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STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V129, All time high!
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Apr 19 2013, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Apr 19 2013, 01:36 PM) coming out from Jail soon this counter... but no one mention here... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:06 PM
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Apr 19 2013, 02:09 PM
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Oolala ... one of my favourite current song! Nice!
That tipsy you just give, let's see if it can break 40 sen. |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:11 PM
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Apr 19 2013, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 19 2013, 09:48 AM) Insider and stock price manipulation is always there, it depends if you are smart enough to avoid it or follow the herd and get trapped. Just because you lost lots of money, why should we stay clear of the stock market? No insider information also can earn money, by applying good fundamental analysis. Punting is another story. How much have you made so far? Not asking for the exact amount.... is it by the tens of thousands or by the hundreds of thousands? |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 19 2013, 02:12 PM) How much have you made so far? Not asking for the exact amount.... is it by the tens of thousands or by the hundreds of thousands? Well I have not lost money in my overall holdings, since i started investing if that is what you are asking... investing is a long term process, if you treat it like gambling, you will lose your pants. This post has been edited by gark: Apr 19 2013, 02:21 PM |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 19 2013, 02:12 PM) How much have you made so far? Not asking for the exact amount.... is it by the tens of thousands or by the hundreds of thousands? This public forum friend. No need to ask so direct. Anyway, that's just a set of comments which I agree very much. One can make good money in the market by applying good fundamental analysis in the market. Me? My declaration is I tend to talk wind. Please hope you do not mind. |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 19 2013, 02:18 PM) Well I have not lost money in my overall holdings, since i started investing if that is what you are asking... investing is a long term process, if you treat it like gambling, you will lose your pants. Last year I was able to recover my previous year (also my 1st trading year) loss and started getting profit until now. My 1st year loss was a Camry. The turnaround story started after I decided to focus on fundamental play and just use 5% capital for gambling activities. Learn the lesson by sweating gaw gaw on that Camry. |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 19 2013, 02:21 PM) This public forum friend. No need to ask so direct. Anyway, that's just a set of comments which I agree very much. One can make good money in the market by applying good fundamental analysis in the market. Me? My declaration is I tend to talk wind. Please hope you do not mind. Fundamental analysis? I was at a bank cashing out my unit trusts that haven't been earning any money for almost a decade. There was one Malay guy beside me who cursed and swore. He too was cashing out and saying goodbye to unit trusts. Isn't it true that unit trust managers are supposed to be experts in the stock market? So how come we are not even earning the same amount as putting the money in the bank and doing nothing? |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Apr 19 2013, 02:29 PM) Last year I was able to recover my previous year (also my 1st trading year) loss and started getting profit until now. My 1st year loss was a Camry. The turnaround story started after I decided to focus on fundamental play and just use 5% capital for gambling activities. Learn the lesson by sweating gaw gaw on that Camry. i hope i have a large amount of capital to play too, easily to get huge profits but at the same time easily to get burnt too. |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 19 2013, 02:30 PM) I didn't ask for the exact amount... just a rough idea because I haven't yet seen anybody making money. Losing money, a lot. The guys making big money are those who have insider information and the big boys manipulating the market. The implication of that question is rather 'strange'. Fundamental analysis? I was at a bank cashing out my unit trusts that haven't been earning any money for almost a decade. There was one Malay guy beside me who cursed and swore. He too was cashing out and saying goodbye to unit trusts. Isn't it true that unit trust managers are supposed to be experts in the stock market? So how come we are not even earning the same amount as putting the money in the bank and doing nothing? Do consider the following. The question suggests that one needs to be 'qualified' to talk about stocks. When that happens, the suggestion is that one needs to be making money to talk stocks, which would mean that one needs to show proof before talking. Wouldn't it be strange when this happens? Is like saying 'Show us your portfolio before you talk'. I believe many here are making money. And in regards to Unit Trust investing. Well I think very lowly of Unit Trust managers and I would rather have my money rot in my biscuit tins (under my bed |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 19 2013, 02:30 PM) I didn't ask for the exact amount... just a rough idea because I haven't yet seen anybody making money. Losing money, a lot. The guys making big money are those who have insider information and the big boys manipulating the market. 1. Totally true. Friends around me who used to talk big big about stock market before I joining in 3 years ago are all losing money in their overall 10-15 years in the market. Fundamental analysis? I was at a bank cashing out my unit trusts that haven't been earning any money for almost a decade. There was one Malay guy beside me who cursed and swore. He too was cashing out and saying goodbye to unit trusts. Isn't it true that unit trust managers are supposed to be experts in the stock market? So how come we are not even earning the same amount as putting the money in the bank and doing nothing? 2. Unit Trust have many different funds to choose from. The managers are not to earn money for you, they are just to try their best to make profit from the criteria of the particular fund. For instance, a China Investment Fund. How to make profit if you buy that fund at the time when China market already overvalued? However, the IB consultants are suppose to help customer on this. But the reality in Malaysia is this, they don't. In fact, they usually do the opposite. When a fund seems peak, they show you the pretty historical graph and sell to you to make their commission earnings. This is very bad for the industry. And I'm very surprise to find this still happening until today even at the best bank Public Bank or Public Mutual. Public Bank shareholders should voice this out in the AGM. |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(ekompute @ Apr 19 2013, 02:30 PM) I didn't ask for the exact amount... just a rough idea because I haven't yet seen anybody making money. Losing money, a lot. The guys making big money are those who have insider information and the big boys manipulating the market. Investing has to be learned and understood. Fundamental analysis? I was at a bank cashing out my unit trusts that haven't been earning any money for almost a decade. There was one Malay guy beside me who cursed and swore. He too was cashing out and saying goodbye to unit trusts. Isn't it true that unit trust managers are supposed to be experts in the stock market? So how come we are not even earning the same amount as putting the money in the bank and doing nothing? Not easy as putting your money here and there type of thing, for a gain aka fast track to success . This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Apr 19 2013, 02:40 PM |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:40 PM
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Wah ppl speak so openly ...... Salute..... I only can said still at positive notes after 4 yrs in stocks exchanges....
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Apr 19 2013, 02:40 PM
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Apr 19 2013, 02:43 PM
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Apr 19 2013, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Apr 19 2013, 02:40 PM) can u push break to 40 ah? Mmm Tak. I see the stock developing nicely. And it's in my opinion that I think the stock should pull back first before testing 40 sen. I have put it in my watch list for now. |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:46 PM
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Apr 19 2013, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 19 2013, 02:40 PM) Wah ppl speak so openly ...... Salute..... I only can said still at positive notes after 4 yrs in stocks exchanges.... Talk is free and talk is also cheap! I actually don't believe in talking about our portfolio profit or losses because it's the internet. Most important is the discussion itself. A good discussion is worth all the gold. |
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