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 Proton Prevé V18, more and more on da roads!

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post Aug 20 2013, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(preveverp @ Aug 20 2013, 12:14 PM)
drool.gif sounds like a comfortable place! but are they good in servicing/warranty?

Heheh i would love the turbo, and i've seen your posts can see you're very happy with the turbo! Glad for you.

But few things kept me from the turbo: 1) maintenance cost 2) more expensive than the exec around 10k .. And honestly, when i test drove it.. It was quite slow. No offense... But no doubt the CFE engine is good to push this heavy car. It was smooth, but slow.. Just my opinion ya..
So i guess i should be expecting an even slower ride with the Exec..  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  I've already had enough of fun with turbo with my previous heavily modified proton, which i just sold off... the thing i will miss most is the shocked look on other bigger CC car driver's faces whenever i slow down later to give friendly wave... after smoking them.  tongue.gif  My first car of more than 10 years. Sigh.. sad.gif Anyway.. Moving on.. Now i just want a more comfortable ride without the need for speed. Getting old..
heard of this branch too .. are they efficient in their servicing/warranty claims?
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No complaints in servicing. All the complaints have been rectified, and generally servicing is nothing to shout about. The waiting area for owners is certainly comfortable as it is huge. TV, wifi etc. There is a large window whereby owners can view their cars being serviced from the waiting area. There is also a mini cafeteria whereby owners can sit an enjoy free coffee, tea and biscuits.

The Turbo is good, powerful with paddle shifters for some fun drive but also will burn more fuel. No problem that you feel the car is slow. To me it was powerful. My only complaint is the damn Turbo engine noise and CVT whining voice. That is inherent in the car itself. Plus GPS in the centre console too. Anyway I can understand the desire for a more comfortable ride, ie. comfortable takes precedence over sporty performance and need for speed. Young chaps in their early to mid twenties like speed, power in acceleration and performance. Older men in their mid to late thirties would prefer a more comfortable and quiet drive. I want both fused together, though not really possible since comfort don't really combine with performance and driving dynamics.




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post Aug 21 2013, 10:00 AM

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The waiting period for appointment at Proton Edar Service of Centre Excellence along Kesas highway is so long. Called up today the whole of this week is already full and not available. Only Wednesday onwards are available.

Does anybody have issues with some annoying sound from the back seat of Proton Preve Turbo when driven at low speeds up to 60km/h? Some "Nyek nyek" sound, though I am not sure where the sound comes from at the back seat. I've adjusted the foldable seats at the back many times and yet the sound is still there. Hopefully it can resolved.

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post Aug 21 2013, 10:07 AM

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Thanks for the information. I am optimistic it can be resolved. I didn't think of the metal parts of the car earlier but more on the seats. I think you are probably right that some metal parts are loose.
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post Aug 21 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Subber @ Aug 21 2013, 10:10 AM)
No problem, i'm also having that issue with the chasis flex. Keep us updated on what COSE says. Thanks!
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Ok thanks. I am keeping fingers crossed the "nyek nyek" sound can be resolved in one day with the service centre. If not, I can always drop by another day. I've already booked an appointment with them on next Friday, just one day before the National public holiday.

Cheers.
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post Aug 22 2013, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(Arndt @ Aug 22 2013, 01:27 AM)
mine cant even snap on properly  sweat.gif
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the Preve Turbo fabric seats feel cheap, and yes the adjustable/foldable rear seats in design don't snap firmly, as it is still slightly lose even though it's "secured" firmly.

Anyway, for the "nyek nyek" sound that is coming from the back seat area(not sure where the sound is originated from), the sound is gone yesterday evening and this morning. Now the interior of the cabin is as quiet as a mouse except for the Turbo engine noise and CVT whining sound without all the rattling noises in the cabin due to poor fitting. Will continue to monitor further. Though I don't expect this same level of quietness after 2 years of usage. Hopefully things inside the car will only start to rattle from 3 years onwards.


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post Aug 22 2013, 07:50 AM

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For those driving Preve Turbo, when going downhill a steep slope, do you realise that the car's rpm will shoot up high up to 3,000rpm as if the engine braking is automatically applied? I experienced this several times on a relatively steep slope on an overhead bridge. If doing downhill Genting Highlands, I guess we will need to switch to manual mode and use the Paddle shifters to change gear instead, as I suppose the car will go into high rpm and move relatively slowly on the steep slope. I am guessing the car will stick to the 2nd or 3rd gear when going down a steep slope in Automatic, unwilling to engage into higher gears thus causing the car to move slowly down the slope at high rpm. Not a very fuel efficient way of driving.

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post Aug 22 2013, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Aug 22 2013, 07:58 AM)
Yes it is engine braking. No, it actually is FUEL EFFICIENT doing that. Above certain RPM, usually 1000 RPM, no load, no throttle input, the ECU will cut fuel injection into the engine. Therefore in the above downhill case, even at 3000 RPM, no fuel is being fed into the cylinders. This is also know as Decel Fuel Cut-Off. All electronic fuel injected engine has this feature since at least the 90s.

To cancel this feature, either use manual mode of press the throttle slightly. That way the ECU detects throttle input (3% instead of 0%) and cancel engine braking. For further explanation, browse to 1st Post, Page 1 in this thread, CVT Section.
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Thanks for the information. Much appreciated. Interesting. I didn't experience this engine braking with the Nissan Sylphy though.
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post Aug 22 2013, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 22 2013, 08:05 AM)
still got.
It is the characteristic of the CVT to apply engine braking automatically when going downhill. To save fuel or to save live during downhill from Genting, that's your choice.
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Yes, good that you brought up about the engine braking saving lives in the event of brake failure. Sad to read about the crash which involved a bus at Genting Highlands which left 37 people dead. Saving fuel with engine braking is indeed a revelation for me, as my impression is when rpm shoots up high, more fuel will be used up. Guess the opposite is true with this engine braking.

CHeers.
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post Aug 27 2013, 10:00 PM

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Just wanted to check with you guys who own the Preve Turbo. There is some rattling noise "nyek nyek" noise sometimes from the back seat. I have a strong feeling that the sound is coming from the upper slot where the rear seat belts go into. Some mechanism inside it.

Do you happen to have this "nyek nyek" sound coming from the rear seat especially when going through a bump or some uneven road? On straight highways no issues.

Any information would be appreciated.
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post Aug 29 2013, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Aug 29 2013, 05:09 PM)
Hi
Void warranty I refer to warranty for car, is not relevant is it? Thought if change speaker or wat involve cut wyre and void warranty from proton for car.
Regarding the noise, dunno where I read bout noise from turbo engine. Is it true?
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Void warranty. It depends on which part of the vehicle you are talking about. If you want to claim warranty, it must be something is faulty. The engine, the automatic gear transmission, the power window, the HU unit cannot play CD, etc. If you change the speakers of the vehicle, if it's not related to any parts that have been modified then you can claim warranty for that part. You should be able to claim for the engine or auto gear transmission if it's faulty, but if it's your HU or CD player, they may not honor warranty as the wiring to the new speakers have been changed. My advice is it is best that you don't do any modifications within the warranty period to avoid any unnecessary hassle.

As to noise of the Turbo engine, I don't think there will be any difference between the low-spec'ed Preve and the Preve Turbo in terms of engine noise in normal driving conditions. The Turbo engine is still quiet if you don't step hard on the pedal or attempt any hard acceleration. Personally I recommend the Preve Turbo even though it may be noisier in hard acceleration. It depends on how important the extra power of the Turbo engine is to you. To be, the Preve Turbo offers much more over the low-spec'ed Preve, not only in Turbo engine but other features as well such as GPS unit, paddle shifters manual transmission, cruise control etc. The extra power on tap in the Preve Turbo is also useful for some exhilarating drive. Whenever you want the extra power to overtake a vehicle or need the speed, the Turbo engine will provide you that. The low-spec-ed Preve will feel underpowered, as the 0-100km/h acceleration is above 12.0s. But still, it is cheaper by RM10k so it is still quite a good buy for those who don't want the extra features and speed of the Preve Turbo.

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post Aug 29 2013, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Aug 27 2013, 11:14 PM)
i guess is the metal below the rear speaker dashboard...
there have the joint between metal and car body which tighten with screws only...
guess it loose and causing the sound... so far for mine, no issues for any funny sound...
only my meter will show "front hood opened" sometimes when going thru the uneven road surface...
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Thanks for the response. Somehow the noise has disappeared after a while. It has been 2 days and the noise is not there anymore. Hopefully it's gone for good. Fingers crossed.

Without any rattling noise in the cabin, the Preve Turbo is surely one nice machine to drive around town. One solid car with powerful acceleration.
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post Sep 2 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(Manlet @ Sep 2 2013, 08:03 AM)
guys anyone know if our car front windscreen comes with tint? and whats the spec for it

i know side is using some security tint and rear windscreen tint seems fine

but the front windscreen doest seems tinted cause when i drive under sun its burning hot

left my car under sun for a while and its like oven when i got in
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My Proton salesperson does not have a clue on the tint that is used on Proton. The car does come with tint on all windscreen front, sides and back. It is just that the tint is not very high in quality. The side windscreens although tinted, the sun penetrates through it and is burning hot too. Just use one of those portable sun-shades that you can buy off supermarket shelves and stick it on the side windscreen for added sun-block.
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post Sep 3 2013, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 3 2013, 08:04 AM)
Does preve still got problem with the radio reception? Can it be solve?
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I don't have problems with radio reception. Clear as crystal. I am usually on Lite FM most of the time.
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post Sep 3 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Sep 3 2013, 01:20 PM)
hows the CFE fuel consumption?
thats only my concern so far.

lets say 70% city drive
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City drive surely bad. However it depends on what car are you comparing the Preve Turbo with. If Myvi, Viva, Vios etc. then the Preve Turbo's FC will be bad. If compared to Sylphy, Civic and Altis, the fuel consumption of the Preve Turbo will be slightly better. To roughly determine the FC performance of the car, it's relatively simple. Just look at the kerb weight of the car and compare it to other cars. If it is heavy, the FC will usually be high. If light, FC will be low, as a common guideline.

Most cars will usually register fair to good FC in the highways, 70km/h to 100km/h constant speed. In city drive, especially in traffic jams from standstill 0 to 20km/h range, FC will be very bad. The bigger heavier cars will usually register bad FC in these situations, and the Preve Turbo is no exception.
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post Sep 4 2013, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(preveverp @ Sep 4 2013, 01:02 AM)
Is it just mine. . or is the Preve's exhaust note a little slightly bassy than other car's normal stock exhaust?

And it gets very bassy when full throttle? Whole car seems to vibrate...

This is the Executive model
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Not too sure Executive model is low spec or high-spec(Turbo), but if it is the Preve Turbo, I suppose the "bassy" sound does not come from the exhaust but the engine itself. The Turbo engine growls really loud when you full throttle the car. The car vibrates just a little, not too much. It's just the bassy low-frequency growl of the (Turbo) engine when you floor the pedal.

Sometimes, I hear some sound which is akin of loose screws or metal grinding against each other when I floor the pedal. Not always though.

I don't do any hard acceleration these days and mostly practice good driving habits to promote fuel economy after the recent price hike.
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I didn't know the Preve Turbo comes with side airbags. And the side airbags are actually hidden in the side front seats. Nice. That explains some funny-looking wiring at the bottom of the front seats. Must be the side air-bag wiring that connects to the front seats from the bottom.

Too bad the Preve Turbo comes with fabric seats. If it comes with leather seats it would be a whole lot better. The Preve Turbo is surely one nice, solid and safe car to drive around.

Personally if I would think it is not so much about warranty for the air-bags being void if one were to install leather seats in the Preve Turbo, but whether the air-bags were to deploy properly as intended. Of course, one were to hope that they won't see any air-bags in the car being activated at all, if given a choice!
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Sep 10 2013, 03:49 PM)
I've just obtained a sms from Yes Proton. I tried login and password in with the details provided on yes.my website, but it says my login details does not work.

I saw the info on the 1st page about the yes 4g, and I went directly to the login page, which was the same page I tried before.

How do I make this thing work?
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You bought the Preve Turbo, or Suprima S?

The login password is case sensitive. You need to key in the password in the correct small and capital letters as shown. If still cannot work, then you can try contacting your SA to see if he can help you with it.

MY SA printed out a sheet of paper in A4 from YES website showing the login and password for me. No problems logging in to the wifi.


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post Sep 11 2013, 07:47 AM

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Yes, the Preve Turbo truly represents value for money at RM69k. If it comes with soft leather seats and a less noisier Turbo engine/better soundproofing at critical areas, to me it is unbeatable in its class up to RM100k sedan category. Anyway for the price, there is not much you can complain. Certainly value for money.

I have owned the Nissan Sylphy 2.0(RM115k+) for nearly 6 years(just sold off recently) and a Ford Focus Titanium on the way. The Preve Turbo's ride and handling are better than the Nissan Sylphy - the vehicle is more firm and stable, and the steering isn't as light as the Sylphy. Performance on the highways and especially taking sharp corners, the Preve Turbo is more stable. The areas where the Preve Turbo lost to the Nissan Sylphy is in comfort levels - the latter is much quieter(mainly quiet engine) in all driving conditions and more comfortable in having thick and plush leather seats. Comfort-wise the Nissan is king, but in areas of driving dynamics, the Preve Turbo has the advantage. In the end it depends on what the person is looking for in a vehicle.

I've just had a short test driving session of the Ford Focus, and in my mind as good as the driving dynamics of the Preve Turbo gets, the steering feel and handling of the Ford Focus are a notch higher. More precise steering feedback and firmer but still comfortable suspension setup of the Focus.

Bottomline, in my mind the Preve Turbo competes very well with vehicles up to RM100k in areas of handling and driving dynamics. It usually loses out slightly in areas of refinement in the (slightly) noisier Turbo engine and less comfortable fabric seats. However, it gives much more in areas of performance, features and safety. Really solid car. When you shut the doors you just feel a solid thud and firmness to the vehicle. You try closing the doors of an Almera or Vios. You feel a certain lightness, a feel of vulnerability(sorry for the lack of better term). The heavier weight of the car contributes to higher fuel consumption, but that is what that is expected from "better" cars. In summary, the strengths outweight the weaknesses.

I would definitely take the Preve Turbo over the bread and butter models in the similar (or higher) price range if FC is not an issue - Toyota Vios, Honda City etc. I am not a fan of Korean cars, and to me, the Preve Turbo represents much greater value than the Kia Cerato too.
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Before I forget, I mentioned earlier I would take the Preve Turbo over the Toyota Vios or Honda City. In reality, the Preve Turbo should be compared to vehicles in the same class - Honda Civic, Toyota Altis and Nissan Sylphy. Sure, the Preve Turbo may lose out in certain areas, mainly in refinement, but when you look at the price, you will realise the value you are getting with the Proton.
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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Sep 11 2013, 07:28 PM)
i'm thinking to buy my first car. i have set my mind the price should be around 60k+. After some readings, i have listed 3 cars: Preve CFE, Mitsubishi Attrage and Nissan Almera.

CC: 1.6 vs 1.2 vs 1.5
Segment: C vs B vs B
Engine: Proton vs Mitsubishi vs Nissan

Let put aside FC, second value, spec, safety and design of the cars. I'm not rich, so i want to use my first car as long as i can like 15 years to 20 years if possible. Maintenance cost is also my main concern here, not sure which one is better. Is 1.2 good enough for Sedan car? i have read about Ford 1.0 ecoboost engine and some reviewers claims that this engine is powerful than current 1.6 engine Ford has. Not sure about 1.2 cc with Mitsubishi engine. i may have to travel outside of city frequently, so the car i will buy is not only for city drive. Ford, Toyota and Honda are above my budget, so i will not consider that cars.

To summarize, i need a car with:
1. long term use  thumbup.gif
2. low/good/easy maintenance  rclxms.gif

Hope you can advise/assist me on this, please.
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Hi there, I am sure you will test drive all the options. For your intention on using your car up to 15 years or beyond. Any car that is above 10 years old will start to exhibit problems which require high maintenance. If possible, try not to keep your car above 10 years old. Maybe up to 15 years old if you are really tied up. WHen your salary increase with time, I am sure you will have the capacity to upgrade to better cars that are problem-free.

For city drive with a lot of traffic jams, small and lighter cars will have the advantage in low fuel consumption. However, these smaller cc vehicles such as 1.2-litre will not be so comfortable or stable as the bigger capacity vehicles in highway cruising. I don't know about Mitsubishi Attrage but you can consider Preve Turbo or Nissan Almera. Both very different vehicles. Preve Turbo for speed, power, handling and driving dynamics, Almera for slightly comfortable ride. Two of my colleagues drive the Almera.

Maintenance-wise both Preve Turbo and Almera are not really costly. The Preve Turbo's maintenance schedule is 10,000km interval using full-synthetic oil whereas the Almera's service interval is based on 5,000km I believe, using mineral oil. I presume owners of the ALmera can opt for 10,000km service. The fuel consumption of the Almera may be better than the Preve Turbo due to the lighter weight, but difference may not be that great.

I am sure you will know what to do when you test drive all your options, or even when you feel the cars in the showroom and try shutting the doors of both vehicles. If you want a safe car(heavy body) with powerful acceleration, I am sure you will not take the ALmera when you compare it with the Preve Turbo. Before I test-drive the Preve Turbo, I tested the Almera. At that time, my benchmark is Nissan Sylphy. When I stepped on the accelerator, the car felt lethargic and didn't seem to want to move forward. To me, the power is lacking. WHen I tested the Preve TUrbo, one small step on the accelerator and the car just lunges forward like a beast. The Preve Turbo is a much powerful car than the Almera.

But if you prefer a quieter drive with more comfortable suspension and lighter steering feel, then the Almera may suit you. Just pick the one that suits your driving style. See which car you enjoy driving more. Personally I think there is very little between the two in maintenance cost or even FC(although ALmera should register lower fuel consumption).

You may consider the Myvi 1.5 too which is about RM57k if I'm not mistaken.

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