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TSFLu_Shots
post Apr 1 2013, 11:00 AM, updated 13y ago

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First off I am a Noob in Dota. I have only been playing it for a couple a months on and off. But even so I have only managed to play a handful of heroes and only been good at 2-3 heroes at that (i.e. highest kills for a carry/gank hero or clears towers within minutes). even when i watch the Navi vs iG game it seems to me they kept playing the same heroes in all the games.

so i am wondering how many heroes you guys know to play absolutely well with? is it even realistic to master all heroes within Dota?



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post Apr 1 2013, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(FLu_Shots @ Apr 1 2013, 11:00 AM)
First off I am a Noob in Dota. I have only been playing it for a couple a months on and off. But even so I have only managed to play a handful of heroes and only been good at 2-3 heroes at that (i.e. highest kills for a carry/gank hero or clears towers within minutes). even when i watch the Navi vs iG game it seems to me they kept playing the same heroes in all the games.

so i am wondering how many heroes you guys know to play absolutely well with? is it even realistic to master all heroes within Dota?
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post Apr 1 2013, 11:06 AM

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lol... its only when u play with a permanent team competitively then u use the same heroes and strategy.. but they normally have more than one strategy... biggrin.gif

You need alot more training as 2/3months old is still very young dota player..

i've played dota since 5.84c, which was 2002 till today.. about 10 years.. and i can play all heroes and i'm all rounder.. but prefer carry/tank

so choose the type of heroes u like and master all of them...
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post Apr 1 2013, 11:09 AM

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just keep playing random la..am not pro though.. but randomly pick at least i know to play all hero. But its true, u will master a few heroes only..the one that really pro, nice farm, nice skill. Play long enough, master all heroes. But usually with the same characteristic...my housemate plays around 8-9 years already..master only at hard carry..support and initiator failed.
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post Apr 1 2013, 11:09 AM

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Learn to use all, but master a few. At very least you'll know all the heroes spells/skills that can be use as advantage to you or disadvantage to your opponents.


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post Apr 1 2013, 12:44 PM

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Be good at your self mechanic,
-Map awareness
-Efficiency of getting last hits/denies ( earning gold )
-Maximising whats given, eg. Pulling,Double Pulling
-Doing whats right at certain situation, knowing how to manipulate the game
-Be able to come out with new meta, coming out with skills/ganks/item builds that people will not expect, screw their mindset
-Timing for everything, camp spawn,block camp,pulling,roshan spawn
-More ! Everything !
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post Apr 1 2013, 02:44 PM

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Try looking at what roles suits you and go that way.

I prefer being a carry last time but changed to a semi-carry nowadays due to the supporters you will get from pub games is minimum and nearly all hard-carries are nerfed.
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post Apr 1 2013, 03:52 PM

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so basics aside like last hitting, creep block etc and lets say you are forming a team for (lets be modest) malaysian champ... USD50k on the line (again... lets say only). you obviously want to play only the few heroes that you are absolutely confident in or know you are good at using. your captain ask you "dude which heroes can you play?" i am sure you will answer "this and that hero, total up XX number of hero give me any day I trash the opponent for you". So what is that XX number for you?
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post Apr 2 2013, 11:12 AM

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If you are playing pub game, try to train up at least 1 hero from each type of hero. Then see what are the heroes chosen by your teammate, then choose a hero that suit the situation.
For example, if your team already have 2 carry and 2 supporter, you would probably choose a tanker.
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post Apr 3 2013, 04:29 PM

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me is just feeder
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post Apr 3 2013, 05:19 PM

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Play with only those you feel you can learn from. I cannot stress how important it is not to party with people who are lesser skilled than you, or propagate bad playing habits such as a lack of map awareness etc. Make it a point to add up players who you feel are good, and don't be afraid to solo queue, you learn quite a bit from playing with strangers.
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post Apr 10 2013, 02:36 PM

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For newbie or beginners players , here some of the advice I can give .

1.) Start of with 3 hero that you wish to master and practice it often .
2.) Must know the hero in terms of skills and role that you choose . ( You cant expect a support hero like wisp to kill , do you ? hmm.gif )
3.) Once you understand your roles , play it well . Eg. If you are a tanker , always go front . If you a supporter , always stick to your carry . Etc ...
4.) Have some map awareness and constant report . ( Even sometimes mistake report is ok but dont over do it as it will make your team have more alert )
5.) Do not feed .
6.) Help out in most of the ganks .
7.) Do not hesitate too long especially when you carry .
8.) Never purposely ks other people target especially carry target unless they cant make it .

Of course there is more I can give but you will learn more when you got experience .

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post Apr 12 2013, 12:09 PM

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play with ai, every hero at least twice.

so that you know what their skill, advantage, and disadvantage.


its useful when enemy pick any hero, you can predict what they can do at least.
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post Apr 19 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(am3rr @ Apr 1 2013, 11:03 AM)
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i dont think there's one that can master all heroes....

it's more like jack of all trades, master of few....

else if someone can master all heroes..champion will remain the same group every year d...
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post Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Mech Warrior 6 @ Apr 19 2013, 04:22 PM)
i dont think there's one that can master all heroes....

it's more like jack of all trades, master of few....

else if someone can master all heroes..champion will remain the same group every year d...
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considering what he ask, does it even possible to master all heroes, the answer is yes. is there someone that already master all hero, the answer is no.
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post Apr 19 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(am3rr @ Apr 19 2013, 04:24 PM)
considering what he ask, does it even possible to master all heroes, the answer is yes. is there someone that already master all hero, the answer is no.
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hahaa..nice one! u got me right there.
i agree with your statement above!
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post Apr 28 2013, 05:11 AM

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QUOTE(FLu_Shots @ Apr 1 2013, 12:00 PM)
First off I am a Noob in Dota. I have only been playing it for a couple a months on and off. But even so I have only managed to play a handful of heroes and only been good at 2-3 heroes at that (i.e. highest kills for a carry/gank hero or clears towers within minutes). even when i watch the Navi vs iG game it seems to me they kept playing the same heroes in all the games.

so i am wondering how many heroes you guys know to play absolutely well with? is it even realistic to master all heroes within Dota?
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I could play any heroes in the chart. Based on my 10 years of experience, a pro or noob does not defined by kill death assist ratio or his/her gold per min farming.

A pro carry/support usually :

1. Have good map awareness. Know who and which lanes are missing.
2. Could predict what will happen and where will the fight be. This is important for both carry and support. A carry do need to farm but a chance to kill should never be neglected.
3. Have basic/advanced knowledge of DOTA mechanisme such as creep/tower aggro, neutral stacking, rune respawn, fog of war, place of wards.
4. Know when to kill and retreat.
5. Last but not least, good last hitting and deny. The deny part is what most beginners ignore at first and end up ignore forever.


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post Apr 29 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(omgimahero @ Apr 1 2013, 11:06 AM)
lol... its only when u play with a permanent team competitively then u use the same heroes and strategy.. but they normally have more than one strategy... biggrin.gif

You need alot more training as 2/3months old is still very young dota player..

i've played dota since 5.84c, which was 2002 till today.. about 10 years.. and i can play all heroes and i'm all rounder.. but prefer carry/tank

so choose the type of heroes u like and master all of them...
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LOL 5.84c, omg some1 from the same era tongue.gif

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post Apr 29 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Apr 29 2013, 04:41 PM)
LOL 5.84c, omg some1 from the same era tongue.gif
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yeah bro, it was in dec 2001 when i discovered dota with my cousin... we were 11 lol... blush.gif

edit: we did play frozen throne, but we found out about dota 4.xx in mid 2001... it was like hero seige tongue.gif

then in december 2001 only they released 5.84c which is the same concept most moba games now use. the 5v5 map... biggrin.gif


This post has been edited by omgimahero: Apr 29 2013, 05:35 PM
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post May 3 2013, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Apr 29 2013, 04:41 PM)
LOL 5.84c, omg some1 from the same era tongue.gif
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Oh well..

A old player ~

I've actually played 5.84b but 5.84c release soon after.

Dota all the way since then.

8 years and still counting.

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