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University AIMST University Unofficial LYN Thread, New life. New beat. New Campus.

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SUSedge85
post Jan 5 2009, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jan 4 2009, 01:35 PM)
And building a teaching hospital aren't as easy as establishing a dental hospital, many fields of specialty are involved. smile.gif
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People don't build a teaching hospital to cater your need. Hospitals are built to cater the need of patients. There's already HSAH and HSB near AIMST.

MBBS (AIMST) is going to be of 2nd class (relative to aussie/uk and indon/russia in my opinion)....but I guess it'll work as long as there're people who are desperate to be called a doctor...think wisely before you regret in your 5th year...

i can imagine if this trend continues, how many doctors will there be in malaysia by 2020...
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by tat time not pateints find docs, but docs find patients laugh.gif

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post Jan 5 2009, 04:12 PM

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That's the whole point, it's to cater to patient needs. So what the point of you bringing up that we do not have a hospital? Of course establishing a private hospital isn't an easy task. The lecturers should know that with their decades of experiences.

Whether is it a second class degree or not, it depends on our graduates. It's works the same for BDS(AIMST), do you think it's going to be of first class if you were to compare it to Aus or whatsover. Of course, with an exception that if our graduates are really competent. First few batches of the school are always the lab mices, that is why a good dental school presents themselves with decades of academic teaching experiences mostly through trial and error. A good example, Uni of Queensland, currently the best dental school in Aus. How long has their dental school establishes themselves? Come on, AIMST is a young university so definitely we can't expect much from it.

And dentistry is becoming a new trend now as well, trust me that the same thing would happen to this field in just a moment of time. AIMST was the 1st private dental school to establish itself, and look now PIDC, MAHSA, IMU are sprouting out as well. It's exactly the same as how 10 years ago medicine started off, local dental school are now desperately taking in students to fill up their empty seats as well. So now, do you have any doubts in their quality? This happens in all field, my dear friend. As long as you're good, you have no worries. smile.gif

And do you have something against doctors?

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Uh, reading back the previous posts it was you who brought the hospital up. Do you think it's lecturers who build hospitals? I don't think so la...

I didn't boast about BDS (AIMST). It's gonna be lower class anyhow....so sorry that i've missed that out...

No, I don't have anything against doctors. But from the students who enrol into medicine nowadays, it makes the profession look cheap. You must agree with me here. 130 students per intake. Particularly with the ones who enter via the foundation of science programme....

I'm not sure if PIDC, IMU, MAHSA offers foundation courses for their dental students...but AIMST definitely has one...
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post Jan 6 2009, 12:35 PM

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the products of any med school is only as good as the raw materials taken in, and only as good as the teachers that mould these raw materials.........

any med school that takes in sub standard students, will inevitably produce some substandard doctors.........

arguements that they also produce excellent doctors, or that even top world class med schools produce some duds hold no water, as the intention is the point here......

that is why i am critical of ALL medical schools with poor selection criteria and process.......this is compounded in msia, and many 3rd world countries, by the curse of private medical education, which then allows people to BUY into med school........

i repeat what i have said many times........future doctors should be selected from the best students, academically, intellectually, aplititudically.......and NOT based on who can pay for it.......and certainly NOT the colour of one's skin......

none of msia's med schools fulfill this........ipts suffers from funding skews, and ipta sufers from racial skews.........

p/s going by recent media reports, trouble is brewing in the upper management of aimst.......

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post Jan 6 2009, 12:48 PM

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come on bro...you are from same university is no point for arguing the quality of school....like csrulez say...AIMST is just a young university you should give it some times to prove the quality....the doctor graduate from AIMST is recognised that mean they are qualified...the(]MBBS degree is second class relative to aussie/uk and indon/russia !!!
BDS (AIMST) It's gonna be lower class anyhow.))
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Hey dont comment the quality of any degree although that is your own school...you comment it base on what?actually nothing...only base on what you think...your responsibility is to prove AIMST is good by get a good result and pratise the good skill when you are graduate...not just keep on arguing and criticise..what for?you are just lower down yourself everyone will keep one look down on AIMST....!!!!!oh!!!!!haiz.....Hospital???HaHa....edge85 can you behave more mature and think before you say something...Do you know to built up a hospital how hard is it?It cost a lot of money...and it need a lot of high tech devices and it required a lot of expertise?or you think it just like a LEGO can simply built up?

But from the students who enrol into medicine nowadays, it makes the profession look cheap. Particularly with the ones who enter via the foundation of science programme....[I]
hey UM also set up a foundation what!!!The standard of local matriculation is not much differences from the foundation as my friend told me the standard is almost the same....The local U also do the same in order to make it easier!!!is this mean the student quality will be low...no definitely no...actually STPM or A level study very much and yes it has the high standard of course but so what!!!!actually a lot of rubbish we study such as(ecosystem,variation that kind of rubbish is not use isn it?) is not required when doing medicine or dentistry!!!so i think foundation or matriculation is actually aim for the target
accurately!!!! in addition,the priority given to the foundation student is nothing wrong...of course la...if not their study for what...it is not the same as A level or STPM which is recognised by any higher education institute...so that is reasonable!!!dont you think so?
so cheap????i don think so.....

STOP ARGUING for anything again...that is no advantages to the AIMST ...others will keep on look down on you all....dont make this seem like a kindergarden..be mature edge85...how old are you?still do that kind of silly things...you should give AIMST even more time to prove good point since it is still new and not always criticise....haiz.......... sweat.gif sweat.gif doh.gif


Added on January 6, 2009, 12:50 pm
QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 6 2009, 01:35 PM)
the products of any med school is only as good as the raw materials taken in, and only as good as the teachers that mould these raw materials.........

any med school that takes in sub standard students, will inevitably produce some substandard doctors.........

arguements that they also produce excellent doctors, or that even top world class med schools produce some duds hold no water, as the intention is the point here......

that is why i am critical of ALL medical schools with poor selection criteria and process.......this is compounded in msia, and many 3rd world countries, by the curse of private medical education, which then allows people to BUY into med school........

i repeat what i have said many times........future doctors should be selected from the best students, academically, intellectually, aplititudically.......and NOT based on who can pay for it.......and certainly NOT the colour of one's skin......

none of msia's med schools fulfill this........ipts suffers from funding skews, and ipta sufers from racial skews.........

p/s going by recent media reports, trouble is brewing in the upper management of aimst.......
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i agree with your point..especially dont base on the skin...

This post has been edited by MBBS siang: Jan 6 2009, 01:47 PM
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post Jan 6 2009, 02:37 PM

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I'd say attitude as the number one concern here in many of the medical school asides from being intellectual, intelligent etc. Therefore i always thought that interviews are an important process to screen out applicants who are not eligible. By this, i do not mean of those interviewers who mainly likes to ask about one's financial background. I think aimst should have stricter rules on their selection process, that's all. By having some interview, amplitude test or something.

Hopefully the management problem would not affect the academics much. There's too much corruption in AIMST cause of the political influences.
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Jan 6 2009, 03:37 PM)
I'd say attitude as the number one concern here in many of the medical school asides from being intellectual, intelligent etc. Therefore i always thought that interviews are an important process to screen out applicants who are not eligible. By this, i do not mean of those interviewers who mainly likes to ask about one's financial background. I think aimst should have stricter rules on their selection process, that's all. By having some interview, amplitude test or something.

Hopefully the management problem would not affect the academics much. There's too much corruption in AIMST cause of the political influences.
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Yaya! attitude is very important...and i think interview is "must" and not just the "need" in any selection of medical school!!! maybe there are not 100%to make sure the eligibility of a student but at least can make sure that who with attitude problem cannot enter to it...and the selection will be more fair as compared to the selection which without interview!!! I really hope the political power shuold be stop from being control any institute...they are not just influence but indirectly they are control everything...I really really strongly protest and disagree with any action of any political party which try to control the management of any education institute..especially medical school.....

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most of the U hv that kind of prob too. if dun affect the education can d.
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post Jan 7 2009, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 6 2009, 09:45 PM)
most of the U hv that kind of prob too. if dun affect the education can d.
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ya...thats true...very good example is UTAR...actually the political party involve the education institute have it advantages also...like the recognition,we don have to worry the recognition just like edge85 say they can pull the string...and also they are easy to get the support of financial agency and subsidies of government...so the U can provide a cheaper education to the poor student especially to the medical and allied health sciences student....But the thing is the political power will normally try to control and influence the any decision of the school authority..sometime this will indirectly lead the management of the school to be corrupted...so hopefully AIMST will not face any difficulties in maintain or create a good academic condition to all student there and of course prospective student like me Haha..... icon_idea.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


Added on January 7, 2009, 5:19 pm1hey bro....the bachelor of pharmacy not yet recognised by pharmacy board is it?
2will the application very competitive too?ask for my younger brother sake!!!!haha!!!
3how many person enrolled per intake?

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jan 6 2009, 01:07 AM)
Uh, reading back the previous posts it was you who brought the hospital up. Do you think it's lecturers who build hospitals? I don't think so la...

I didn't boast about BDS (AIMST). It's gonna be lower class anyhow....so sorry that i've missed that out...

No, I don't have anything against doctors. But from the students who enrol into medicine nowadays, it makes the profession look cheap. You must agree with me here. 130 students per intake. Particularly with the ones who enter via the foundation of science programme....

I'm not sure if PIDC, IMU, MAHSA offers foundation courses for their dental students...but AIMST definitely has one...
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YA...I AGREED..LIKE WHAT EDGE85 SAID... NOWADAYS.. STUDENTS ENTER MEDII... LOOK LIKE ROGUES AND OF COURSE SOME OF THEM ONLY AND MAKE THE PROFESSION LOOK CHEAP AND TERRIBLE.. I CANT BELIEVE MY EYES.. THEY GOING TO BE FUTURE DOCTORS.... COME ON GIVE ME A BREAK...

YAYAYA..SORRY YSHIUAN......GOOD LUCK FOR YOUR EXAM.. I HEARD RECOMBINANT DNA PAPAER WAS HARD..... rclxub.gif

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the paper ok la, not hard. if no study sure hard la. laugh.gif
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post Jan 7 2009, 10:59 PM

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wasai!!!!!everyone just ignore me oh????If I say something wrongly im here apologize okok?forgive me oo!!!!haha.... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif nod.gif nod.gif
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Added on January 7, 2009, 5:19 pm1hey bro....the bachelor of pharmacy not yet recognised by pharmacy board is it?
2will the application very competitive too?ask for my younger brother sake!!!!haha!!!
3how many person enrolled per intake?
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mbbs shiang,u will get good and correct answer for your question... once u give a call to aimst..
telephone no is 044298888.. and ash for the respective school.. and that person will entertain u in just few minutes.. they clarify all your doubts.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif dont be hesitate to give acall to aimst icon_question.gif
good yshiuan..... all the best for rest of the exam..
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i think the few of us lurkers here better set up an AIMST FAQ page.

First thing any prospective AIMST student should do if they want to enquire about the course, is to call the university.

If you have anymore questions, the students in this forum are more than happy to answer the less obvious questions.

eh edge85, i bet both of us will be more active again since it's EXAM SEASON again. arrrrggghghghghghghghg..

We've got a clinical paper that covers stuff from year2-4... die lah like that=(

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post Jan 8 2009, 12:32 PM

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now most of us having exam. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jan 7 2009, 11:42 PM)

We've got a clinical paper that covers stuff from year2-4... die lah like that=(
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imagine when you start working, and need to recall stuffs from year 1-5/6......... biggrin.gif
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when working still hv to study la, have to input new knowledge.

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