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University AIMST University Unofficial LYN Thread, New life. New beat. New Campus.

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jayelleenelial
post Jul 3 2008, 03:26 AM

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jul 3 2008, 04:19 AM)
These foundation students can be real annoying sometimes. Especially on how they behave at the study area, treating it like a McDonald's outlet.
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must be the old age talking.

there, there old man edge85, we were young once.

*smiles at the young ones fondly*
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post Jul 3 2008, 05:23 PM

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I've got something to share here...i know many ppl condemmed the cafeteria food, but seriously speaking, i feel that the vegetarian food is really yummmmyyyy.....i cant get used to the food here at 1st coz i dont eat chicken n the fish here really sucks (at home i only eat tofu)...so i opted the vegetarian food instead n it turned out to be really delicious...really love eating it n it's quite healthy too...

btw...i lost 6kg becoming a vegan smile.gif of course i din lose all da 6kg in the 3 weeks here in aimst la...or else my parents would hav definitely pulled me outta here XD
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post Jul 3 2008, 07:25 PM

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Yeah, I suppose cafeteria food has improved alot since these Jaya caterers came. But many say they suck because they're not used to Indian cuisines.

I love the roti sardin tho. I have to admit they proly have the best roti sardin in the northen region lol!
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post Jul 12 2008, 10:26 PM

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wahaha...i thought that i'm the only one who feel that the foundation students r quite annoying especially when they are "STUDYING" in study area....
they chat and laugh as they like...when other ppl use non verbal conversation by eyes to show their anger mad.gif ,they still cant get it...it's really annoying for those are going to sit for the exam next day....ppl go to study there because there is quiet and air-conditioned so v can concentrate not like our hostel rooms which r stuffy n sometimes noisy.... BUT nowaday the study area is worst than cafe at night!!!!they use it as chatting+joking area but not study area...sigh..... vmad.gif icon_question.gif
shaun,do u feel that???smile.gif

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post Jul 12 2008, 11:16 PM

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Yeah, some form of regulation should be enforced. We should suggest this to the student council, who's no where to be found after the election.
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post Jul 13 2008, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(edge85 @ Jul 13 2008, 12:16 AM)
Yeah, some form of regulation should be enforced. We should suggest this to the student council, who's no where to be found after the election.
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Hahahahaha, what, time to set up the opposition?biggrin.gif

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post Jul 13 2008, 04:58 PM

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AIMST Founder and Director Board Page:
http://www.aimst.edu.my/other_pages/founder.htm

Founder: YB Dato' Seri S Samy Vellu

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Got value AIMST paper?
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post Jul 13 2008, 08:45 PM

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What has the founder got to do with value of anything? All he did was contribute money to the university.

Lots of money.
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post Jul 13 2008, 09:44 PM

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S'vine866, Shirvine BPharm 3rd batch? LOL. Din expect you to register at lowyat.net. Yeahhhhhh, it should be a nice place to study but made worst by our beloved foundation mates. Nyways i prefer my room more. Hahaaa.

Got value AIMST paper? What does that mean? O.o
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post Jul 13 2008, 10:22 PM

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He's saying the degree here bo laku...
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Ohh i see. Seriously, what's the founder gotta do with the laku-ity of our degree. LOL.
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post Jul 13 2008, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 13 2008, 05:58 PM)
AIMST Founder and Director Board Page:
http://www.aimst.edu.my/other_pages/founder.htm

Founder: YB Dato' Seri S Samy Vellu

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Got value AIMST paper?
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I challenge you to look up the qualifications of each and everyone of our lecturers. Then you may proceed to talk.

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post Jul 14 2008, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 13 2008, 11:07 PM)
I challenge you to look up the qualifications of each and everyone of our lecturers. Then you may proceed to talk.
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How about me challenging you to deny that 9 / 10 lecturers in your university are indians?
How about telling me how many of your lecturers got their bachelors degree from India?

Do not count the foreign advisory council in.They are just paid to put their faces there for reputation just like Bill Gates being an advisor to the MSC project but does nothing.
Microsoft made Singapore as its SEA HQ instead.

This is an MIC initiative university created to take care of the Indian community in Malaysia.
I don't think it is a wrong or my statement here touches any racial sentiments because the Chinese's MCA community does the same thing with UTAR so does the Malays.


Added on July 14, 2008, 12:43 am
QUOTE(csrulez @ Jul 13 2008, 10:58 PM)
Ohh i see. Seriously, what's the founder gotta do with the laku-ity of our degree. LOL.
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It has nothing to do with the founder but the current state of MIC is what you need to worry more about.


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post Jul 14 2008, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 01:40 AM)
How about me challenging you to deny that 9 / 10 lecturers in your university are indians?
How about telling me how many of your lecturers got their bachelors degree from India?

Do not count the foreign advisory council in.They are just paid to put their faces there for reputation just like Bill Gates being an advisor to the MSC project but does nothing.
Microsoft made Singapore as its SEA HQ instead.

This is an MIC initiative university created to take care of the Indian community in Malaysia.
I don't think it is a wrong or my statement here touches any racial sentiments because the Chinese's MCA community does the same thing with UTAR so does the Malays.
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Are you going to find fault in the quality of the lecturers based on their race?

I don't see a problem, as long as their degrees are recognized. They are also PHD holders, don't forget that. For example, Dr. Somayagi and Prof. Maurya are both world renown professors.

From the dental faculty, if you want to base credibility according to their race, then FINE. We've got a very colourful team of staffs on board and they all have excellent academic records and have world class universities on their resumes.

I've seen more fantastic lecturers than lousy ones.

The fantastic lecturers are those who come in and rattle off an entire chapter and do not need to refer to the book even once.

Lousy ones are those who only know how to read from slides.

Honestly, what's your beef with this uni being run by MIC and being founded by Samy Vellu?

I, as a student, I look at it as an establishment that caters to deliver education to those who want to pursue it regardless of race, creed or colour. I acknowledge that it caters to the indian community.

But the university has never adopted the quota system or I would not be here today.

I am a Malaysian girl and I am pursuing the course of my dreams.


With people like you, there will never be Malaysians but only malays, indians, chinese, kadazans, ibans, melanaus, punjabis etc.

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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 12:40 AM)
It has nothing to do with the founder but the current state of MIC is what you need to worry more about.
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Why do we have to worry about it? The university is fully set up, and MIC is not the sole contributor of AIMST's funds.

And so what if they got their degrees from India? I know many Malaysian practitioners who graduated from India, and they're all doing fine. So are my lecturers.

Please think before you make accusations. Otherwise it makes you look stupid.
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post Jul 14 2008, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 14 2008, 01:01 AM)
Are you going to find fault in the quality of the lecturers based on their race?

I don't see a problem, as long as their degrees are recognized. They are also PHD holders, don't forget that. For example, Dr. Somayagi and Prof. Maurya are both world renown professors.

From the dental faculty, if you want to base credibility according to their race, then FINE. We've got a very colourful team of staffs on board and they all have excellent academic records and have world class universities on their resumes.

I've seen more fantastic lecturers than lousy ones.

The fantastic lecturers are those who come in and rattle off an entire chapter and do not need to refer to the book even once.

Lousy ones are those who only know how to read from slides.

Honestly, what's your beef with this uni being run by MIC and being founded by Samy Vellu?

I, as a student, I look at it as an establishment that caters to deliver education to those who want to pursue it regardless of race, creed or colour. I acknowledge that it caters to the indian community.

But the university has never adopted the quota system or I would not be here today.

I am a Malaysian girl and I am pursuing the course of my dreams.
With people like you, there will never be Malaysians but only malays, indians, chinese, kadazans, ibans, melanaus, punjabis etc.
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Samy V, has been questioned repeatedly about AIMST by his MIC board in meetings after his lost in the general elections.It seems they want him to be clear about AIMST's directions and its continued fundings.

With majority of indians being lecturers there, do they practice equal favour when marking papers to other races?
How do you define standard when you have yet to experience and compare lectures from people of other races?Just because they tell you they're good, you believe every word?

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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 03:00 AM)
Samy V, has been questioned repeatedly about AIMST by his MIC board in meetings after his lost in the general elections.It seems they want him to be clear about AIMST's directions and its continued fundings.

With majority of indians being lecturers there, do they practice equal favour when marking papers to other races?
How do you define standard when you have yet to experience and compare lectures from people of other races?Just because they tell you they're good, you believe every word?
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Are you a cat? Do you have nine lives to live through kindergarten up to university to experience a plethora of lecturers from all corners of the world?

If you can ask me if I have yet to experience and compare lecturers, I can ask you this: Have you had your paper marked by the lecturer at my university?

same shit right?

Also, does the word ID Number means anything to you? If my lecturer is so free as to scour through the exams division's lists of students and their associated ID numbers, then they must really hate other races. Which I believe would not be practiced here. Unlike you. Please be more civilized.

We have questioned this before, about Samy Vellu losing his seat during the elections. We have been told by a reliable source(no need for you to counter), that the two issues are mutually exclusive.
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post Jul 14 2008, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(jayelleenelial @ Jul 14 2008, 02:07 AM)
Are you a cat? Do you have nine lives to live through kindergarten up to university to experience a plethora of lecturers from all corners of the world?

If you can ask me if I have yet to experience and compare lecturers, I can ask you this: Have you had your paper marked by the lecturer at my university?

same shit right?

Also, does the word ID Number means anything to you? If my lecturer is so free as to scour through the exams division's lists of students and their associated ID numbers, then they must really hate other races. Which I believe would not be practiced here. Unlike you. Please be more civilized.

We have questioned this before, about Samy Vellu losing his seat during the elections. We have been told by a reliable source(no need for you to counter), that the two issues are mutually exclusive.
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You definitely do not need 9 lives for that.A good university with mixed lecturers from all types of races should allow you to experience that which is not the case for AIMST.

You were the one who said that your lecturers were top notch.I see the need for you to convince me on that instead of the other way around.Coming from what you said earlier about relying on lecturers who do not rely on books and slides to teach is not convincing enough.It only shows that if you can pass your exams just by taking down lecture notes and memorizing them is no different from the act of spoon feeding.That is no different from secondary school days.

ID to identify individuals without revealing their race?Wow that's interesting.Do you even write down your name on your exam sheet of papers?Why do they even implement such conditions unless it's really true that people discriminate?

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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 03:38 AM)
You definitely do not need 9 lives for that.A good university with a mixed blend good of lecturers from all types of races should allow you to experience that.


I think you are getting sleepy. Your sentence structure is seriously sucking.


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You were the one who said that your lecturers were top notch.I see the need for you to convince me on that instead of the other way around.Coming from what you said earlier about relying on lecturers who do not rely on books and slides to teach is not convincing enough.It only shows that if you can pass your exams just by taking down lecture notes and memorizing them is no different from the act of spoon feeding.



Again, you are assuming. Maybe you should just stick to your Samy Vellu bashing seeing as that is your only ammo.

Till the day we get bad press about the way studies are conducted OR if any of our graduates made a boo-boo in his respective field, then we may continue this conversation. Till you see results(or lack of it), then you judge.

I feel it is pointless for you to argue with me about the credibility of my lecturers. But because I missed out on a few things when I talked about my colourful lecturers from my faculty: My dean himself was the dean of the school of dentistry of Hong Kong University. He helped set up the school of dentistry there alongside the help of his assistant dean back then who also transferred over here to join him. Before that, he was the dean at The London Hospital dental School. We've got an Indonesian professor on board, a chinese ex-NUS lecturer who is teaching us orthodontics, two malay dental tech lecturers, two indian clinical lecturers, a Malay lady who is a retiree from the Ministry Of Oral health and is currently our Dental Public Health lecturer, one indian local anesthesia lecturer and a few others who are taking care of the other years. Oh, and two white lecturers who have beautiful resumes who are our Oral Physiology/Biochemistry lecturer and our Oral Microanatomy lecturer.

Please say the word Indian again.

Also, are you clear about the way I study? Are you sure that the only way I study is by memorizing? Maybe I need to take a photo of all the books I bought in my room that I refer to when I use my slides as headlines. Don't judge me if you don't know my studying style.



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ID to identify individuals without revealing their race?Wow that's interesting.Do you even write down your name on your exam sheet of papers?Why do they even implement such conditions unless it's really true that people discriminate?


.... ok, I don't think I've got alzheimers and I've only sat for my last yr3 final paper like three weeks ago. I clearly remember that I only had to write my ID Number, the date and the subject of the paper. My dear, please get your facts right before laughing. smile.gif

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QUOTE(ark890 @ Jul 14 2008, 02:38 AM)
You definitely do not need 9 lives for that.A good university with a mixed blend good of lecturers from all types of races should allow you to experience that.

You were the one who said that your lecturers were top notch.I see the need for you to convince me on that instead of the other way around.Coming from what you said earlier about relying on lecturers who do not rely on books and slides to teach is not convincing enough.It only shows that if you can pass your exams just by taking down lecture notes and memorizing them is no different from the act of spoon feeding.

ID to identify individuals without revealing their race?Wow that's interesting.Do you even write down your name on your exam sheet of papers?Why do they even implement such conditions unless it's really true that people discriminate?
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Hey, how come only she gets replied! I'm STILL waiting for mine.

Spoon feeding? I think that happens in most parts of Asia. BUT, mind you we have PBL. Lots and lots of PBL. Half of our dental lecturers are Brits, so we do get the best of both worlds. And it's the clinical phase which will really determine how good you are.

And come on, the ID system is for confidentiality and official purposes. As professionals, would discriminating do any good to any party? I don't think so. It's not that the lecturer will win what, more votes? i.e. there's no reason for discrimination at university levels (I don't know about IPTAs tho). Besides, 80% of my batchmates are Chinese. And everyone is doing fairly fine.

Speaking of discrimination, aren't you a Malaysian? Get used to it.

Isn't it obvious that you're now turning to English. Running dry on Google-facts? Whatever happened to Sami Vellu lol...

Anyway, maybe you like facts. Here's our dean. Try this: http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v186/n4/full/4800050a.html if it means anything at all.

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