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TSHappyGuy
post Apr 6 2006, 01:02 PM, updated 8y ago

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post Apr 6 2006, 01:37 PM

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if you think you wont get what you expected from the new company then you better stay with your current company. and also must remember sometimes in career advancement you need to sacrifice a bit too...
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post Apr 6 2006, 01:41 PM

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Thank you a lot. Actually I have my decision already. Just want listen to other opinion and gain support from you all.
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post Apr 6 2006, 01:41 PM

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question when he will increase it?
maybe is just excusses for u to stay
there is no black & white
just word from mouth
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post Apr 6 2006, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(judge-the @ Apr 6 2006, 01:37 PM)
if you think you wont get what you expected from the new company then you better stay with your current company. and also must remember sometimes in career advancement you need to sacrifice a bit too...
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i agree with what judge-the said. if you think the new company offers you more challenging role, then go ahead. if it is the same, just stay. furthermore, you need to take into consideration whether the new company offers travelling allowance to you or not. no point if you have to fork out your own pocket money in that matter.

QUOTE(feralee @ Apr 6 2006, 01:41 PM)
question when he will increase it?
maybe is just excusses for u to stay
there is no black & white
just word from mouth
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yes. this is important too. make sure you sign a new contract stating your new pay n other stuff immediately when you decided to stay.


i know how it is feel in this stage whereby you got a job offer. i just got mine and currently deciding whether to take it or not too unsure.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Apr 6 2006, 01:48 PM)
i agree with what judge-the said. if you think the new company offers you more challenging role, then go ahead. if it is the same, just stay. furthermore, you need to take into consideration whether the new company offers travelling allowance to you or not. no point if you have to fork out your own pocket money in that matter.
The new company project currently in maintainance phase, so i will be there for few months as well. Will join new project after the project end. My current company just have one project only, because it is a application service provider, sell the product to different clients.

QUOTE(feralee @ Apr 6 2006 @ 01:41 PM)
question when he will increase it?
maybe is just excusses for u to stay
there is no black & white
just word from mouth
Is it will show that I am money-oriennted if request for new contract immediately? Will leave any bad impression? By truth, money is important to me as well. tongue.gif

I think i will stay at the current company because I still hope I can get what I am expected from this company, and I feel so sorry if I leave the company in this critical time for the project development.

QUOTE(goliath @ Apr 6 2006, 01:48 PM)
i know how it is feel in this stage whereby you got a job offer. i just got mine and currently deciding whether to take it or not too
Please share your decision when have made it. What is the reason you want to leave your current company? You should be happy if get the new offer when you are decide to leave.
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post Apr 6 2006, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Apr 6 2006, 02:11 PM)
The new company project currently in maintainance phase, so i will be there for few months as well. Will join new project after the project end. My current company just have one project only, because it is a application service provider, sell the product to different clients.
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you better think well on this matter coz you neva know when is the next project coming in for your current company.

QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Apr 6 2006, 02:11 PM)
Is it will show that I am money-oriennted if request for new contract immediately? Will leave any bad impression? By truth, money is important to me as well.  tongue.gif
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i don't think so because rules are rules. as promised therefore, have to show he really meant it without taking it for granted.

QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Apr 6 2006, 02:11 PM)
Please share your decision when have made it. What is the reason you want to leave your current company? You should be happy if get the new offer when you are decide to leave.
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there are few things which i have to consider before i take up the offer. will keep you up-to-date ...
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post Apr 6 2006, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Apr 6 2006, 02:21 PM)
you better think well on this matter coz you neva know when is the next project coming in for your current company.
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There will be only one project in my company, this project is going to do alot of enhancement. It cover all the things in the travel industry. This is my consideration as well, coz I think that I will gain more knowledge when join different project. Hopefully I will gain more knowledge as well when change my roles if I stay in the current company. Give my boss one more chance smile.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 03:52 PM

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hahah.. now you are more like a boss than an employer tongue.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 05:21 PM

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HappyGuy, I think you making a mistake.. trust the boss..Never do that..I'm sure your boss can give you increment but expectation will be higher on your performance.

You now give one chance to you boss. Will he give you if he think you are no longer valueable to him.


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QUOTE(Ido @ Apr 6 2006, 05:21 PM)
HappyGuy, I think you making a mistake.. trust the boss..Never do that..I'm sure your boss can give you increment but expectation will be higher on your performance.

You now give one chance to you boss. Will he give you if he think you are no longer valueable to him.
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higher roles usually comes higher pay and responsibilities. pay you for what?

HappyGuy, you know your boss better than the rest of us - if you think he's a trustworthy person, then why not give him a chance? after all, coming to KL isn't always good either.

just give some time, if you think really cannot - then move on.
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post Apr 6 2006, 06:45 PM

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Sometimes it's not the workload and responsibilities. When things turn out well, there's definitely a token of gratitute for some loyalty. It's not that the boss is b****y or what. So you play your part as an employee and see the progress of the company.

If you see the company is progressing well, then it's time to ask for an increment as mentioned. Else, it's up to you. If it's still doesn't meet your job satisfaction, then it's time to change job.


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post Apr 6 2006, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(HappyGuy @ Apr 6 2006, 01:02 PM)
I am a software developer, I feel very bored coding everyday, that's why I choose to change my job.

I have been offered a new job from another company. When I pass my resign letter to my boss, he urge me to stay at the company because company is really need experiece people to join the project.

He promise will increase my salary, which is same as the new offer and will change my responsibility, let me involved in management things, deal with client and promote as team leader (lead another one member only)

I am so confusing now. I dunno the condition of new company. The new job require to travel to kl city. Feel like not secured. Is it better stay at current company which is nearby and may be have good career, because this is quite new company. However, I worry end up will make me to quit the company in the few months later because I still cant get what I am expected. Hopefully, I dun want to find jobs again..
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this is one of the reason i dun to be a programmer

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 6 2006, 07:12 PM)
this is one of the reason i dun to be a programmer
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Same goes to me. I don't want to end up with a software developer, software engineer or programmer. sweat.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:53 PM

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no wonder nowsadays malaysia is lack of programming talents... tongue.gif tongue.gif everyone tends to escape from programming.. n giving lame excuses.. tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:55 PM

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Programming needs some talent. Too bad I'm lack of it. biggrin.gif
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and creativity as well. lots of it..
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post Apr 7 2006, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Austin123 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:53 PM)
no wonder nowsadays malaysia is lack of programming talents...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  everyone tends to escape from programming.. n giving lame excuses..  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I am not agree with u. I am from IT line. At least I can see that, almost all of my friend study computer science work in IT field. I dont think they tend to escape from programming. For my case, I am not to escape from programming, I still like to programming, but not non-stop coding 9 hours * 5 days....It will be more interesting to join the full life cycle of software development instead of part of the phase.. Writing report everyday, testing everyday also will make someone feel bored.

QUOTE(Ido @ Apr 6 2006, 05:21 PM)
HappyGuy, I think you making a mistake.. trust the boss..Never do that..I'm sure your boss can give you increment but expectation will be higher on your performance.

You now give one chance to you boss. Will he give you if he think you are no longer valueable to him.
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I think that working is build on the trust between you and the company, company trust you will contribute to their growt, and you believe that company will fullfill ur expectation. That's why you are employed and willing to join that company. Anyway, your words might be truth to some company, but not all. Thank you for ur advice..


QUOTE(goldfries @ Apr 6 2006, 05:35 PM)
higher roles usually comes higher pay and responsibilities. pay you for what?

HappyGuy, you know your boss better than the rest of us - if you think he's a trustworthy person, then why not give him a chance? after all, coming to KL isn't always good either.

just give some time, if you think really cannot - then move on.
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Yes, I am agree with you. higher roles usually comes higher pay and responsibilities. We must pay as well when we get.. tongue.gif

Finally, I choose to stay at the current company. I will have salary increament in next month, promote as team leader (although just have one member to lead tongue.gif ), will not fully work in coding only, have to take part in full life cycle of software development, and deal with client as well. I think is a good try for myself to build my career... cool.gif

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QUOTE(hazremi @ Apr 6 2006, 07:12 PM)
this is one of the reason i dun to be a programmer
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when you're on a routine job - it gets boring.

programming is more like 'stressing' compared to bored IMO. gila wan some times when you're rushing for deadline and the code just refuse to run and you're busy googling on how to make it go right.
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If you don't like what you are doing, you better leave. You wont be good and happy doing something you are not keen of.

I'm in the programming line and I find it challenging. You need to find something you are passionate about and do it. Sometimes I work 24 hours continously to get the job done. But I rather be tired than bored. So my advise if you are feeling bored, is to find another job/task that will make you so tired that you won't have time to feel bored tongue.gif

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