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post Mar 25 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Mar 24 2013, 07:28 PM)
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what the hell???

yang mati, bapak, emak, anak lelaki, anak perempuan. parah, anak lelaki.

apa askar kita buat?

too scared to send recce team to properly check? just blast the house from all sides?

i blame our media for hyping the sulu soldiers using black magic, got magical powers, need to be shot ten times only die bla bla bla... our soldiers became scared to come face to face with those sulu suspects.

cehhh...shame on our army. with all the fierce commando pictures......bullshit! pondan!!!!!

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post Mar 25 2013, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:21 PM)
what the hell???

yang mati, bapak, emak, anak lelaki, anak perempuan. parah, anak lelaki.

apa askar kita buat?

too scared to send recce team to properly check? just blast the house from all sides?

i blame our media for hyping the sulu soldiers using black magic, got magical powers, need to be shot ten times only die bla bla bla... our soldiers became scared to come face to face with those sulu suspects.

cehhh...shame on our army. with all the fierce commando pictures......bullshit! pondan!!!!!
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babi ko diam lah...
bullshit sana sini..
stimix please delete his comment..really stupid fella
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:21 PM)
what the hell???

yang mati, bapak, emak, anak lelaki, anak perempuan. parah, anak lelaki.

apa askar kita buat?

too scared to send recce team to properly check? just blast the house from all sides?

i blame our media for hyping the sulu soldiers using black magic, got magical powers, need to be shot ten times only die bla bla bla... our soldiers became scared to come face to face with those sulu suspects.

cehhh...shame on our army. with all the fierce commando pictures......bullshit! pondan!!!!!
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keyboard general has spoken. y dun u go there n command our troops? troops already pindah all villagers but yet some still degil dun wanna pindah. already said again n again that location is RED ZONE.

anyway some of degil one might be potentially are illegals too. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:21 PM)
what the hell???

yang mati, bapak, emak, anak lelaki, anak perempuan. parah, anak lelaki.

apa askar kita buat?

too scared to send recce team to properly check? just blast the house from all sides?

i blame our media for hyping the sulu soldiers using black magic, got magical powers, need to be shot ten times only die bla bla bla... our soldiers became scared to come face to face with those sulu suspects.

cehhh...shame on our army. with all the fierce commando pictures......bullshit! pondan!!!!!
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They were already dead before our dude even went in.

And beside, the media has nothing to do with the boots on the ground. Black magic ke, ilmu hitam/putih/kelabu/coklat ke, diorang pernah deal, tau la camane.
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(maxpudding @ Mar 25 2013, 07:19 PM)
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ Mar 25 2013, 10:27 PM)
keyboard general has spoken. y dun u go there n command our troops? troops already pindah all villagers but yet some still degil dun wanna pindah. already said again n again that location is RED ZONE.

anyway some of degil one might be potentially are illegals too. icon_idea.gif
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This was in the media yesterday, more or less the same...

Satu pertempuran telah berlaku antara pasukan keselamatan Malaysia dengan lanun-lanun Sulu di sebuah kawasan berpaya. Dalam pertempuran jam 9.15 pagi tadi, pasukan keselamatan Malaysia berjaya membunuh empat orang lanun Sulu, manakala seorang anggota tentera mengalami kecederaan. Seorang kanak- kanak juga ditemui cedera berada disamping 4 mayat pengganas tersebut.

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why did they write empat pengganas mati or empat lanun mati, when in actual it was a man, a woman, and a boy and a girl, with the third child injured a boy.

our army certainly could do better than that!!!

two boys and a girl shooting at our fully geared army??????
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:41 PM)
This was in the media yesterday, more or less the same...

Satu pertempuran telah berlaku antara pasukan keselamatan Malaysia dengan lanun-lanun Sulu di sebuah kawasan berpaya. Dalam pertempuran jam 9.15 pagi tadi, pasukan keselamatan Malaysia berjaya membunuh empat orang lanun Sulu, manakala seorang anggota tentera mengalami kecederaan. Seorang kanak- kanak juga ditemui cedera berada disamping 4 mayat pengganas tersebut.

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why did they write empat pengganas mati or empat lanun mati, when in actual it was a man, a woman, and a boy and a girl, with the third child injured a boy.

our army certainly could do better than that!!!

two boys and a girl shooting at our fully geared army??????
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Welcome to counter-insurgency warfare. Meatshields are used often by the losing side.
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:21 PM)
what the hell???

yang mati, bapak, emak, anak lelaki, anak perempuan. parah, anak lelaki.

apa askar kita buat?

too scared to send recce team to properly check? just blast the house from all sides?

i blame our media for hyping the sulu soldiers using black magic, got magical powers, need to be shot ten times only die bla bla bla... our soldiers became scared to come face to face with those sulu suspects.

cehhh...shame on our army. with all the fierce commando pictures......bullshit! pondan!!!!!
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you dont know their guerilla tactics....in the red zone better safe than sorry..
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 25 2013, 10:44 PM)
Welcome to counter-insurgency warfare. Meatshields are used often by the losing side.
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see the OFFICIAL news from Bernama.

Satu pertempuran telah berlaku antara pasukan keselamatan Malaysia dengan lanun-lanun Sulu di sebuah kawasan berpaya. Dalam pertempuran jam 9.15 pagi tadi, pasukan keselamatan Malaysia berjaya membunuh empat orang lanun Sulu, manakala seorang anggota tentera mengalami kecederaan. Seorang kanak- kanak juga ditemui cedera berada disamping 4 mayat pengganas tersebut.

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what you are saying is just speculation, contradicting the official release by our army itself.
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:50 PM

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oh my, too much play battlefied is it? just let out army do their job. if the place been labelled as red zone, anything move is suspected an enemy.
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:48 PM)
see the OFFICIAL news from Bernama.

Satu pertempuran telah berlaku antara pasukan keselamatan Malaysia dengan lanun-lanun Sulu di sebuah kawasan berpaya. Dalam pertempuran jam 9.15 pagi tadi, pasukan keselamatan Malaysia berjaya membunuh empat orang lanun Sulu, manakala seorang anggota tentera mengalami kecederaan. Seorang kanak- kanak juga ditemui cedera berada disamping 4 mayat pengganas tersebut.

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what you are saying is just speculation, contradicting the official release by our army itself.
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lanun is lanun la, woman cannot be lanun? kanak kanak cannot be lanun?

pompuan cannot be terrorist? u wan me to post 12 years old kid holding ak47 photo?

when someone got their hand cut off alive, what are they?
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:52 PM

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Seorang Lagi Pengganas Serah Diri Di Tanjung Batu

LAHAD DATU: Seorang pengganas Sulu ditahan selepas menyerah diri ketika terserempak dengan pasukan keselamatan yang menjalankan operasi penggeledahan di Tanjung Batu, di sini, lewat hari Isnin.

Dalam kejadian kira-kira pukul 5 petang itu, sepasukan unit Gerak GempurKhas (GGK) Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM) sedang melakukan operasi di satu kawasan paya sebelum terserempak dengan pengganas itu.

Dia kemudian melarikan diri sebelum dikejar dan akhirnya menyerah diri.

Lelaki dipercayai tanpa senjata itu menyerah diri dengan mengangkat tangandan meminta pasukan keselamatan tidak melepaskan tembakan terhadapnya. Difahamkan dua kereta perisai berantai dikerahkan untuk operasipemantauan berterusan bagi mengesan pengganas lain.

Kereta perisai itu dipercayai dikerahkan kerana bimbang penyerahan diri yangdilakukan itu sebagai taktik kotor untuk pengganas lain melepaskan tembakanterhadap pasukan keselamatan.

Bagaimanapun, sebaik mendapati tiada yang mencurigakan dan tidak membahayakan, pasukan keselamatan menahan pengganas berkenaan.

Pengganas itu kemudian diserahkan kepada pasukan VAT69 dan dibawa ke lokaptahanan sementara untuk disoal siasat.

Panglima Tentera Darat Jen Tan Sri Dato' Seri Zulkifli Zainal Abidin ketikadihubungi mengesahkan kejadian itu.

Timbalan Ketua Polis Negara Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar pula berkata pasukannya(VAT69) telah menerima pengganas tersebut dari GGK ATM dan sidang media bersamaATM akan diadakan esok.

Sehingga kini, jumlah tahanan mengikut Akta Kesalahan Keselamatan (Langkah-Langkah Khas) 2012 (SOSMA) meningkat kepada 111 orang, pengganas ditembak mati 67 dan mayat dibawa keluar 42. - BERNAMA
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:52 PM

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another para from Bernama news:

"Pasukan keselamatan kemudiannya melepaskan tembakan bagi membersihkan rumah yang mula-mula dimasuki dua pengganas itu sebelum memasukinya dan menjumpai empat orang mati ditembak," katanya pada sidang akhbar bersama Timbalan Ketua Polis Negara Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar di Markas Operasi di Felda Sahabat 16 di sini, Ahad.

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it was our army that shot from all sides to 'membersihkan' the house. shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:48 PM)
see the OFFICIAL news from Bernama.

Satu pertempuran telah berlaku antara pasukan keselamatan Malaysia dengan lanun-lanun Sulu di sebuah kawasan berpaya. Dalam pertempuran jam 9.15 pagi tadi, pasukan keselamatan Malaysia berjaya membunuh empat orang lanun Sulu, manakala seorang anggota tentera mengalami kecederaan. Seorang kanak- kanak juga ditemui cedera berada disamping 4 mayat pengganas tersebut.

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what you are saying is just speculation, contradicting the official release by our army itself.
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Its like this. Motherf***ers open fire on our troops, run into a house with children, continues to open fire, and when we fire back, everyone dies.

Wheter those kids were armed or not, God knows. But running into a house full with non-combatants and continue to open fire is pure evil.


Now, 4 people dead, 2 of them are adults, possibly husband and wife, and the 2 dead were their kids. I won't deduct the possibility of them being armed, hence 4 terrorist.
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QUOTE(giroud @ Mar 25 2013, 07:10 PM)
i read from exgen fb he said In counter 'guerrilla/insurgency warfare the ratio can go up to 100 : 1 or even higher!'.
i think all ppl can give opinion but real world is not the same like pc games.
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that's how COIN operations are.slow and grinding.it's not fast paced like a full on mechanized conventional war

you move into an area,clear it and move into another area while holding the area previously cleared so the insurgents don't infiltrate back

it requires a lot of time and massive resources.2 things the critics don't seem to understand
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post Mar 25 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:52 PM)
another para from Bernama news:

"Pasukan keselamatan kemudiannya melepaskan tembakan bagi membersihkan rumah yang mula-mula dimasuki dua pengganas itu sebelum memasukinya dan menjumpai empat orang mati ditembak," katanya pada sidang akhbar bersama Timbalan Ketua Polis Negara Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar di Markas Operasi di Felda Sahabat 16 di sini, Ahad.

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it was our army that shot from all sides to 'membersihkan' the house.    shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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aku rasa kita perlu hantar bro magi ke lahad datu dan letakkan dia bersama skuad pemburu sulu..biar dia ambil pengalaman sikit..
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QUOTE(leon-chua @ Mar 25 2013, 10:59 PM)
aku rasa kita perlu hantar bro magi ke lahad datu dan letakkan dia bersama skuad pemburu sulu..biar dia ambil pengalaman sikit..
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Dia salah faham je tu. Satu media sebut 4 orang mati adalah lanun, satu lagi media bagitau yang 4 mati tu terdiri daripada 2 orang dewasa dan 2 kanak-kanak bawah umur, itu je
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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 10:52 PM)
another para from Bernama news:

"Pasukan keselamatan kemudiannya melepaskan tembakan bagi membersihkan rumah yang mula-mula dimasuki dua pengganas itu sebelum memasukinya dan menjumpai empat orang mati ditembak," katanya pada sidang akhbar bersama Timbalan Ketua Polis Negara Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar di Markas Operasi di Felda Sahabat 16 di sini, Ahad.

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it was our army that shot from all sides to 'membersihkan' the house.    shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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LOL re ply from a noob doh.gif
so what?what is the logic u dont understand?
u expect to neutralize a house that got armed terrorist,wht u gonna do?u never play COD?when army found a house got terrorist(even only 1 armed person) what they gonna do?leave the house?using mop to clean the house?
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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 25 2013, 11:17 PM)
a computer game as your point of reference? a game where you can play rambo to your hearts content? doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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u are soooooo stupid
even in iraq & afghanistan,always got children casualties from civilian side
blame the terrorst lah,why bring their childdren here,we already give them 3 weeks to buzz off during the nego

This post has been edited by e36.hartge: Mar 25 2013, 11:20 PM
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post Mar 25 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Mar 25 2013, 11:01 PM)
Dia salah faham je tu. Satu media sebut 4 orang mati adalah lanun, satu lagi media bagitau yang 4 mati tu terdiri daripada 2 orang dewasa dan 2 kanak-kanak bawah umur, itu je
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sebenarnya media quote dari Panglima Angkatan Tentera Jen Tan Sri Zulkifeli Mohd Zin. takkan salah kot.


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