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NAS or Home server, which one better and cost effective
NAS or Home server, which one better and cost effective
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Mar 13 2013, 10:21 AM, updated 13y ago
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Any sifu can enlighten.... thanks
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Mar 13 2013, 10:23 AM
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interested in this too.
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Mar 13 2013, 11:56 AM
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home server good...but need maintanance cost..
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Mar 13 2013, 11:26 PM
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depends on what do you want the server/nas to do
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Mar 14 2013, 12:59 AM
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If its more than just file storage, go for home server as it has multi-uses; monitor network health, centralize backups and provide remote access to other home/ networked PCs.
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Mar 14 2013, 06:38 AM
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NAS is base on Linux, shld be more consistent than any others
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Mar 14 2013, 08:59 AM
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the requirement mainly more on file (different file format like microsoft office, pdf, jpeg, etc) sharing (store & retrieve) among PCs within the same network. No need very high spec. but lately NAS become hot topics in the market so just wondering is NAS able to do the same job or home server still the best in term of versatility and most importantly cost effectiveness.
Many thanks for the replies and hope to gather more specification info and recommendation....have a great day ahead guys....cheers |
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Mar 14 2013, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(MPK @ Mar 14 2013, 08:59 AM) the requirement mainly more on file (different file format like microsoft office, pdf, jpeg, etc) sharing (store & retrieve) among PCs within the same network. No need very high spec. but lately NAS become hot topics in the market so just wondering is NAS able to do the same job or home server still the best in term of versatility and most importantly cost effectiveness. Based on what you have just said, NAS can do the job just fine.Many thanks for the replies and hope to gather more specification info and recommendation....have a great day ahead guys....cheers |
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Mar 14 2013, 11:36 AM
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Mar 14 2013, 11:46 AM
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Mar 14 2013, 02:17 PM
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A NAS is generally more cost effective than a full-blown server not to mention most of them are so consumer friendly on the market these days to setup, configure and maintain for long-term network storage and sharing which would be more than adequate for any mainstream needs.
And I second D-Link. Their NAS are priced economically, you can find one for about 500-600 bucks depending on specification. |
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Mar 14 2013, 04:13 PM
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D-Link DNS-320 can get for about RM300 for 2 bay unit. I have installed an older D-link 323 unit with 2 x 2TB Western D drive. It runs without problem for 3 years already. U can set up the drive from the included CD. Its very easy. Until u come to the part where u want to allow which user to access which folder that it becomes a little bit complex. But still managable.
Most NAS units are like servers already. Can become print server, can even add in additional USB hdd or flash drive for emergency use. Some allows for torrent usage where u just turn on the unit, drop the torrent link in the page and it will d/l the stuff without having the pc to run whole day. The HDD can be run combined storage size or mirror. I saw 1 unit that has external LCD to monitor space, heat and a bunch of information. |
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Mar 14 2013, 09:42 PM
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Thanks guys for the replies again. When files are getting more and more, it is difficult to manage on pc or hard disk alone. A simple file server is definitely help besides cloud like google or Dropbox.
For a sme business like us, it serve our purpose whereby everyone can share the file simultaneously and do not need to invest a server that cost a bomb to us. If NAS is the right solution, any particular cons that we need to take note. Thanks for the advices again |
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Mar 16 2013, 11:39 PM
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In my opinion
NAS = File server, including Backup services. Easy to setup, easy to maintain. Minimal upgrade potential Home Server = File server + any other server service you need, like WAMP, etc etc... Harder to setup. Harder to maintain. Plenty of upgrade potential. Reliability => NAS > Home server |
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Mar 17 2013, 04:38 AM
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Also just a suggestion, for business use try to get a nas which supports RAID. You don't want your disk to fail and realize you don't have backups
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Mar 20 2013, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(eric_tan @ Mar 16 2013, 11:39 PM) In my opinion Thanks NAS = File server, including Backup services. Easy to setup, easy to maintain. Minimal upgrade potential Home Server = File server + any other server service you need, like WAMP, etc etc... Harder to setup. Harder to maintain. Plenty of upgrade potential. Reliability => NAS > Home server |
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Mar 20 2013, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(fluotone @ Mar 17 2013, 04:38 AM) Also just a suggestion, for business use try to get a nas which supports RAID. You don't want your disk to fail and realize you don't have backups Thanks for enlighten. I will get below spec....will it sufficient for start up ? and if let say would like to expand it in 3-4 years later, should I need to buy a new NAS ? ShareCenter® 2-Bay Cloud Storage 2000 DNS-320L D-Link® ShareCenter 2-Bay Cloud Storage 2000 (DNS-320L) is the perfect way to store, safeguard, share and remotely access or stream your digital documents, music, videos, and photos from anywhere in the world. Simple and secure Cloud access via mydlink.com and mobile app Transfer files and media between your ShareCenter, PCs, Smartphones and tablets Remotely stream and upload/download media to your mobile devices Four RAID configurations to protect your data in the event of a hard drive failure Intuitive web-based user interface for easy file access and management |
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Mar 20 2013, 10:23 AM
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Mar 20 2013, 10:29 AM
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been using NAS since like forever...got 2 NAS - dns 323 and dns320
very solid performance,file sharing(movies),centralized backup(but not much use),downloads and torrents... highly recommended.. |
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Mar 20 2013, 11:00 AM
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Mar 20 2013, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(MPK @ Mar 20 2013, 10:15 AM) Thanks for enlighten. yes this look good for start up, but in future if you need more space better get a 4 bay nas I will get below spec....will it sufficient for start up ? and if let say would like to expand it in 3-4 years later, should I need to buy a new NAS ? ShareCenter® 2-Bay Cloud Storage 2000 DNS-320L D-Link® ShareCenter 2-Bay Cloud Storage 2000 (DNS-320L) is the perfect way to store, safeguard, share and remotely access or stream your digital documents, music, videos, and photos from anywhere in the world. Simple and secure Cloud access via mydlink.com and mobile app Transfer files and media between your ShareCenter, PCs, Smartphones and tablets Remotely stream and upload/download media to your mobile devices Four RAID configurations to protect your data in the event of a hard drive failure Intuitive web-based user interface for easy file access and management |
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Mar 20 2013, 08:29 PM
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For Synology it seems one is paying for the software rather than the hardware. I have heard of it before, but never tried it. Probably have the same features as D-Link. Should be LINUX based software inside also. But Synology got high capacity 20 bays ones. D-Link does not have those.
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Mar 21 2013, 08:51 AM
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Mar 21 2013, 08:52 AM
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Apr 19 2013, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(fluotone @ Mar 20 2013, 08:04 PM) Dear All Sifus,I need your advice on similar issues. I have a simple LAN (without "Domain", don't know what this is) in my office, connecting about 8 pcs. All major files are shared in my PC running Win 7. Very often other PC cannot connect to my PC (turned on 24hr) and we both have to restart windows. Sounds stupid, right? I was recently told NAS can save me a lot of trouble. My requirement is quite simple: 1) To share data among different users thru LAN 2) Different users are allowed for different folders 3) Realtime data backup 4) Virus protection 5) To allow access of data over internet from home (boss want us to work from home mah) 6) Can download bit torrent (personal without boss's knowledge....) I don't really need big storage. Most of the data are MS Excel, word, drawings, etc. Not even up to 2TB yet. (of course exclude my downloaded movies which is > 2 TB, haha). I've gone thru the previous posts. Can I just go for 1) DLink DNS320L RM269 2) HDD WD AV DRIVE (NAS certify) 2TB RM309 Are the above 2 items enough to do the work? Do I need a 2nd HDD as backup? Currently I'm using 5M unifi with the modem and router come together with it. Since the company is paying, budget of +/- RM1000 is not an issue if I can get something much better by paying slightly more. Also, any guidelines for installation? (I can setup monitor, keyboard, mouse....but NAS?.....sigh.... Thanking for your advice!! This post has been edited by jinxiang: Apr 19 2013, 02:25 PM |
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Apr 19 2013, 02:51 PM
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with a 1k+ budget i think u can get a synology nas.. or something with raid support.. office data is important.. backup is a must have..
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Apr 19 2013, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(jinxiang @ Apr 19 2013, 02:16 PM) Dear All Sifus, please don't use office's server for torrent download. Cause when something happen you will be in deep shit.I need your advice on similar issues. I have a simple LAN (without "Domain", don't know what this is) in my office, connecting about 8 pcs. All major files are shared in my PC running Win 7. Very often other PC cannot connect to my PC (turned on 24hr) and we both have to restart windows. Sounds stupid, right? I was recently told NAS can save me a lot of trouble. My requirement is quite simple: 1) To share data among different users thru LAN 2) Different users are allowed for different folders 3) Realtime data backup 4) Virus protection 5) To allow access of data over internet from home (boss want us to work from home mah) 6) Can download bit torrent (personal without boss's knowledge....) I don't really need big storage. Most of the data are MS Excel, word, drawings, etc. Not even up to 2TB yet. (of course exclude my downloaded movies which is > 2 TB, haha). I've gone thru the previous posts. Can I just go for 1) DLink DNS320L RM269 2) HDD WD AV DRIVE (NAS certify) 2TB RM309 Are the above 2 items enough to do the work? Do I need a 2nd HDD as backup? Currently I'm using 5M unifi with the modem and router come together with it. Since the company is paying, budget of +/- RM1000 is not an issue if I can get something much better by paying slightly more. Also, any guidelines for installation? (I can setup monitor, keyboard, mouse....but NAS?.....sigh.... Thanking for your advice!! |
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Apr 18 2014, 09:19 AM
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I am also researching for NAS. I saw many recommend DLink, has anyone use Buffalo NAS? In term of HDD, what is the difference between AV and RED HDD (both are NAS certified)?
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Apr 18 2014, 10:13 AM
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Those NAS with a lot of bays is not worth the price. Haswell sips power so the power consumption difference wont be big.
Celeron G1820 or Pentium G3420 - RM139/RM208 Asus H87M-E motherboard (six SATA 6Gbps ports with RAID support) - RM329 Kingston 4GB DDR3-1600 x1 - RM114 FSP Hexa 400W power supply - RM129 Coolermaster 4 in 3 device module - RM69 (optional) Wifi USB dongle Casing is up to you for future expansion |
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Apr 18 2014, 02:14 PM
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Please buy at leasy dlink-dns 327. Those 323 models and below have horrible write speed. So spent about rm400 for a decent Nas. Still cheaper than a new pc...unless you already have parts lying around.
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Apr 23 2014, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Apr 18 2014, 02:14 PM) Please buy at leasy dlink-dns 327. Those 323 models and below have horrible write speed. So spent about rm400 for a decent Nas. Still cheaper than a new pc...unless you already have parts lying around. agree with you on the pc nas more expensivepc nas only viable if we have old computers around to recycle use as nas DLink has horrible write speeds even my mybook live writes and transfer faster anyone has tried WD's NAS EX series? saw it also has Cloud service to share the folder with ppl outside of the network |
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Apr 23 2014, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(TrOwA008 @ Apr 23 2014, 02:44 PM) agree with you on the pc nas more expensive DNS-327 not so bad...can get 60MB/s over gigabit lan. Not bad lah, for RM399. DNS-323 is horrible...only 2xMB/spc nas only viable if we have old computers around to recycle use as nas DLink has horrible write speeds even my mybook live writes and transfer faster anyone has tried WD's NAS EX series? saw it also has Cloud service to share the folder with ppl outside of the network |
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Apr 23 2014, 03:11 PM
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my DNS-320 still ticking
max 20 mb/s on 100 ethernet i have seen WD EX2 / EX4 doing over 80mb/sec over gigabit in online reviews thinking of whacking one EX2 just to try the speed and bittorrent |
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Apr 23 2014, 03:28 PM
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dlink is not so bad. It is cheap and good enough for user with low requirement. For the kind of price, you can't be expecting too much.
if have more budget then get synology or qnap. if even more budget then get the new hp microserver gen8 |
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Apr 23 2014, 07:09 PM
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The more the budget, desktop gets more favorable. You might even get 80Plus Platinum power supply with it too.
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