hi all guitar phreaks.

i hv always wanted to make stompboxes of my own. but i have zero knowledge except a bit of soldering skills back at school.

i have yet to make my first one. and diystompboxes should be a good first bet. the beginner's project there.

i think its a very gratifying and satisfying thing to do... post away..we need experts, not beginners like me.

here are some good links i bumped into...

http://www.tonepad.com

http://www.diyguitarist.com

generalguitargadgets

maybe we can post up our progress too with pics. hope this shall be a good thread.

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This post has been edited by nick_drake: Jun 2 2006, 09:06 PM

yes good thread...

i still cant find my soldering iron =/

keep going boys ! what first stompbox do you plan to do ? a simple ts808 should be the simplest thing to do hehehe... but maybe the first stomps won't be for sale..

i think we gonna start with a relatively simple booster pedal ...
after 2-3 projects maybe i think we will tackle intermedietely tough ones like a ts808
hopefully good enuff to make a marshall jackhammer havent found the schemes yet tho
lol

I'm thinking abt making a simple Phase 90 pedal.

dude. phase 90? u got it.

http://www.tonepad.com/project.asp?id=7

but..its rated advanced...try if u dare

Advanced? Darn... I'ill nail that one day... one day.

Edit :
http://www.tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=42
Damn...

This post has been edited by led_zep_freak: Apr 4 2006, 02:39 PM

Well, when it comes to bulit something (that actually works) with my hands, i suck at it .... i remember last time at high school, Kemahiran Hidup kerja khusus .... we have to make LED circuirt board .... I well the whole board like Factory Standard ... put in the 9 Volt Battery .... the LED never light up

Well, at lest you get to understand how these stuff works from the inside point of view. You never know ... you mix and match and you create a new effect sound and call it ... BOSS nick_drake Effect Pedal

This post has been edited by TheWhacker: Apr 4 2006, 02:40 PM

My KH projects were done pretty badly!!! I have this phobia for electronics actually, but I still managed to light up my LED.

If he's successful it would be nick_drake Boss Pedal instead.

hehe...all that later lah..now concentrate on sourcing the parts first...jalan pasar...and.. ..i'd rather make copies of other good pedals than fumble with one on my own....at least until i gain more experience.


and i asked someone who's experienced in making pedals, he sold a few...he mentioned sth like a shop opposite pudu plaza called NIXIE. he said some casings can be found there...

btw, i tore apart a busted modem of mine. there are so many capacitors there. some of them can be used i hope. the tips are already soldered in..but can be taken out..and then extended with wire i guess?

btw, i think my mom's gonna buy a new toaster. so the old toaster can be used to bake cases after painting.

I think its better if you can post some pictures on what you're actually planning to do like the folks from Casings and Modifications.

[Worklog] Icute Casing

Worklog: Project Littlebit, - I'm lazy so this will take a while

[WORKLOG] Project "Number `1", my frist worklog and mod

With that, we all can (hopefully) tip in some advice and suggestions to make your very own Effect pedal

If you guys can make a Phase 90..... that would be freakin' sweet!!!!

Imagine doing one ala the EVH model!!!

hehehe..of course! will take pics...but we're at our infancy now...but as we make progress.. sure..

cant wait for the holidays... this saturday woohoo!

wld u buy one if ours satisfied you?

dude that sounds sooooo ghey

wld YOU buy one if ours satisfied you?

That explains it all.......

This post has been edited by blacktrix: Apr 4 2006, 09:50 PM

End of ghey discussion lol. First, you guys are worried that the Guitar Phreaks Club's getting to serious, now that we've created a new topic, you're gonna plague it with gay crap?

Now, where's evo.com when we need him lol?

Hmm, can we as normal people with 0% experience of making pedals manage to make a wah wah pedal?

that's quite a logical 'no' isnt it? like wanting to run before u can crawl.

yeah u can always try, u might get stuck halfway and the overly complicated schematic, and give up altogether. and u might not even try another one, cause u already hv the bad impression of diy pedals.

start with a simple one.

visit the pages above and check out the beginner pedals.

cheers/

when you guys getting started? sounds interesting.

OH YEA.. THE SITE ROCKS
i gonna make my own big muff weh...

then keep us updated k?

long way more la.. haha
let me fine one day when i'm free to go like jalan pasar to get all the parts..

im going tmr...wanna join?

Still not asleep??? Damn... rushing assignments, I hope I don't oversleep tmr.

what ?
i wan.. hahaha

someone did oversleep

I slept at 5 mah.

bz wanking ?

will start soldering tmr @ nick_drakes place lolol

This post has been edited by sean392: Apr 10 2006, 09:43 PM

hurhurhur...

dammit! does anyone know where to get DPDT switches? someone just has got to tell us...

went to most of the shops at pasar road..dont have...

fixed for greater justice....

How was your soldering party in nick_drake's house??? Everything worked out fine???

wah started soldering already?...
muz be quite pro

juz curious... done ur printed circuit board already?

havent gone yet =/

yeah. done all the component soldering, and wires. now need a dpdt stompswitch. thats holding everything back.

i just asked someone who builds his own pedals, he said woh fatt ( oh noes! ) sells these dpdt stompswitches. they call it wah switch. rm20++ . shite. so expensive...

Go get your switches from Aaron @ DIYsboxes. High quality.
3pdt switches are better imo. Can make a pedal true bypass with no effort at all. Simple as cake
Be prepared as you probably won't be able to get a noise-free fully functional pedal at your 1st attempt.

Wahs are simple to make but the components are quite pricey. Not worth it imo.

the pr0 is back!!!!!
any advices to give?

I have long wanted to try making my own stompboxes but havent really found the time to do it.
basic electronics and soldering experience already have since I was 11.
perhaps end of this semester eh.
Good luck to u guys! hope to see some of them coming up.

we both phailed

led_zep ur our last hope
lol
need to get another board
the pcb is THE FCKIN WRONG BOARD
AND THE JALAN PASAR LADY CON OUR MONEY

hahahah. padan our muka la. we mmg kena conned cause we didint know our stuff.



that is a PCB. its the wrong board i suppose.

we needed a perfboard.

dammit.

bout wah switch..can we get at jalan pasar??

What type of PCB did u guys need???

btw nick_drake... hehe u need to brush up on ur soldering skills. from the looks of it make sure they dont dribble to the other threads or you may get a short circuit. dont worry though. practice makes perfect. just make sure the soldering tip is clean, put the tip at the corner of the leg and the PCB, then just touch a little solder into the corner and done.

This post has been edited by MetalZone: Apr 13 2006, 02:02 AM

we had a soldering gun
and the tip wasnt hot =/ the sides were lol

soldering gun eh. i assume not the type that dispenses the solder as well.
is the tip clear silver colour or issit black? if its black you need to scrape it off or clean with flux.
tell me about burning urself on the soldering iron... i've encountered that countless of times LOL.

dont really know abt that. wah switch? is it any regular dpdt switch?

we needed a perfboard, where the copper dots beneath are not connected to one another. this Printed Circuit Board we soldered on, is the wrong one. its used for some other purpose.

yeah, my soldering sucks. partially due to the 'not fresh' iron.

sean's one looked much better.

now need to get a perfboard.

What the????? LET'S GO BACK WITH 3 SOLDERING GUNS!!!

more like we were, inexperienced. they say , knowledge is power. we had no knowledge. no power.


nvm. ill go down alone and get the stuff for u guys. sean is going to pop by wohfatt soon and ask if they have switches.

the dpdt's, terpaksa order online.

http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=24 this one's the cheapest. 3.75.but shipping kills. if we have anyone living in the states we cld tumpang them.

OR

http://www.diystompboxes.com/cart/int.htm which evo.com suggested.

its a total of $14.10 for two 3PDT switches, INCLUDING delivary internationally. delivary is 80 cents a pop, switch is 6.25 a pop.

difference between 3pdt and dpdt?

uhm..in my own non technical words, its much easier to do a true bypass with led with the 3pdt, whereas u have to go through some kinda small 'millenium bypass' circuit to include an led in ur DPDT.



we're not giving up arn't we?

smallbearselectronics is good... thats where i get most of my parts from...
just organise a bulk purchase....

its always better to try everything out on a breadboard 1st....
get a desoldering gun.... its not that expensive

also its good to get a digitalmeter... that way you can find the faults and stuff easily

i failed twice before i got mine working and thats only the clean boost pedal..lol
i was half way through my fuzz pedal when i had to go back to msia... when i came back i just couldnt find the time to work on it anymore.
im on my easter holidays now so i would probably drop by frequently for the next 2 weeks.....
finally there are some peeps here who are into DIY stuff
dont give up!!! for the sake of malaysia we need more DIYers
failure is the mother of success.......haahhaha

totally agree with the shipping for those DPDT switches. i think so far that's the hardest to find. went through the entire jln pasar, was told that they dont stock them anymore, only those plasticky ones.

long live DIY and cheap effects!

holy shi-
very similar experience
infact
exactly the same experience
went through entire jalan pasar
only got *gh3y* plastic ones

hmm...looks like we're not alone... i feel much better that way.

yes evo.com, for the sake of whatever we're trying to achieve, we need more people coming together and sharing their info and knowledge. everyone does their bit...

a question for you evo.com, while your're still around online.
the 3PDT at aron's is almost double the price of the regular smallbearelec's DPDT. which should we go for? im thinking of dpdt, to save costs, cause the millenium bypass can be built cheaply. but the delivary for the smallbear dpdt's cost a bomb. whereas aron's 3PDT's are much more reasonable with international delivary.

or we could just order dpdt's and hook up with any relatives there who are coming back to malaysia in a while.



btw, the jalan pasar people are a tad notorious aren't they? hahhaha..well..just like any street..

EDIT: btw evo, its alright to de-solder the parts again right? they wont be damaged by heat or de-soldering right? dont wanna waste the parts soldered wrongly on the pcb.

This post has been edited by nick_drake: Apr 13 2006, 05:30 PM

we do a small bulk la.. i also wanna do my own pedals..
and dudes, soldering gun where got nice ?
must use iron.. i'm kinda good at soldering...
but my iron kinda busted.. will have to get a new one...
u guys want help ?

oh and u can desolder it just make sure u dun burn the PCB...

This post has been edited by MoNnY: Apr 13 2006, 10:25 PM

doing a bulk sounds like a good idea.
count me in.

okay...a bulk it shall be. DPDT or 3PDT's?

ill paste up the prices soon here.

SMALL BEAR electronics DPDT

cheapest i can see there.. http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=24

Switch - Taiwan X-Wing DPDT
SKU: 0204

PRICE: $3.75 (10+ $3.50) (25+ $3.25) (50+ $2.95) (100+ $2.75) (250+ $2.50)

international delivary is somewhere around $10. local usa delivery is around 5-6.

forget about the 3PDT's there. way too expensive. 10 bucks.


ARON's 3PDT http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Post...&f=107&t=271721

Shipping costs to other countries is $1.60 for two switches via USPS First Class Air Mail and usually take about 4-14 days after being shipped
The total cost is $14.10 for a pair of switches.



if in aron's case..we dont need a bulk. unless we can personally email him , to bulk all our switches in one order..to save shipping...

haiyo... thats y i asked whether u all have done the PCB
u guys got the wrong type.. nvm let me share abit.. i am not a pro in this but i am an engineering student..

the right 1 should be made of 2 layers.. a layer of copper and a layer of plastic..

Introduction to the making of PCB
- basicly you are to draw on the copper layer.. the drawn lines will add a carbon layer or equivalent on top of the copperlayer... then the dip the PCB into acid.. where the copperlayer without the layer of carbon will be removed.. and leave only your desired conductor lines..

note : in this case u will leave the drawing of lines to the phototstat machine.. and the transfer the drawing into the board through a plastic transparency.. by using an iron (for ironing clothes)

Guide to making a PCB
1. print out the PCB layout from your respective source..

an example of a PCB layout
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DO NOT resize it.. just print it out in a normal A4 sized paper first.. make sure that your printer ink depth is dark enough.

2. u may need 2 transparancies for this step... (or u may cut the 1 transparancy into 2 to save $$). Photostat the PCB layout on the 1st transparency.. then inverse the 1st transparency and photostat the layout again into the 2nd transparency.. your final outcome in the 2nd transparency should be a mirror image of the original layout... in anycase of this step make sure that the ink depth is dark enough n make sure that there is no missing lines or so...

3. Transfer the PCB layout drawing from the 2nd transparency onto the PCB board.
put the 2nd transparency on top of the PCB board.. and then a piece of newspaper on top of the transparency... make sure your iron is heated up... then begin ironing... if you are doing well... the carbon on the transparency should be transfered onto the PCB board... and when u should be able to see a dark light reflective carbon layer.. otherwise use a marker pen n redraw the lines.

note : any missing lines at this point may be crucial.. but if there are some slight disconnects, u may join them back by using a marker pen..

4. Once u are satisfied.. dip the board into acid.. (not sure how dense the acid should be.... hehe).. i would say thick enough to wash away the copperlayer lo..

5. Drill holes.. the holes are for component legs

-End of the guide-


Hope this will help =)

thanks, read thru the whole thing. that sure is a LOT of work!

nowonder they sell ready to solder pcb's at such a price.

thanks for your input, appreciated.

I'd prefer to go for the 3PDT at http://www.diystompboxes.com/cart/int.htm

but if this is the case dont actually need bulk order.

btw, depending on the complexity of your circuit and your brain capacity (LOL) you can go with the current PCB you got if you know how to rearange them to utilise it.


actually you dont need to waste one transparency to invert the circuit printout. there's such a thing called graphics editing. lol. just mirror it in the computer before you print out.

This post has been edited by MetalZone: Apr 15 2006, 03:01 AM

okay guys, just went to wohfatt today.

DPDT stompswitch(they call it wah switch) is at rm20 per piece.
i asked them if i order bulk , any special price.
best is, 10 pieces above, rm.18.50 a pop.

not much difference man.

but , phew, finally a place where there are switches..even tho not 3PDT.

in total right
is it any more cheaper or expensive than ordering online ?

i wanna join!

if u consider it as RM20 per pc for the woh fatt's DPDT = RM40 for a pair... vs 3PDT at US$14.10 (RM53) a pair from diystompboxes. so its 13 bucks less. but looking at the difference, i'd rather go for the 7 bucks extra per 3PDT switch.

using 3pdt switches is easier to get a true bypass right? but atm we are still very new.... so, i thinks better we start of with something fairly simple and use cheaper parts first....
when we're better and capable of making complex pedals, then i think 3pdt will be a better buy then....

my 2cents only tho

but with the DPDT it adds more complication (wiring LED, and true bypass). besides, your switches can be reused even if u fail.

now somebody here wants some ! some buttsecks! c'mon ledzep,sean, heat up em guns! grrr!

agreed. we can save a few bucks and the hassle of ordering online for now.

well, the millenium bypass doesnt seem too bad.


but we won't discount the fact that we will need em 3PDT switches soon.


ok here's my progress with the beginner booster project.

first time i did it, didint work , cause i used a wrong board (supposed to be pad per hole perfboard. I also used the wrong parts , such as the wrong input cap, bloody shop supplied me the wrong one. sean take note.

so i went to buy a breadboard, and learnt a little on how breadboards work. i tried about 3 rounds on the breadboard, then on the final round, the circuit worked. em, there was sound, rather than the last times, when there was even any guitar sound, which showed the circuit is complete. but theres a problem, when i turn the pot around, it doesnt seem to have any effect on the sound. and when i max out the pot, the sound turns soft, thin, and farty. heh.

at least there is sound now, im gonna have to find out why it isnt working properly tho.



This post has been edited by nick_drake: Apr 16 2006, 10:55 AM

Sean, your sig is stretching the pagelar... Damn hard to read all the posts, please edit!

Wow, your project's showing some progress nick_drake! Keep it up!!!

noprb. felt bad i forgot to call sean and you if wanted a breadboard or not. nvm...i'll be going donw there yet again sometime later. to get switches.

you can just try both switches 1st before you guys make any bulk orders. 3pdt switches are alot easier to make true bypass pedal. DPDTs aren't that expensive.... im bloody sure you can get it cheaper else where. 20 a pop is fuking ridiculous.

yea you can desolder the components.

yeah, me knows it is ridiculous. but i tried jalan pasar and all...stumped with where else to try.

20, well, its a little cheaper than ordering online, those 3PDT's.

well, i gotta get my project to work first on breadboard, its farting when i max out my volume on the guitar. and scratchy when i turn my guitar volume.

Just wanna check, do we all need 3pdt. most of the schematics i know runs on dpdt. Still back to the question of what kind of effects we wanna build.

If we're gonna do effects, anyone thinking of building amps? JCM800-2203?

Hah with amps you're toying with lethal voltage & knowing how careless I am, I better stay away from those, it's a matter of life and death, so good luck to anyone who wants to build their own amp!!

We should issue a warning. maybe do a 50w ones.

3PDT saves u the hassle of having to build another small circuit to include an led. with a DPDT, erm..i dont knw how it can work with an led without a millenium bypass.

im still very new.
hehe...we better keep a 50km radius away from chanti.
heh...if u click on the links on myt first post, there are small amp projects there. 5-10 watt tube amps. check em out for fun's sake.



This post has been edited by nick_drake: Apr 17 2006, 02:07 PM

if u guys gonna order the PCB and bypass switch let me know...
cause i also want in

SUCCESS! YEAH BABY! got it to work!

links to the pics and me asking for help at the forum.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/inde...p?topic=44368.0

gawd! im so happy! relieved! after 3-4 days of working on it.

yeah..now need to get casing, switches, led's, diodes, for the milbypass.



c'mon guys! start making pedals!

Congrats man!!! Not a bad effort, keep us updated with your progress.

And oh, enjoy listening to the Indo station.

no time go jalan pasar get all the stuffs le..
led zep, come we go this friday... haha

Damn busy with assignments lar haha...
Plus, I already got the stuff. You should've joined us last week.
What time are you going anyway?

you going? i might be going on saturday, then to the radiomalaya gig at klpac. but i dont think so. if you go, can i tumpang some stuff? i dont want to go down there AGAIN, that's if it isnt troubling you, and if you're going la. tell me k.

btw, what u planning to build monny? start with this booster la?
yeah ledzep, your stuff's still with me. uhm..ill give it to u when the holiday's over. ok?

Congrats dude!
I'm also very busy with assignments...
Wanna try making a TS808 during my break.
Anyone wants to bulk order boards from tonepad?

This post has been edited by MetalZone: Apr 18 2006, 12:14 AM

thanks guys. its not finished yet, needs some more stuff, then housed.

but its working.

if anyone of you guys go down to jalan pasar..do alert me in this thread k? wanna tumpang some stuff. and if i ever go down again, ill let u guys know.

hmm... who's got paypal and wants to do a bulk?
thinking of getting 3PDT switches and a TS808 board. lazy wanna make my own board atm. maybe in my next pedal.

heh, thought of gettintg DPDT switches from wohfatt. but i saw the milinium bypass diagrams here.. http://geofex.com/Article_Folders/Milleniu...20Millenium.pdf
scares the shit outta me. i dont knw what parts..and i dont knw if they're available.

3PDT it may be...so who's got paypal...damn ridiculous tho, to pay 27 ringgit for a bloody switch.

i dunno wether one of u have done it...did anyone search 3dpt or dpdt either ar RS http://www.rsmalaysia.com or Farnell http://my.farnell.com/ ...did they have it??

they have 3PDT switches but not the push-switch type. Toggle 3PDT switches even jalan pasar can easily get.

i planning to get the stuffs first but start in june when i'm having my break
but i don't know jalan pasar well

heck we were lost for awhile b4 reaching jalan pasar
plus i was having a headache wrong timing ugh
lol

we can help u with directions. it isnt that bad. take rapidkl 113 . thats easier.


checked out those 2 sites. nothing there man. so industrial. so expensive.

This post has been edited by nick_drake: Apr 18 2006, 11:07 AM

haha thanks.

you guys are nuts! hahaha!

im having trouble with switches, and im hearing about half stacks, strings, and guitars.

jokes aside, im still very new. this success is just a small start. there is so much i dont know.

well, i want to do more already .

Guys, please keep in topic. He's making his own stompboxes not guitar, strings and what not.

nick_drake, so how's project going on ?

I got some LEDs if you want

This post has been edited by TheWhacker: Apr 19 2006, 09:50 AM