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 Monk Discussion V5 - 1.08 Live!, even better party king with 20%GL buff

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post Jul 17 2013, 12:00 PM

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Bell = Wave of Light skill... Became Monk's signature skill with huge boost in damage... surpass even 7SS in effectiveness..

High MP only give you more Magic Find, XP, Gold and more chance to get Demonic Essence. Everything else is the same.
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post Jul 17 2013, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(spongebob squarepant @ Jul 17 2013, 01:12 PM)
Hi fellow sifu, bellow is my monk profile:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Horus-6483/hero/4559328

Any suggestion for upgrade?

Thanks in advance.
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Try move towards Life Steal instead. Ditch both Shenlong. Sad right? I know. But if you wanna push DPS higher, you must. And then, craft!

QUOTE(waklu @ Jul 17 2013, 02:18 PM)
epic righttttt

but his enthusiasm when shouted each time he uses bell made me lol

always love passionate gamers

/gamersmance?
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post Jul 17 2013, 03:08 PM

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ksyuen you are in luck... God of Fortune (Deckard Cain) spotted you. laugh.gif

Seriously, if you gonna just add 1 person, add this "Electroclash#6469"
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post Jul 17 2013, 04:47 PM

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Peeps,

Transcript for DiabloFans finally up:

http://www.diablofans.com/news/1901-the-de...full-interview/

The summary was posted previous: http://www.diablofans.com/news/1897-diablo...evs-highlights/

Some interesting stuff I can read between the line... these are mostly speculation:

1) Moar Monter Power!
- Travis: Josh brings a lot of design experience and really good design instincts and I find a lot of the time it’s perspective. Sometimes I get really close to a problem, like we’re tuning Monster Power in particular or Inferno difficulty...
- Travis could have been talking about the existing Monster Power. It was in PTR since Nov last year. Travis joined the D3 team 12 months ago.. it's possible but we want MOAR!

2) The next patch is Itemization! No other patch before that. So, this could arrive sooner than you think.

3) Thorn will get buff. Monk's Breath of Heaven may scale based on HP. Good news!

4) Augmenting item is in the making. Perhaps increase stat, change stat or even add stat... ok, old news...

5) More use of Demonic Essence in the future.


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post Jul 17 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 17 2013, 03:30 PM)
siap!
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omai~ blush.gif i feel like a kid with their drawing got hung in the wall... brows.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jul 17 2013, 05:26 PM)
i'm more interested on the item's RNG system.
if an item have 6 properties, it must roll 6 properties;
and the affixes values must increase from something like 1-100 to 75-100.
i can trade it off with the drop rates. tired picking up loots now. zzz.. laugh.gif
cowithgun  bro.. tonight mau VoTa?? my hands damn itchy now.  laugh.gif
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u get 17 DE in 3 runs right? unbelievable!!! shakehead.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 05:57 PM

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LOL! i m not that lucky! lets do it again tonight... race u on DE!

Part 2 Interview with Josh and Wyatt at DIII

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/...t-2#more-368851

Speculation:

- More events, that require variety of skills:
"...maybe we can create a gameplay experience that has a lot of variety to it, so in a single ten minute play session, you’d have need for single target skills as well as AoE skills. So we’re looking into that."


- Item 2.0 is now known as Loot 2.0. Look like not as big as initial speculated. IAS, CC, CDMG still important. But focus more giving higher quality and less drops. sweat.gif With the name, it suggest that it is the "drop" that they focus more on, instead of more game changing item. But, Travis may answer differently if he is in the interview.. hehe


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post Jul 17 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(ksyuen @ Jul 17 2013, 05:55 PM)
Whats DE and whats VoTa?
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Demonic Essence - Need to craft the most powerful gear in game. http://www.diablowiki.net/Demonic_Essence
Vota = Vault of the Ancient in Act 2. Full of Elites. This is how I farm for DE in Vota: Kill 8 Elites, got 6 DE.


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post Jul 17 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 17 2013, 07:12 PM)
LCLY punya cow....marketing his own videos...wuahahahahaha
Buat satu for Act 4 la tongue.gif
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Agree... that video is awesome... blush.gif

Problem with Act4, too few Elites... tongue.gif

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post Jul 17 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(spongebob squarepant @ Jul 17 2013, 10:09 PM)
Thanks cowithgun. Any suggestion for weapon?
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If you like mobility, get LS skorn with Dex. If you like dual wield get weapon with socket, LS, crit damage and hopefully Dex. If you like to tank, get LS on both weapons. Otherwise stack up EHP for single LS. Most high DPS look for Echoing Fury.

QUOTE(ksyuen @ Jul 17 2013, 10:33 PM)
one question, where to set the MP level?
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Go to option, select Monster power.
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post Jul 18 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(ksyuen @ Jul 17 2013, 11:06 PM)
can show us your spec?
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Search for my profile and many others in first post:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2753635
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post Jul 18 2013, 10:25 AM

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i give credit to the site for it's genius name... diabro notworthy.gif

i used a stop watch in my phone, did 1 round VOTA each in MP7,8,9 and 10...

my result:

MP7: 6min 21sec
MP8: 6min 20sec
MP9: 8min 43sec
MP10: 8min 57sec

You know how VOTA is, sometimes more E, sometimes less E... so... result is not really accurate... dont meant to be accurate anyway...

Then, for the fun of it, I drop 10k DPS, rerun... "surprise"!!!

MP7: 6min 47sec
MP8: 6min 12sec
MP9: 7min 33sec
MP10: 9min 53sec

Conclusion to myself: MP8 is better than MP7 for me. 10k more DPS is negligible.
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post Jul 18 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 18 2013, 10:55 AM)
DE drop is rather random.
There were many times VOTA@MP10 gave me 0 DE.

If the whole idea is to farm DE, the easiest way is kill ghom @ MP10. laugh.gif
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LOL! really? may be i should benchmark 10min, see how many Ghom I can kill and how many DE... hmm.gif

[EDIT]

10 mins later... killed 9 Ghom, got 2 DE... but only tested in MP8... easy... but not much fun shakehead.gif

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post Jul 18 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ksyuen @ Jul 18 2013, 02:07 PM)
@cowithgun, how much is your HP?
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51k HP.

On another unrelated note, Druin, the Happy monk, clear MP10 100% (kill even white mobs) in just 7min 33 secs... notworthy.gif

I shall try this run too... will record a video... (oh no! more video!!!)
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post Jul 18 2013, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 18 2013, 04:50 PM)
my 2nd attempt at monk http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Electro...9/hero/29983850
still feel he sayur at the moment. Gonna try and rebalance him for a bit. Any suggestions?
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- 392k EHP is a little low even for dual wield. i reckon 500k EHP as min in MP10.

- 416 resist all is a bit on the low side. Most monk has more than 500, and lean towards 600 resist.

- Ring, Gloves and amulet (at least has armor) has crazy high DPS... but sadly, no resist...

If you can get something like 9xx WKL with LS (beeezzz!!!) your DPS could further improve by at least 10k... sweat.gif
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post Jul 18 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 18 2013, 05:05 PM)
Oh the weapons got from bro feedoe one.. lul. sure you guys think how come familiar. Yeah thinking maybe change to EF for dps boost but EF  sweat.gif ... I need to craft a new ammy to pump vit or AR and then get vile ward shoulders for armor. Now very cheap. 260dex/140vit only 1XXM so can consider that for eHP. Nats ring think i'll get a AS/CC with avg dmg and AR ones. Maybe trade with jsp'er. I have a lacuni that I so want to use. 146dex/60vit/9AS/5.5cc. This one mmg dps boost like crazy but sure sayur one if use

Btw, how much AS would you guys think is good. Thinking of getting a high CC/CD ring with avg damage and AR
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If you use EF, try to get at least 2.4 average IAS. With that attack speed, you get continuous attack even when mobs in fear running away...

ps: with ThunderClap that is...

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post Jul 18 2013, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 18 2013, 05:38 PM)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68252718&f=153 thinking this one quite nice but this glhgod like to overprice his item.
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Nice sword... but won't pay beeezzz for it... heck, i wont pay beezz for anything hehehe sorry...

In term of skill, try drop Guardian Path since the additional dodge will not help you in lava, poison, rd, etc... which is always bad for monks... Try use NDE or Beacon of YTar.

For BOH, use Blazing Wrath for additional 15% attacks, the additional healing does not scale very well with high HP.

With BoY passive, use Serenity Ascension rune. 4 seconds of invulnerability, cool down of 16 seconds, you only need to survive 10 seconds before the next Serenity.
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post Jul 18 2013, 05:53 PM

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Inspired by Druin in clearing VOTA MP10 in 7min 33sec... I test myself on this... result

MP10 VOTA all clear (including mobs) 12min 50sec... doh.gif


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post Jul 18 2013, 07:28 PM

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LS only gain you life after the damage. So, if you have not enough EHP, you die...

LoH / LPSS works during Hit or when spirit is used

Life regen works before attacks...



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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jul 18 2013, 08:18 PM)
Actually only problem is RD mob. Other then that 3% seems ok wor.. but that's on mp5 lar  tongue.gif . gonna try mp10 plak after this. I read above 200K dps can jalan with 3% ls so i try lar. anyway, seems like it might be not enough.
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If got enough gold, dual LS is the way to go... allow u to play like barb biggrin.gif

If not, need to kite a bit or increase EHP to 550k or more... I have been with 3% LS and 620k EHP... can continuously attack RD in and bell them non-stop... look E with RD and Extra Health at 2 minutes:



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