What's tasty, easy, and has lots of health benefits? Yoghurt!

"Have you noticed that the yoghurt section of most grocery stores has practically taken over the dairy aisle? It’s getting harder to find more traditional dairy foods, such as cottage cheese and sour cream, amid the sea of yoghurt options. But it only makes sense that a food with as many health benefits as yoghurt be given prime real estate in the supermarket.
And just what are the health benefits of yoghurt?
First off, your body needs to have a healthy amount of ''good'' bacteria in the digestive tract, and many yoghurts are made using active, good bacteria. One of the words you’ll be hearing more of in relation to yoghurt is ''probiotics.'' Probiotic, which literally means ''for life,'' refers to living organisms that can result in a health benefit when eaten in adequate amounts.
Some benefit:-
1) Yoghurt is good for the bones
2) Yoghurt packs as much protein as meat
3) Yoghurt curbs your hunger
4) Yoghurt may help you lose weight
5) Yoghurt may help lower blood pressure
6) Yoghurt is good for digestion
7) Yoghurt is packed with vitamins
8) Yoghurt helps fight bad breath
9) Yoghurt boosts the immune system"

Your opinion in this discussion forum would be good.... (No selling in this discussion forum as I have a warning from LYN)
What do you think about home made yoghurt?
Did you home made your own yoghurt?

This post has been edited by jtlim98: Apr 1 2013, 01:50 PM

The common yoghurt we get off the shelf can be bad.

Hope this gives you some new insight into gut microflora:

http://renegade.toxicbellybugfix.com/?sid=mar16emailgsp

Actually, it's not the yogurt but the probiotics that you ingest and repopulate your good gut bacteria which in-turn helps your body to absorb more nutrients for healthier living.

I'm careful with storebought yogurt or even yogurt mix like Biohealth. They still tend to have too much sugar in them that the sugar makes fungi grow faster than probiotics so whatever benefit that you could get from storebought yogurt is already negated by the sugar content in them.

Easier to swallow probiotic tablets and get better effects. Mind you, I do make my own yogurt although the culture is from an organic source from an Australian yogurt brand (Mundella). Less sweet and less sour at the same time.

And probiotics can't survive the hostile stomach acid. There has to be some form of protection, either enteric coated or some other proprietary methods.

Or just go back to eating traditional fermented foods like tempeh, kasam, etc. It worked for our ancestors for thousands of years. Should still work today.

Gotta take a wide variety & large amounts of organic yoghurt, tempeh, kefir, etc. including prebiotics.

Consuming a good quality probiotic supplement is much easier, and arguably more effective.

Actually, your body will be immune after 3 months, be it supplements or fermented foods.

Then you find that you'd have to follow the rule that you mention : a wide variety of probiotic strains and different manufacturers.

Hmm, where did you get this idea from. Interested to know more. Do share a name or link if available.

It was between me and my coach. She didn't tell me where she got it from but we were troubleshooting why I fell sick often after 3 months of using the same brand. So we narrowed it down to the supplements manufacturing (i.e. different factories means different quality or same factory like some Kordel and Natural Factors supplements) and the probiotic strain.

We started experimenting back in 2010 and I've been doing it ever since. It's spot-on so far and when I follow the rotation of probiotics and supplements, I don't fall sick at all. A bit of sniffle but that's it.

The real test of probiotics was when I took an 18 strain version. One tablet and within 2 hours, all my mouth ulcers went away. Literally. And my dandruff subsided.

Plus the fact that I like to keep my diet pretty clean so that I don't get constipated. THe moment my sugar content goes up, I can feel something different i.e. stool is harder or smellier. This is the main reason I make my own yogurt in the long run. I do still take probiotic supplements but it's a pain trying to find different types especially the 18 strain versions.

This post has been edited by myremi: Apr 2 2013, 07:32 AM

There is a reference book that I refer to although I borrowed my coach's one. It's not available in Malaysia so would have to order online. The topic is "The Fungal Link."

http://knowthecause.com/
http://www.knowthecause.com/index.php/know-the-cause-page


The main reason I take probiotics is to manage my fungal infection. I have that and I can really really feel it when it's a bad time i.e. too much fungal growth. But it's not only probiotics that I take. The food I choose to eat are also selective such that :
-it doesn't flare up my fungi infection in my gut which will in turn flare up everything else (dandruff, ulcers)
-it helps to promote probiotic population in my gut

I used to have IBS syndrome but not anymore. It only comes back when i take antibiotics.

Thanks to sharing Yoghurt benefits

Thanks for sharing....

Thanks for sharing too....

Mercola's formulation looks good if you wanna give it a try. http://probiotics.mercola.com/probiotics.html
I'm still in search of something similar with more value for money. By the way his contract manufacturer is UAS Labs.

These days I find that regular direct sunlight exposure to as much skin surface as possible has been very effective at keeping the flu at bay. I should say sleeping late (even when you compensate the hours), stress levels, and refined sugar also pose a significant link to immunity levels.



I wonder if this article can give you some additional info:
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_fo...youre_not_doing

Probiotics : Yeah, agree with you about the money bit. Probiotics are on the higher end of the scale when it comes to supplements, almost the same as CoQ10 and Grapeseed tablets. I'm currently taking Advance Probiotic Multiblend by Bio-Life. PRICEY. Cheapest pharmacy I've seen so far is AA Pharmacy in KL. They usually give a discount from the retail price about 10% but not sure if they can give more if you're a regular. I'm in Kuching so I make do with whatever is available at the pharmacies locally although I get about 20-40% discount with the pharmacy that I go to.


The problem with ordering supplements from overseas is that there is always that danger that it will get stopped at customs. So I haven't ordered any so far that is not within Malaysia. Next one I'm planning to try in another 2 months is Oohira's Probiotic. Seems good and the doctor that discovered it found it in Sabah years ago.

Sleeping Late : Sleep at 10 pm and wake up at 6 am. I'm following the circadian cycle. Plus, black out room. As dark as I can get it. Even a bit of street light from the window will keep me awake. No light, no cortisol formation until 6 am which is about the time the sun starts rising and the sky is getting brighter. A change to even dark blue sky will wake me up. I boarded up the bedroom windows that cannot be covered by curtains.

Stress Level : I journal daily. I have a gratitude journal following a certain structure on what am I grateful for, including the people that have helped me and etc. I also follow Byron Katie's The Work because she has an interesting way of looking at the world i.e. my views and experiences shaped my opinions and that it's ok not to believe my thoughts all the time to avoid depression. http://www.thework.com . Changed my life.

Sunlight : True but better still is earthing. http://www.earthing.com . I don't buy their products but their book is a good read. I have a homemade earthing plate that is underneath my work table and it's connected to the earth of the power socket.

Weekly, I goto the beach to get my hourly dosage of minerals from the seawater and sunlight. The minerals helped to counteract the pain from DOMS. I get DOMS so my body gets stiff from the hours at the gym but not the pains or aches. So I get stiff muscles and joints but no pain. A red fire ant can bite me and all I feel is a mosquitoe bite, if any at all. Haven't been bitten by bees or wasps yet so I dunno if the feeling will be less so I can only assume it.

At the beach, I also workout slowly by stacking stones. http://badcameragreatpicture.blogspot.com/...g-at-damai.html I haven't posted up all the rock stacks I've done. Each stone is roughly 5-10 kg even though it's small, it's very very dense. I currently have a spot where the stones are still there every week and it's always 5 stones standing. The other 6-8 stones get pushed by the waves but it's still standing. Also there is this growth of beach vines that is slowly progressing towards that stack of stones. An energy source, maybe? I pour water over the stones and it gives a different vibe each time.

Sugar : Yes, agree on that part. I cut out of a lot of refined sugar but even fruit sugars will give me problems. So I also watch my fruit intakes, especially since tropical fruits has a lot of sugar inside them.

Wheat : This is given me problems so cutting this out too. Helps with moods and my skin too. Best part was when an auntie was shock that I wasn't the school girl that she thought I was. Inching closer to 40 soon. >.>

Processed Food : Also giving me problems. I've gone on such a clean diet that even drinking Milo makes my body more tense than drinking a cup of tea.

Exercise : Addicted to it at the moment. I do a lot of stretching and self-massage (via ball and foam roller rolling my whole body). Feeling stronger than when I was in my teens. Currently in love with punching the speedball. Trying to punch it faster.

Feel healthy is addictive.

so far for me best yougurt is the one sold at Each A cup

the yogurt drink rm3.50

really good for tummy, can remove air and next day berak very smooth

but it is sweet

My replies in blue and bolded.

This post has been edited by DT1: Apr 3 2013, 02:38 PM

If you can berak very smooth, then ok already. Then see what happens after 3 months of regularly eating it. Good berak is 12 inches of stool daily (can be one time, can be multiple times), not too smelly that the smell lingers for hours and floating.

Mine in Green!

Probiotics : Yeah, agree with you about the money bit. Probiotics are on the higher end of the scale when it comes to supplements, almost the same as CoQ10 and Grapeseed tablets. I'm currently taking Advance Probiotic Multiblend by Bio-Life. PRICEY. Cheapest pharmacy I've seen so far is AA Pharmacy in KL. They usually give a discount from the retail price about 10% but not sure if they can give more if you're a regular. I'm in Kuching so I make do with whatever is available at the pharmacies locally although I get about 20-40% discount with the pharmacy that I go to.
The problem with ordering supplements from overseas is that there is always that danger that it will get stopped at customs. So I haven't ordered any so far that is not within Malaysia. Next one I'm planning to try in another 2 months is Oohira's Probiotic. Seems good and the doctor that discovered it found it in Sabah years ago.

I was just thinking about what you've said about the body being immune to the same vitamin supp after a few months. I guess it's somehow related to their quality, and also the age-old synthetic vitamins VS whole food vitamins debate. From the whole foods point of view, synthetic vitamins are not only useless, they're also detrimental in the long run. While synthetic vitamins do have their place, they should be rightfully used to treat clearly identified deficiencies, which then turns it into therapeutic use under the guidance of a qualified professional.

For overall health support, i.e. in the case of Multivitamins, I believe we would benefit much more from whole foods vitamins and green powders instead. Checkout these products: Ultra Preventive X by Douglas Labs, Vitaminal Green by Healthforce, Green Vibrance by Vibrant Health, and the multivitamin range from Rainbow Light Nutritional Systems.

I don't take any green powders because it's processed. Trying to stick to the rule that if the food wasn't around 10,000 years ago, don't eat it. I sacrifice this rule when it comes to nutritional supplements because food today is not rich with nutrients. Organic, free-range and traditional farm stuff are better but can be pricey. But double the cost for 40x nutrients content, it is a steal.

My reference was a Paul Check book called "How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy." There are references in there to various books and articles.


Sleeping Late : Sleep at 10 pm and wake up at 6 am. I'm following the circadian cycle. Plus, black out room. As dark as I can get it. Even a bit of street light from the window will keep me awake. No light, no cortisol formation until 6 am which is about the time the sun starts rising and the sky is getting brighter. A change to even dark blue sky will wake me up. I boarded up the bedroom windows that cannot be covered by curtains.

That's great. Yes, and no light is also important for melatonin production which is crucial to health as well, in addition to allowing you to sleep of course. Next thing you can try is EMF home protection. I'm not sure how effective they are or if they're some hocus pocus but it does make sense, and you should be able to get a much better quality sleep as well.

Bit tough with aircon being the highest EMF generator. I just earth myself regularly and that works well. Small dose is my earthing plate at work. At home, it's barefoot in the garden with sunlight so early morning or late evening with palms facing the sun. Feet gets tingly.

Stress Level : I journal daily. I have a gratitude journal following a certain structure on what am I grateful for, including the people that have helped me and etc. I also follow Byron Katie's The Work because she has an interesting way of looking at the world i.e. my views and experiences shaped my opinions and that it's ok not to believe my thoughts all the time to avoid depression. http://www.thework.com . Changed my life.

You can give meditation a try as well. It's supposedly an ancient technique that allows people to reach God and be enlightened, and is present in almost all religious practice. Science has now caught up to some of its benefits, firstly with stress reduction, then to happiness levels and hormones, and now neuroplasticity and brain reconditioning. It's a very potent and effective tool I would say.


I do some medication but not so routine. Often when I'm exercising, stretching or at the beach. Still working at my breathing and being still. Very hard to be still so that tells you how much garbage is in my mind to work through. Then again, anything good is never quick and easy.

Sunlight : True but better still is earthing. http://www.earthing.com . I don't buy their products but their book is a good read. I have a homemade earthing plate that is underneath my work table and it's connected to the earth of the power socket.

I got into regular sunlight due to the Vitamin D production and its link to immune health and a variety of other health disorders. A collective 1 hour over the week with full sun exposure (no clouds) on at least 1/3 of the body should alittle bit more than adequate.




Weekly, I goto the beach to get my hourly dosage of minerals from the seawater and sunlight. The minerals helped to counteract the pain from DOMS. I get DOMS so my body gets stiff from the hours at the gym but not the pains or aches. So I get stiff muscles and joints but no pain. A red fire ant can bite me and all I feel is a mosquitoe bite, if any at all. Haven't been bitten by bees or wasps yet so I dunno if the feeling will be less so I can only assume it.

Oh I didn't know about the minerals from the sea part and how they help with pain and irritation. Sure it's not the sea salt counteracting the irritation? Well I guess if it helps you by all means! The closest beach we have here in KL is Port Dickson and that's oil polluted waters.

Try going for a swim, around 5+ to 6+ in the morning while it's still dark. Swim slowly and steadily while fully immersed under water. Then dry yourself and go for a meditation session on the beach and come out of it with the sunrise. Maybe include a sprint on the beach plus some stretching after you're done. Combined together it's the greatest feeling ever!


Beach is still 20-30 min drive for me and that's at breakneck speed. Seasalt are the minerals i.e. ions to soak up into the body. It's helping with the various inflammation that I have. Swimming in the morning is tough because it's a long drive and there are sharks in those waters. Also, jellyfish season until May. The rock stacking is also a great activity. Both help me with the buildup of heatiness I get from exercising hard.

Since getting tot he beach is tough in KL, see if there is a nearby national park with clean running water. That's the next best thing : clean running water.


At the beach, I also workout slowly by stacking stones. http://badcameragreatpicture.blogspot.com/...g-at-damai.html I haven't posted up all the rock stacks I've done. Each stone is roughly 5-10 kg even though it's small, it's very very dense. I currently have a spot where the stones are still there every week and it's always 5 stones standing. The other 6-8 stones get pushed by the waves but it's still standing. Also there is this growth of beach vines that is slowly progressing towards that stack of stones. An energy source, maybe? I pour water over the stones and it gives a different vibe each time.

Sugar : Yes, agree on that part. I cut out of a lot of refined sugar but even fruit sugars will give me problems. So I also watch my fruit intakes, especially since tropical fruits has a lot of sugar inside them.

Based on the works of Dr. Lustig total fructose amounts should be limited to less than 50g per day. That means fruits should be limited to small amounts, and more focus given to vegetables and legumes.

I followed Dr. Mercola's rule : No fruits 2 hours post workout. But the 50g daily limit sounds about right although 50g is tiny. I don't take too much legumes but depends. Trying to balance out the uric acid. Not that I have gout but just for balance.

Wheat : This is given me problems so cutting this out too. Helps with moods and my skin too. Best part was when an auntie was shock that I wasn't the school girl that she thought I was. Inching closer to 40 soon. >.>

Yeah I've been reducing wheat too. Kinda difficult to remove it entirely as it's present in a lot of food. Always strikes me: Oh that Aglio Olio looks damn good, but no, I'm not gonna take it. lol.

I'm looking for a vegetable spiral cutter to try and get some pasta like veggie from carrots, cucumber,etc. To try out to be a raw food foodie. See if that satisfies the pasta cravings.

I still think commercial yogurt is not good....and very sweet and less probiotic... prefer home made yogurt...