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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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post Oct 20 2016, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(emperor_o4118 @ Oct 20 2016, 09:01 PM)
Hi all, i recently book house at Sr Sendayan Seremban.
House price - Rm538888
net income me and wife - Around RM4500 joint applicatiom
Finance - 90%
Commitment - car Rm550
credit card - monthly rm175

i have calculated roughly my dsr around 70%, my question how are my chances for my application to be approve? I apply with CIMB, RHB, Maybank n Ambank.

What are other factors that bank consider to approvr my application?Is DSR calculated bank will be higher compare to standard DSR calculation?
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Based on your income should be okay to get if 90%

You can improve your income further if you got
Side business
Part time job
Rental income
Asb

The dsr is based on your income range so for your income level will be around 70%

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post Oct 21 2016, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Oct 21 2016, 09:34 AM)
Hi,
I currently have a semi-flexi loan with RHB Bank.  I'm looking to convert this loan to a full-flexi loan (RM 1mil over 20 years).  I have asked RHB Bank to give me a quote, but they don't seem that interested (maybe because they get to earn less tongue.gif).

I'm asking regarding:
1) Fees for moving loans across banks.
2) Estimated monthly amount I have to pay.
3) Any other fees.

I can give more details via PM.  I don't want to provide full details in an open forum.  Basically, I'm asking agents from other banks to contact me with offers if they're interested  smile.gif
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You're asking about refinancing I guess?

1. There are some Banks offering zero moving cost if you loan more than a 500k. Otherwise the moving cost for 1mil should be no more than 20k.

2. It depends on your age but assuming with 35 years tenure it will be around 4670 per month

3. Other fees would be mrta or MLTA
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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 22 2016, 12:54 AM)
Hi sifu..

need your advice. i plan to buy a second house located at Damansara Utama. the price is about RM 1m.
My current details are as follow, please guide me on the max. loan amount I will be able to undertake:

Age : 29
Job :Finance Manager
Gross pay : RM 13500
Nett pay : RM10,500
Bonus : estimate 3 months a year

Commitment : Insurance : RM300
House : total RM 2100 (joint loan - remaining 450 months *40 years loan*)
Car : RM 1,500 (remaining 26 months)
Existing Mortgage Loan (JB property)
Loan outstanding : RM 480k
current account (flexi loan) : RM300k cash
monthly payment : mentioned above RM 2100.
Rental income : 1,600

Thank you!!
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Hi there!

Based on your details provided you can loan up to 1.8 million

So a loan to purchase 1 mil should be okay

Loan eligibility will varies from different banks depending on your salary

Interest rates will varies from bank to bank also depending on your loan amount.

a. If your loan amount is 400k, the current interest is 4.35%.

b. If above 500k, you're entitled to the lowest 4.3%.

Things you need to consider when buying a property
1. You need to consider legal fee cost and stamp duty to be paid when you purchase a property. Which is normally about 5% of the purchase price.
a. Determine who to include in Sales and Purchase Agreement and Loan Agreement.

2. You need to consider mortgage insurance when you obtain your loan to secure your property in the event you are no longer around or fallen critically ill. Your mortgage insurance will pay off your loan. There is MLTA and MRTA in the market.
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3. I will need to analyse your personal document and check on your CCRIS and CTOS to make sure that your loan will not encounter any issue such as late payment, special attention account and bad repayment history.

4. Feel free to let me know if you have any further questions.


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post Oct 22 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 22 2016, 01:03 AM)
thanks. may i know what is the best rate currently exist in the market? my existing loan with Alliance, i get 4.27%. would it be good to continue with Alliance combine to get better rate or it makes no difference if i go for another bank?
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actually makes no difference now as the banks are quite competitive, some even getting up to 4.25% now.
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post Oct 22 2016, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 22 2016, 01:08 AM)
thanks. i heard some of the banks require the borrower to buy the what MRTA or MLTA insurance, is that truth? because i insist not to purchase any insurance for my JB property and Alliance still approved my loan.
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Depends on certain banks, nowadays the bank will require you to purchase a minimum MRTA to get the loan, otherwise they will impose higher interest rate / don't approve ur loan.
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post Oct 24 2016, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 24 2016, 09:44 AM)
Anyone here can share based on your experieced what is the best interest rate for mortgage currently? Is it 4.2%?
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4.2% is only for the first year @ fixed rate, subsequently it's 4.4%.

This is offered by Hong Leong Bank

Regards to the closest to 4.2% will be 4.25% which some ppl managed to get it.
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post Oct 24 2016, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 24 2016, 04:41 PM)
thanks bro. anybody so far is there any good free gift from outsource. e.g. ringgit plus and etc. because i plan to apply a housing loan. purchase value 990k.
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No free gift aside from that, comes from their own pocket
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post Oct 24 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 24 2016, 05:19 PM)
oh. okok. is subsales. any idea the cash back value?
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There is so such things as cash back value. It's how those agent would cut their commission to give it to you back which I do not condone such unprofessional scheme to solicit business.
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post Oct 24 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 24 2016, 07:07 PM)
erm...just my opinion, i don think they are unprofessional. i would think is the same thing that when we go to the mall to apply credit card and the sales executive give you some free gift, vouchers and etc, some agent give you discount for your first year insurance which is coming from their "commission" as well.  frankly speaking, now is a realistic society and we have a very competitive market, everybody will just opt for something benefit more to them.

anyway, thanks for your advice bro.
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This is unacceptable in the code of conduct of an insurance agent and will be immediately terminated by the insurance company if found out. It's not okay and we need to say it's not okay otherwise why be called professional when you can't even follow the codes properly.

If robbing someone is okay if someone else is doing it does that mean that it's okay ? Do you have to be competitive by robbing someone else to justify that someone else does it so why can't I rob someone ?

Want to opt for something better ? Then be more professional rather to spit at the name of professionalism with discounts, freebies, etc which does not associate with professionalism.

Bank officers might not be a professional job but if you're seeking for good advise then be prepared to be professional about it rather than taint the title of Professional with discounts and rebates. It just doesn't jive, you don't associate Premium & Cheap when you go to a store. Would you go to a top tier shop and said to the store owner, I want to look for the most premium Ginseng @ RM1 and discount further please ?


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post Oct 24 2016, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 24 2016, 07:44 PM)
i think you react too much because everything is on the basis of " you wish i love"  and nobody force anybody to do it.
And why bank officer might not be a professional job, i think you are too much and also mind your word here.  if you ever receive a free gift from the sales executive by applying a credit card, it makes no different because they bought the gift from their commission.
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If it's what is being offered by the bank as stated in their brochure then it's fine but if such offer had to whispered through your ears with "Hey if you sign up with me I'll give you RM200 back from my own" then it's clearly a wrong conduct and obviously you do not know what a bank officer is bound by the Banking Act for such actions. There are somethings that can't be done then it can't be done no matter how you try to turn it to the left or right.

If you're talking about outsource then by all means as long as they have not sign up with any Banking Act. They can give you everything they want, if they would like to remain this way as part of their business model operation then we can't stop them. We can't stop someone who wants to give away his money and build his reputation such as that. However if you're attached to a bank, then you represent the bank and if this conduct is permitted, what example is it telling to the other employees and the reputation of the bank ??

And no, you don't have to ask me to mind my words if you're not up to discuss about it.

QUOTE(snowswc @ Oct 24 2016, 07:50 PM)
add on. even a lot of insurance agent will give provide an iphone if you purchase above certain value and this is what is happening in the market everyday. of course, the consumer will not simply buy the product because of the "gift" but is really based on the need. frankly speaking, i won't ask the agent to give me an iphone but i will accept it if they offer me an phone. for sure i wont say no to accept the gift.
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Another example of wrong doing being conducted in the industry.

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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Oct 24 2016, 08:13 PM)
Chill man. It's just other person point of will. MOreover, the fact is he she ain't hinting that people sign deals based on gifts and stuff only.

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You are thinking very narrowly, why not think of it as they provide a professional services, clients love them, sign the deal with them. In the end, the firm value such loyal clients, give gifts and voucher for their loyalty.

And not luring them with rebate instead of rebate based on appreciation.

Chill yourself down..

You don't need to drill down to intense debate or argument with everyone that doesn't stand on the same point of the fence yo..
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Sorry I won't bend my back to ppl who think a wrong is right. Clearly you're trying to make things worse by approving such act.

Clearly you didn't read the discussion that we're having, as I mentioned my example is with a direct bank. If your outsource firm would like to provide such gifts and vouchers then it's fine. I won't be stopping your business to do that if you need to be on a "competitive edge".

Calling me to think narrow, can't fathom how other ppl can do a better business than me is being so judgemental and clearly you don't even know me and just dish out negative words just because we haven't been in good terms. You're not in a very good position as well to say that. Anyways I've enough of this discussion and will definitely be the last of it. Thanks
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QUOTE(jeffy9292 @ Oct 27 2016, 01:28 PM)
What is the documents required to apply housing loan
If sole proprietor?
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Sole prop you'll need

SSM (business must be above 2 years)
IC
6 months current account statement
Income Tax 2 years
Booking Form

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QUOTE(jeffy9292 @ Oct 27 2016, 01:53 PM)
Income tax confirm need?
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Income tax need. Otherwise will consider from the current account statement. Which might be based on percentage which might bring down your overall eligiblity as the % used might be used based on the industry of your business. If you got declare higher income tax then it'll be better to use the income tax
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Oct 31 2016, 11:21 PM)
question:
if buying new property from developer, is it advisable to use same lawyer for loan agreement as well as SnP?
will the lawyer give discounts for using his services for both SnP and loan agreement?
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Normally the SNP and Loan already given free by the developer then you got no choice but to use their lawyer

If the spa is free but loan is not but they'll tell you that if you use the same lawyer for the SNP then they will offer you discount

Its up to you to decide if you prefer to use their lawyer to save cost or to appoint ur own lawyer
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QUOTE(pr0pofol @ Oct 31 2016, 11:28 PM)
for this particular one, spa and loan not free but the price of house is very much discounted

but even if the spa is free, loan is under bank's decision to engage which lawyer right? usually their panel lawyer

when u say they, u mean the developer?
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Yes the developer

Normally it'll be the panel lawyer of the bank
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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Nov 4 2016, 11:15 AM)
want to buy another house underconstruction for RM235,000
want to enquiry financing 90%

Saving at current account : RM42,000
Saving at ASB now : RM60,000

Amount paid income tax : RM5,000
Net income declared to LHDN : RM70,000

Housing Loan : RM273,867/RM280808 (RM1381 installment)
Shop lot : RM322,968/RM352,000 (RM2246 installment

Credit card 1 since 2015 : 38569/58400
Credit card 2 since 2014: 0/15000
Credit Card 3 since 2012 : 0/10000

Personal Loan 1 : 15,497/30000 (installment RM763)
Personal Loan 2 : 15,124/22000 (installment RM550)

Car Loan : RM26,972/RM65,000 (RM888 permonth)

Rental income House : (rental) RM1400/RM1381 (installment)
Rental income shoplot : RM1800/RM2246
so can i get 90% for all of commitment vs income that i have right now?
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Hi Bro

Based on ur commitment, can't take up any other loan as your owing to the bank is quite high especially with your credit card commitment

If you can settle off some of the debts then can help Abit
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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Nov 4 2016, 12:53 PM)
oh really? Erm...
although i've rental income for that both property?
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Ya normally bank only take 70 to 80% of the rentals income.
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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Nov 4 2016, 01:00 PM)
based on Credit card 1 since 2015 : 38569/58400
how much i need to paid to lower down that CC outstanding
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If you want to loan 90% of 235k you'll need to fully pay off the CC outstanding to afford the loan

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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Nov 5 2016, 07:20 PM)
Thank you for your tremendous respond and analysis.
But can i know how ocbc n affin can offer the highest financing among the others bank
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There isn't much analysis but copy paste of lengthy post with basic information actually.

My advise for you is that if your dsr is on the verge of burst, I don't recommend to take loan further unless you're comfortable with the commitment that you're committing to every month
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QUOTE(maximushiglander @ Nov 5 2016, 09:22 PM)
Yes. I can commit for my future loan
no worry boss
But still find solution to get approval
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Alright

QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 6 2016, 04:58 PM)
Hi,

Would like to know the current rate for 1st housing loan @ 730k @ maximum tenure @ private sector (AA pilot)

I know Bank Rakyat offering 4.35%. How about other bank/
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Will be around 4.25 to 4.3% for 730k loan

Mbb pbb rhb CIMB

QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Nov 6 2016, 05:24 PM)
Hey,

1 - so I am assuming 4.35% is on the high(er) side?

2 - May I know the different between default/standard loan and the semi flexi?

2.1 -What are the tasty rate they offer, approximately?
Thanks in advance.
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1. It will depend on loan profile such as ccris and ctos and salary range and company you work in

2. Nowadays it's all semi or full flexi loan

2.1 the rate on full flexi loan could be high er by 0.05 to 0.2% depending on the bank

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