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 CRYSIS , The Next generation PC game !, CRYENGINE 2 with DX10 and muti-core !

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post May 7 2008, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 7 2008, 12:15 AM)
True....hmmmmm...........are u thinking wut im thinking? a mice mod for console perhaps? That could change the face of gaming forever...LOL
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Well that wont happen for a long time. The console and the PC space is different. Right now most consoles are at our TV where we have our couch and we sit back and play. PC games are not like that and the posture and all. Maybe someone will create some sort of accesory that makes it rival the control a mouse and keyboard gives.


QUOTE(ben_panced @ May 7 2008, 08:24 PM)
i dont quite care if crytek dont want to create exclusives to PC..
if they do their multiplatform game well on PC -> looks at COD 4...  nod.gif
im happy,
but if they just code the game for the PC halfheartedly and worse, just ports it lazily from console build -> looks at AC ngan Vegas, Vegas 2...  vmad.gif
then ill surely be happy to *lanun* their game anytime  mad.gif bruce.gif
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Multi platform ain't entirely bad. Like you said COD4 was very well done. There are some really exciting 3D rendering tehnology being developed for a more multi platform environment. We'll have to wait for it a bit longer. Its by a certain company that starts with an 'I'
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post May 9 2008, 04:34 PM

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Infinity Wards..???????
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QUOTE(yaphong @ May 9 2008, 04:34 PM)
Infinity Wards..???????
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Nope...Id software.
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When piracy is this bad shocking.gif , u have to agreed on Crytek.
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post May 9 2008, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(zubai @ May 9 2008, 09:17 PM)
When piracy is this bad shocking.gif , u have to agreed on Crytek.
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goat ! i loled doh.gif

online game piracy..wth.

anyway, Crysis requirement is just, too demanding doh.gif



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post May 9 2008, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(zubai @ May 9 2008, 09:17 PM)
When piracy is this bad shocking.gif , u have to agreed on Crytek.
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lol the site sell pirated games on the net..
but i think the site has not been updated for a long time la..
just look at the hardware prices..
all of them are old prices and not to mention, old hardwares
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QUOTE(pikacu @ May 9 2008, 09:42 PM)
anyway, Crysis requirement is just, too demanding doh.gif
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the more demanding the better ma laugh.gif
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post May 11 2008, 06:59 PM

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Crysis failed to secure more sales because:

1. The requirement to play this game are way too high, not many gamers owns a 8 series GC, this is the main reason. Even if they own the 8800 Ultra, the FPS is still a joke.
2. The gameplay & AI are pathetic and stupid, nowhere near COD4 which are revolutionary, exciting and groundbreaking. When you play Hard mode in COD4, it is truly HARD!
3. They spent too much time on graphic, bunch of retarded decision by the developer. If i want good feel of jungle/island, i would go to Mauritius/Bahamas, nothing can render those islands in real-time, besides my pair of eyes!

They know Crysis is impossible on Console because of the requirement and now they wanted to go Multi-platform just because of the expected low sales ? They said Crysis 2 graphic will be more advanced than ever. How far can those 2 so called "DX9 Next Gen" consoles is going to utilise your upcoming insane criteria, that is truly beyond me!

Take hint from Far Cry 2 developer. They are going to showed you how it is done this fall! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ May 11 2008, 06:59 PM)

3. They spent too much time on graphic, bunch of retarded decision by the developer. If i want good feel of jungle/island, i would go to Mauritius/Bahamas, nothing can render those islands in real-time, besides my pair of eyes!

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Errr...a computer game graphics can never be as good as the real deal (picturesque locations), that's pretty obvious. That's why it's called the virtual world tongue.gif

It's like saying sex in a virtual world is never as good as sex in the real world...again very obvious

The developers were just trying to push the boundaries of computer graphics to a whole new level (its better to be progressive rather than to be regressive)



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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ May 12 2008, 12:52 AM)
Errr...a computer game graphics can never be as good as the real deal (picturesque locations), that's pretty obvious. That's why it's called the virtual world  tongue.gif

It's like saying sex in a virtual world is never as good as sex in the real world...again very obvious

The developers were just trying to push the boundaries of computer graphics to a whole new level (its better to be progressive rather than to be regressive)
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Either you wanted to reply my message or i have just replied your other reply. LOL It very obvious since you agreed that very sex thingie which cracked me up real quick. Since you have agreed, what the heck is there to reply debate about ? LOL, ROFL, LMAO

Don't be naive, expand your scope. The good reason is; saying pushing the graphic boundaries to next level, nothing wrong with that but the real truth is, Crytek have received 8 million from both Intel and Nvidia. Their partners main objective is to boost their hardware sales through Crysis. This is what Cevat Yerli capable of. Since the requirement are off the limit, even 8800 Ultra can't offer solid 60fps, who is to blame ? Furthermore, they kept boasting about Quad-Core. Many gamers upgraded to Quad and noticed the game didn't take any advantage. That is where those 8 millions creeps in.

You may say Crytek is developing today's game for tomorrow's hardware. That is what they did previously with Far Cry. At that time, it works because there are no pressure from their past publisher, Ubisoft. There are no deadline. People can accept Far Cry, simply because it offers something out of ordinary and new to the fps genre. This time around Crysis is basically the same shit, jungle/island and stuff. That is same direction with Far Cry. Their know that something need to make up for the similarity, hence those max this, max that stuff. Of course, it bring a new gaming experience but that can't compensate those retarded AI which ruined the whole gameplay experience, not to mentioned you need to have 8 series card in your GC slot.

A good game consist of good gameplay and also strong script with good storyline. This is the most important thing. You play games because of the gameplay, story-telling. If you like eye candy so much, go watch HD movies laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ May 12 2008, 12:52 AM)
Errr...a computer game graphics can never be as good as the real deal (picturesque locations), that's pretty obvious. That's why it's called the virtual world  tongue.gif

It's like saying sex in a virtual world is never as good as sex in the real world...again very obvious

The developers were just trying to push the boundaries of computer graphics to a whole new level (its better to be progressive rather than to be regressive)
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hahaha i really LOL'd at this laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ May 12 2008, 05:27 AM)
Either you wanted to reply my message or i have just replied your other reply. LOL It very obvious since you agreed that very sex thingie which cracked me up real quick. Since you have agreed, what the heck is there to reply debate about ? LOL, ROFL, LMAO

Don't be naive, expand your scope. The good reason is; saying pushing the graphic boundaries to next level, nothing wrong with that but the real truth is, Crytek have received 8 million from both Intel and Nvidia. Their partners main objective is to boost their hardware sales through Crysis. This is what Cevat Yerli capable of. Since the requirement are off the limit, even 8800 Ultra can't offer solid 60fps, who is to blame ? Furthermore, they kept boasting about Quad-Core. Many gamers upgraded to Quad and noticed the game didn't take any advantage. That is where those 8 millions creeps in.

You may say Crytek is developing today's game for tomorrow's hardware. That is what they did previously with Far Cry. At that time, it works because there are no pressure from their past publisher, Ubisoft. There are no deadline. People can accept Far Cry, simply because it offers something out of ordinary and new to the fps genre. This time around Crysis is basically the same shit, jungle/island and stuff. That is same direction with Far Cry. Their know that something need to make up for the similarity, hence those max this, max that stuff. Of course, it bring a new gaming experience but that can't compensate those retarded AI which ruined the whole gameplay experience, not to mentioned you need to have 8 series card in your GC slot.

A good game consist of good gameplay and also strong script with good storyline. This is the most important thing. You play games because of the gameplay, story-telling. If you like eye candy so much, go watch HD movies laugh.gif
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Why are you focusing sooo much on the hardware requirements? Just play the gamela, you don't need 60 fps to enjoy the game. I wouldn't say that the requirements are incredibly demanding because a sizeable amount of gamers have already made the leap to dual core systems with roughly a minimum 2GB of RAM and a reasonably powerful card (anyway you don't need an 8800GT to play Crysis, a RM 580 9600GT will do just fine). It's not compulsory to play the game at "Very High" settings anyway.

IMO, I think Crysis is a better game than Far Cry (the nano-suit feature definitely enhanced the gameplay) as well as offering the astonishing elements previously available in Far Cry (which is pretty fine to me hehe). I would say that the AI in Far Cry is considerably better than Crysis but again that doesn't make it better game than Crysis. I'm sure everyone would agree that the towards the end of the game in Far Cry, the AI was a b**** (a dozen rocket launcher wielding mutants ready to turn your ass into goo which frustrated the hell outta everyone who played the game).

Remember, you cannot treat and play Crysis like any other contemporary shooter. If you play it like a regular no-frills shooter, chances are that you are going to find it rather dull because you've done that before in other shooters. There are just so many things to do in the game and so many ways of doing them, that you're missing a lot if you don't approach the game from different angles.

P/S - It seems that I'm initiating a flanking manoeuvre in both Crysis/FarCry2 threads. Don't get any wrong ideas, it's just a small debate. I like to see it as a "discussion" hehe. Besides, I'm not even a Crysis fanboy, I just like the game. I'M A FALLOUT FANBOY!!

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QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ May 12 2008, 05:27 AM)
Either you wanted to reply my message or i have just replied your other reply. LOL It very obvious since you agreed that very sex thingie which cracked me up real quick. Since you have agreed, what the heck is there to reply debate about ? LOL, ROFL, LMAO

Don't be naive, expand your scope. The good reason is; saying pushing the graphic boundaries to next level, nothing wrong with that but the real truth is, Crytek have received 8 million from both Intel and Nvidia. Their partners main objective is to boost their hardware sales through Crysis. This is what Cevat Yerli capable of. Since the requirement are off the limit, even 8800 Ultra can't offer solid 60fps, who is to blame ? Furthermore, they kept boasting about Quad-Core. Many gamers upgraded to Quad and noticed the game didn't take any advantage. That is where those 8 millions creeps in.

You may say Crytek is developing today's game for tomorrow's hardware. That is what they did previously with Far Cry. At that time, it works because there are no pressure from their past publisher, Ubisoft. There are no deadline. People can accept Far Cry, simply because it offers something out of ordinary and new to the fps genre. This time around Crysis is basically the same shit, jungle/island and stuff. That is same direction with Far Cry. Their know that something need to make up for the similarity, hence those max this, max that stuff. Of course, it bring a new gaming experience but that can't compensate those retarded AI which ruined the whole gameplay experience, not to mentioned you need to have 8 series card in your GC slot.

A good game consist of good gameplay and also strong script with good storyline. This is the most important thing. You play games because of the gameplay, story-telling. If you like eye candy so much, go watch HD movies laugh.gif
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I thoroughly enjoyed playing Crysis. I thought gameplay wise it was fun...it wasn't perfect but fun. Crysis had things that other games dont have...and again gameplay wise I mean. Yes i felt they didn't quite design it to the strength of the engine. Coupled with great graphics, Crysis was one of the highlight shooters last year.

For how much the Crysis engine pushes, i have to admit it is quite efficient and well done(regardless of the multi core support). The way the engine renders is very different from most games and all current graphic cards are not made with this in mind.
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QUOTE(frags @ May 12 2008, 11:32 AM)
I thoroughly enjoyed playing Crysis. I thought gameplay wise it was fun...it wasn't perfect but fun. Crysis had things that other games dont have...and again gameplay wise I mean. Yes i felt they didn't quite design it to the strength of the engine. Coupled with great graphics, Crysis was one of the highlight shooters last year.

For how much the Crysis engine pushes, i have to admit it is quite efficient and well done(regardless of the multi core support). The way the engine renders is very different from most games and all current graphic cards are not made with this in mind.
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True, the gameplay was phenomenal and engaging. The game has high replayability value because of this and again, I'm not saying that it's perfect. But I dare say that it's the new benchmark for future shooters. Graphics wise, no other shooters come close to what Crysis has offered thus far.
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I revisited the stage where u first get the sniper scope...and u supposed to sneak into the base on top of the hill to download the info from the laptop. On my first few attempts i just follow Prophets instruction to go quietly, but this time i took a jeep and ram the cabin and rushed in and download the data. There was a grenade reload inside so i launch my attack from inside the cabin. Throwing showers of grenades and listening to the KPA's panicking and trying to peep in to see. When they all gone, I reload my FY rifle and go around and 'rambo' the rest one by one. Then I blew up the patrolling boats down the cliff......one word....trully satisfying. (ok thats two words).
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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ May 12 2008, 11:48 AM)
True, the gameplay was phenomenal and engaging. The game has high replayability value because of this and again, I'm not saying that it's perfect. But I dare say that it's the new benchmark for future shooters. Graphics wise, no other shooters come close to what Crysis has offered thus far.
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i don agree with that, even with delta difficulty it was easy.
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QUOTE(choyster @ May 12 2008, 10:10 PM)
i don agree with that, even with delta difficulty it was easy.
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You are talking about the AI. There are many factors that influence a game's replay value (the entertainment value of playing a game more than once).

So AI is only one of the factors that influence the game's replayability.

I was referring more to the gameplay as well as the wide variety of methods of accomplishing tasks and the lavish visuals. Game's music wasn't bad either.

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ May 12 2008, 11:57 PM)
You are talking about the AI. There are many factors that influence a game's replay value (the entertainment value of playing a game more than once).

So AI is only one of the factors that influence the game's replayability.

I was referring more to the gameplay as well as the wide variety of methods of accomplishing tasks and the lavish visuals. Game's music wasn't bad either.
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Yup, AI for me isn't influence on replayability. Major part of Crysis is its huge maps, so you can do more way than one on any particular objective, you can be as quiet as a mouse or go totally berserk and kill everything in sight, and different pathways too
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in the normal mode, does the game end on the battleship where for the first time you kill a very very big alien ship. i though i suppose to go back to the island to kill? A bit disappointing ending.... or did i miss out something?
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QUOTE(ssiapf @ May 16 2008, 08:00 PM)
in the normal mode, does the game end on the battleship where for the first time you kill a very very big alien ship. i though i suppose to go back to the island to kill? A bit disappointing ending.... or did i miss out something?
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Yup, that's the ending.

You didn't miss anything soldier (you'll probably go back to the island in the sequel).

Only thing I hated about the game was the ending.

Wasn't spectacular or mind-blowing.

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