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kimyee73
post Apr 15 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 14 2013, 08:05 PM)
I'm topping up AmAsia Pac REITs, EI AP Shariah, EI GEM, Hwang AQ, OSK-UOB EM Bond, OSK-UOB Global Equity Yield and Pacific Global Stars next week...under Transfer-In programme brows.gif
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I redeemed mine from CWA and put everything in AmAsia Pacific REITS and OU Kidsave.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 15 2013, 10:41 AM)
Can describe how's the process like?
From what I read, it seems that wayne84 wanted more MY equity exposure ma
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Since mine was with CWA, I have to redeem instead of direct transfer. Eugene also said that direct transfer is quite slow depending on which fund house it is from. Some fund house has a form that need your current agent to sign and the agend would sit on it for weeks. Once redeemed and receive the redemption statement, scan it and email it to investhelp.my@fundsupermart.com. You then buy the ut funds that total amount is exactly same as your redemption amount. Inform investhelp.my or your favourite CIS before 2pm on same day so that they can adjust the sales charge to 0% before cut-off time. If buy after 2:30pm, you can inform them anytime before tomorrow 2pm. This 0% is not applicable for Hwang funds.
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post Apr 15 2013, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM)
Ok, same as what Eugene told me. So, when u did it?

I'm still waiting for the money doh.gif

CWA redemption proceeds took how long to pay? FSM is T+4. I hope Hong Leong also T+4 icon_question.gif
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I redeemed on 27/3 and it direct bankin to CIMB on 5/4. My wife's one sent cheque and arrived on 8/4 as she does not have CIMB nor Maybank account.
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post Apr 17 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 16 2013, 05:48 PM)
PRS with hwang or RHB better? suggestions? wanna buy 3k for tax relief YA2013 sweat.gif
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I bought Hwang. Dunno if better or not but the only PRS fund available previously.
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post Apr 18 2013, 01:32 PM

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Just signed investor suitability assessment form for PM. Heard this is SC new requirement. Anyone know how FSM is going to handle this?
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post Apr 19 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 18 2013, 01:56 PM)
Hah! SC following MAS rules, indemnifying themselves if investor lose money, you sign your fault.

MAS one crazy, either must own dip/degree in investment/finance only can buy UT OR trade UT more than 6 times per year OR take assessment test.

If fail cannot buy UT and have to sell off all UT within 90 days. All UT lol, including bonds.. laugh.gif

Usually to pass i trade UT 6 times just before my assessment expire.  brows.gif

Stupid regulation if you ask me... BUT licensed agent can buy sell for you even if you fail.. just cannot DIY.  rolleyes.gif
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Don't think there is any test. Just need to declare what is your intention for investing and that will determine which type of funds you can buy. I go for level 5, the highest risk and also signed for waiver to go outside of that risk and finally not going to declare my assets. If you sign lower than level 5, might force to sell off your fund if too high risk. Level 5 is maximum capital growth and level 1 is capital preservation. Heard that SC created this rule because of complaint from investors losing money with china funds etc.
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post Apr 22 2013, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Apr 19 2013, 09:46 PM)
Yes, I can park my cash at CMF, but that doesn't mean I use cash or cheque to pay them - I will still be using IBG. So, that's irrelevant.

There could be a delay sometimes, but that should normally be within the 2 or 3 business days. Any more than that, and more often than you would like, I suggest your company change banks.

But, more relevant in an FSM thread, they previously sent a reminder when they did not receive payment. That should normally be automatic, which may or may not be how they operate. My post was more to see whether others have experienced something similar, ie 5 days still pending and no reminders?
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They send reminder after a week. Happend to me twice as I have problem with my TM email not getting out. Have to use my gmail to send out.
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post Apr 23 2013, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(ilineZ @ Apr 22 2013, 08:32 PM)
if talking bout gold, i personally prefer to hold it physically.
buy from reliable shop, well known brand/miner.
coz so many scam around.

during september 2011 i was playing with gold futures,
that one day can earn 100k usd, its 300% profit. on the next day lost all.
lucky its not real money, just demo.  biggrin.gif

then lot of people say that end of 2012, gold will reach 2k.
but when it didnt happen, i hv bad felling bout it. something wrong will happen.
just counting down when it will go to bear market.
now that it happen  sweat.gif  just wait lah till it goes up again.
hope it wont drop and stag too long like during 80's

my father said that gold is on a 'fake' price now,
the real cost of making it is way lower than that.
lucky i listen his advice, not lured with speculator and media advice to buy more gold.
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Read this article for cost of mining an ounce of gold. I cut and paste the conclusion below. Cost varies with companies but this is an example that current gold price is very low and if it falls lower, many mining companies would shutdown and that will push up gold price again in the long run.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1340961-wh...-mining-edition

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Conclusion
NEM management did a good job limiting the increase in production costs for 2012 and keeping the company's total costs in-line with the rest of the industry. But with true costs at $1295 per ounce, the company has very limited margins in the current gold price environment - and that is without including dividend expenses. If gold production costs continue to rise without a subsequent rise in the gold price, then NEM may have to consider additional ways to reduce costs including cutting exploration or even reducing the dividend.

For investors interested in gold as a commodity (GLD investors take note), we believe that NEM's true cost figures offer a number of interesting takeaways. The first thing is that even the largest gold producers are experiencing rising costs despite their attempts to control them and margins are being squeezed. Secondly, even with rising costs gold production is actually being reduced, most miners are producing less gold than in 2011, and they are forecasting flat or lower production for 2013.

These two things, regardless of central bank policy, are very bullish for gold investors, because the industry is reducing gold supply even while their costs of production are rising. This shows that there is some major stress in the industry, and we do not think that the gold price can fall much farther before we start seeing even more significant cuts in production and reduced gold supply. Aggressive gold investors should be accumulating on the drops, while conservative investors should be eyeing the $1200 to $1300 range as a very strong floor for the gold price - though we do not think that gold will drop to those levels.

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post Apr 24 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 23 2013, 02:25 PM)
newbie post
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20% of my asset is in emergency cash they would be enough for about 4-5 years expenses
40% in EPF (5 years later hopefully can take out unless the govt up the retirement age)
40% cash.... that i would like to invest.
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40% in EPF..does this includes account 2 or you have withdrawn all in acnt 2? Also you can only withdraw 20% of balance after deducted rm90k from acnt 1 every 3 months. What you can invest from EPF would be quite minimal.
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QUOTE(marketstore @ Apr 23 2013, 10:49 PM)
do post your experience when you buy PRS from FSM.....i wanted to buy also but its not as simple buying UT from FSM...there are 2 forms to fill but i not sure if top up monthly can just be simple as clicking or need to fill up the forms also...
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You can use RSP feature in FSM to top-up your PRS monthly.
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 23 2013, 10:54 PM)
If PR takes over, I might hold station, who knows they can improve management of EPF? biggrin.gif
Actually it's quite simple...

First time need to fill up Fund House a/c opening form + subscription (purchase) form
Subsequent purchase just fill up subscription form
Each time have to submit with photocopy of MyKad

EPF needs the paper documents.
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Also need to fill up PPS application form if don't have it yet. If you have it already, can update your profile in FSM and then can buy PRS fund liao.
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 23 2013, 11:00 PM)
Must post. FSM will send u a stamped envelope addressed to their office when u request for the EPF forms.

Or u can bribe your office boy ask him send for u brows.gif
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How come they don't send to me? not fair. I have to use my own envelope and stamp cry.gif
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post Apr 26 2013, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 25 2013, 11:07 AM)
To a technicalist, high or low is determined by looking at charts and patterns.

To a fundamentalist, high or low is determined by reference to valuations. Most commonly used measure of valuation would be Price/Earnings Ratio and Dividend Yield. U cannot get this from looking at the chart. U have to rely on reports from analysts like those published by FSM on market valuation.
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To a trader, just follow the price action. Make money either way. Let the fundamentalist do their thing and we just ride on it.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 25 2013, 05:05 PM)
gee, already taken out from a/c 1 for PM UT. thanks for asking.
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account 1 or 2? I was referring to account 2 that you can take out all when reach 50yo.
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post Apr 29 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 26 2013, 12:09 PM)
I'm an investor, not a trader blush.gif

Never liked betting on trends...I hate trends...they made me lost loads of money both on KLSE and Uncle Lim vmad.gif
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Uncle Lim??
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post Apr 29 2013, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 28 2013, 10:28 AM)
wow, good to know that you can have (Almost a save heaven for yr investment) if the KLCI drops.
what i am interested to know is any idea what the M'sia Equities Funds would behave is the KLCI were to drop 5%?
what about yr whole portfolio behave if the global stock mkt crashed like for example 2007/8?
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If market crash like 2008 again, you just wait till it went down and starts to climb up again, then you switch part of your bond funds to equity funds and ride the wave up. When it seem like market has fairly recovered, you can switch back to bond again and reap the windfall rclxm9.gif
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post May 2 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 1 2013, 10:01 PM)
Nope, not so keen on going for a 100% MY fund with my EPF money. I prefer to maximise my foreign exposure with 70/30 funds. Hence my shortlist of Hwang SOF, OSK-UOB Emerging Opportunity and OSK-UOB KidSave. Sadly, no EPF-approved bond funds with switching facility under both HwangIM and OSK-UOB. doh.gif
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That is why I'm sticking to PM for EPF. Very flexible in term of fund choices for switching and balancing purpose.
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 1 2013, 10:19 PM)
When you plan to decide and buy into using EPF? I remembered you mentioned you sent the documents to FSM, but was lost.
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Look like this is quite common problem. My friend sent his PRS document to FSM KL twice and lost. They received on 3rd try. I sent PRS document to FSM KL once and lost. Now I send documents only to FSM Penang. Twice already and they received on both occasion.
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post May 2 2013, 01:18 PM

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read from personal finance that Kenanga is going to acquire Hwang. Any further info on this?
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post May 9 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ May 8 2013, 10:53 AM)
My share investments...gain 15% in 1 month whistling.gif

Now go screw yourself
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My stock option gain 40% in a week rclxm9.gif

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