Fresh water droplet from an under pass while waiting for traffic light. it is rejecting water even at standstill http://twitpic.com/c9zcs9

I realize, the cleaner your car is, the more noticeable the dust sticking to your car. 

I've just opti-seal-ed and wax my car. Feel so clean and shinny now, of course minus the swirl. 

I always use Optimum, you mistaken me as someone else ah?

Just that I start to understand more into car detailing, and realize there are more or better alternative out there.

Well cleaning car is fun and satisfactory, as long as the wife do not grumble. 

And the thing is, many people don't realize that dirt build up overtime can hamper water beading.

You could also try to consider CarPro ReLoad.... 

you need to ask them, what is 3 layer.

On its own, maybe can last a couple of months or so. Can also be diluted or 'wax-on-wet' as they say, for topping up once in a while.

I think UQD would spoil it...that thing got quite a strong cleaner in it. Haven't tried that one before though...just my presumptions based on what UQD can do to other waxes/sealants.

I bought a few stuffs from them before, including my CQuartz and a couple of bottles of ReLoad (to name a few....heheh). I can't say I would vouch for him but I had known the owner for quite a few years already and met him personally on a number of occasions. You can COD with him cuz he's around Klang Valley. Doesn't seem to have ReLoad in stock though.....

There is another place that I found in fb...sort of the 'Authorised' CarPro dealer...but the page is quite dormat....I think they're based in Penang....

Don't get me wrong....waxes/sealants are still cool and I still like them very much. Maybe I'll re-visit when the kids are all grown up and can take care of themselves. Anyway, also feeling some 'lazybones' slowly developing.....hahahaha.....

i still have some M83 and M80 left but no rotary (my dumb B&D KP600 isn't powderful enough lol) or DA to do anything

see when i have the money then i invest in a el-cheapo DA

can't recommend as i think its quite expensive

there's the bosch 270ae or something. i wonder if anyone has it?

Quite durable. If well maintained, I think can easily last 1 year or more. Problem is, application is a bit tricky...or should I say problematic if not done correctly.
Do not underestimate the power of the Bosch....or should I say the Bosch ROB combined with some of the latest compounds/polishes/pads.....forgot already ka....??

China DA @ RM450 ok?

After a wash, I just sheet most of the water off, then spray on and spread, wipe and buff with a dry mf after leaving it briefly to dry a little. Two half-sprays for the size of a door panel. I use OCWax and other spray waxes/sealants the same way. Having *some* water on the surface seemed to produce less streaking on my burgundy waja....

Ya...I think Ultramate is around that price.

Well...not really many in the group and with no 'opportunists' around spamming their products/services, things can get very quite some times. And the problem with a group of hobbyist is....things only get hot when something new happened....or else the rest are just same-o same-o

...in the mean time, maybe you should try to find somebody who has one to try out. Doesn't necessarily need to be the G220, any DA would do. The reason being, some people just don't like or just can't take it's vibration...like yours trully. Just a suggestion....

oh...and you also better check whether the price included VAT or not.....just in case....

Dang....tell you what....you find yourself a few guys....look for a place that have proper shade (under a porch would do)....arrange for one fine SUNDAY morning when everybody can get-together and I'll bring over a scrap panel, a rotary, a DA, a 'normal' ROB (Bosch) and the Bigfoot. You guys can have a go at it all day if you want, just promise not to throw them at each other.

Or maybe you can get in touch with Osren people...very helpful folks especially if you're an enthusiast. They have all sort of machine there and, if you're lucky enough, they might just let you try them out. Get in touch with Erik.

Oh...and I also have the NXT metal polish if you want to try. Never-Dull is also good and you can find it at ACE. They should be better for metal/chrome but I don't think it'll do much to rims....they're clear coated rims right?

Wheel cleaners would kill most waxes/sealants...have to live with that. Spray type waxes/sealants would be better....just for convenience sake as it's easy to apply them after a wash. Coatings...well...I've only tried AQuartz on them before and it only lasted ~ 3 months. But mind you AQuartz doesn't really excel in durability. Been neglecting my wheels afterwards ever since...well....long story. Nowadays I just try to keep them clean....

3 or 4 people is enough, krismas will have problem shouting loud to everyone.

BigFoot is a DA from http://www.rupes.com/. It is indeed a very nice tool to use.

Open table here la....the more the merrier.....

If you get a few more people from here, we might just do a 'small' get-together with the rest of the kakis as well....been a while since the last session. So there'll be plenty of people to share and guide. I might be able to help out to find a 'suitable' venue...