours,. she feel so nice without the specm

That's not good I'm getting worried now.. Could this astigmatism be the reason for my blurry and foggy vision since after surgery and there is no improvement to my vision in last 3 weeks? What is the solution for it (considering Smile)?

I hope mine gets better over time.. So how long I need to wait before considering contact lens considering Smile? Whole point of doing eye surgery was to get rid of glasses/lens, now I have to consider it again if I really have this astigmatism, doctor never really told be about this risk

oh.. i wish i can do custom laser lasik for both eyes >< maybe i can do custom laser lasik on 1 and relex smile another.. i cant do follow up 2 weeks later if i opt for ASA.. cos tat time i going outstation..

I hope mine gets better over time.. So how long I need to wait before considering contact lens considering Smile? Whole point of doing eye surgery was to get rid of glasses/lens, now I have to consider it again if I really have this astigmatism, doctor never really told be about this risk

oh.. i wish i can do custom laser lasik for both eyes >< maybe i can do custom laser lasik on 1 and relex smile another.. i cant do follow up 2 weeks later if i opt for ASA.. cos tat time i going outstation..

vista glaucoma screening test rm700 ? is it normal or too expensive?

Jialat, can you please let me know the cost of enhancement surgery at Optimax in msia to get clear vision? Is ASA and PRK same?

Is ASA safe? and any charge need to pay again?? as already paid 11.5k still blurry vision

i have done relax smile for 7 months, still foggy vision. but when i go to the test at optimax, the people told me my vision is good and nothing wrong they said could be due to dryness. well, i guess nothing i can do or they can do, since i made the decision. now have to live with it the foggy vision.

When I put eye drops then my vision clears but only for 10-20sec then it becomes foggy again, what this could mean, could it be dry eyes? I don't feel any need to put eye drops when I'm not in front of computer but still foggy vision and without any clarity..

do u think if i go for ASA, can i see anything after the surgery? or i will be like blind for few days tat i might need assistance to go somewhere else? it's weird becos relex smile advantages is less cornea tissue removed, thus less nerve removed, so u will have lesser dry eye problem.. but seems like more ppl getting dry eyes for relex smile..

Thanks for your reply Jialat..

Today I found very weird thing with my eyes. When I'm looking at computer everything looks very foggy/hazy but if I tilt my head down but still look at computer, everything looks clear and sharp without any haze. But it becomes foggy again when I look straight. What could be the issue? Could it be due to residual refractive error or some corneal haze that's causing this issue?

Hi Jialat, im planning to do corrective eye surgery in Optimax this month. You mentioned that it is RM 800 without discount. How can i get a discount in Optimax? Thanks