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TSgoodspeed
post Apr 3 2006, 03:07 PM, updated 20y ago

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The Complete Dummy's Guide to Xbox 360 and Windows XP Media Center.

Windows XP Media Center is another operating system something like Windows 98 , Windows NT and etc.

In short XP Media Center is an extension of XP Professional.

Things you can do with with Xbox 360 with XP Media Center.
- stream movies from your computer to your TV (MPG/AVI/DIVX/etc)
- stream musics from your computer to your TV
- save all your DVD to your computer
- purchase movies from Internet (Broadband connection required)
- watch US news (Broadband connection required)
- the list goes on...

What do you need
- XP Media Center OS
- A computer
- Xbox 360 (link within the same network as your computer)
- TV
- Broadband connection
- 1 ADSL Modem
- 1 Broadband Router with 4 LAN port(DHCP enabled)

How to set up (my options)
- Plug your telephone line to your ADSL modem
- Using network cable plug both your ADSL modem and Router (WAN port)
- Using network cable plug both your PC and Router (LAN port)
- Using network cable plug both your Xbox 360 and Router (LAN port)
- Turn on your computer and Xbox 360
- Make sure both your PC and Xbox 360 can connect to internet
- From Xbox 360 Dashboard - Media Blade, press "Media Center"
- Follow the instructions
- Done

Wireless recommendation
- Read on.

Streaming
- Read on.

Many thanks to Stringfellow for his contribution. thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by goodspeed: Dec 1 2006, 05:13 PM
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post Apr 3 2006, 04:02 PM

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Stringfellow is the only one I know who's done that. Have to check with him.

I've only set up Windows Media Connect for my 360 to notebook.
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post Apr 3 2006, 04:25 PM

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if you really wanna run fully on MCE then you need to pm our bro string.
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post Apr 3 2006, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(goodspeed @ Apr 3 2006, 03:07 PM)
Anyone tried to link/stream movie before using the above method ? How's the quality ?

If i am running Media Center in Malaysia, can I watch US standard broadcast shows ?

or can i purchase movie's from it ??

any ideas guys ??
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i don't think you can watch US tv broadcasts with windows xp mce. what the thing actually does is download tv guide from the net only, the broadcast is tuned from the tv card, be it analogue or digital. anyway, i dont hv xp mce, contact stringfellow for more info.
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post Apr 3 2006, 04:46 PM

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will do.. thanks for the info guys..
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post Apr 3 2006, 06:46 PM

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PM received and responded to you Goodspeed. Im in the process of re-encoding every important title in my library to WMv as we speak.Long arduous process i admit, but once it is done, the MCE PC will become the digital hub for every movie i wanna watch. I only need an Extender for the living room, and possible my bro coming back from UK bring back his PAL 360 to connect to the MCE as another Extender. The MCE PC can support up to 5 Extenders i believe.

I done audio and song ripping into the MCe Pc, and it is running smoothly . Using your free iTunes with FEtchArt to fetch the album art. Pictures from my vacations , worktrips, and other important business/social events are also placed into the MCe PC ( i have a 180Gb hot-swappable HP Personal Media Drive for all this, already encoded close to 50 movies, tons of songs, and albums of pictures, and still have a lot more space to fill, i plan to buy the Media Drives separately as future storage investment, since they are hot-swappable like memory cards).

Feel free to ask here if you have any queries.

I have given up on the "streaming Divx to your Xbox 360" transcoding method, as you dont have control over image quality of the transcoded movies your are streaming. It will consume temporary storage space, so having them in Divx and transcoding them on the fly, is not a preferred solution for me. But i understand that a lot of us have our movies in Divx/Xvid for the excellent picture quality: filesize ratio.

So now all my movie are in WMV format, encoded using Windows Media Encoder at my own custom profile settings. The results retains the resolution in which the movies resides in DVDs( or previous file formats), and in case of the DVDs, shrinks them to between 30-40% of the original filesize. You will get better results if you compress them further at the expense of picture quality if you want, but the movies i have encoded are meant as quality video streams for watching in my home theatre environment, when entertaining guests and friends when they came over. They dont even realise that they are watching a re-encoded WMV instead of a standard MPEG2 stream from a DVD! laugh.gif

I researched WMV-HD that will be my next goal. But doing so requires purchasing of special encoding softwares( which includes licenses as well) and it comes only bundled with the appropriate hardwares to do so ( mostly professional video editor are using, and that is a bit overkill). I have downloaded samples from www.wmvhd.com, and streamed it from the MCE PC to the Xbox 360 and the results puts even the "Welcome to Xbox 360" movie we all have in our 360s HDDs to shame. If only i can get hold of the appropriate softwares and licenses..., bear in mind , encoding a stadard DVd resolution WMV alone has me clocking up to 5 hrs to do the full encoding, minus the VOB ripping, and audio demux/muxing, but generally you need about 6 hours for a standard full motion picture movie to encode. But the results are breathtaking, likei said before, no differences between DVD and encoded WMV, PLUS all my encoded WMVs are Dolby Digital 5.1 surround, meaning they are not demuxed to shitty stereo, they retain their AC3 characteristics.....what this means is that, when that lightsaber in Episode III moves from a wide arc from top to bottom and left to right, my encoded WMVs, captured that same aural experience just like watchihng a DVD on a home theatre.

Any questions? Fire away!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Apr 3 2006, 07:05 PM
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And oh, if you're planning to stream wirelessly, i recently found out that Wireless "G" barely cut it. At my settings , there will be occasional audio breakups that the "G" bandwidth cannot accomodate, resulting in very slight pauses. I have recently won an auction in eBay on a dual "A+ G" router from DLink, DI-784, that will solve this streaming hiccups, since my MCE will streaming on the "A" bandwidth on the 5GHz band, while the rest of the internet/Xbox Live traffic will be routed via the "G" bandwidth on the 2.4Ghz band. Reason why these hiccups are evident is because the "G" band which operates in the 2.4Ghz band, are susceptible to interference from other electrical equipments like your cell phones, wireless cordless phone, even your microwave ovens. The "A" band is free from all these interferences.

All this info does not apply if you plan to draw Ethernet cables across your living quarters for a wired solution. I would rather like to keep my living area rather clutter free.

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BTW, i think both Calvinz and Metalgrindsolid have set up MCE/360 combos of their own, jusdging from their Friends List status. You may want to get a second opinion from them.
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post Apr 4 2006, 02:48 PM

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interesting... thumbup.gif

thank you very much for the info... notworthy.gif

will give it a try with wired connection... and see how it goes from there...

by the way.. where do i get Windows Media Encoder ??? Does it comes free with Media Center ??

thanks again...

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QUOTE(goodspeed @ Apr 4 2006, 02:48 PM)
interesting...  thumbup.gif

thank you very much for the info... notworthy.gif

will give it a try with wired connection...  and see how it goes from there...

by the way.. where do i get Windows Media Encoder ??? Does it comes free with Media Center ??

thanks again...
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The current softwares im using to rip, demux/mux and encodes the audio and video from a DVD/foreign source are:-

For video, i use DVD Decrypter (with DeCSS + DVD Region X to enable reading other region DVDs), DVD2AVI and VFAPI. These softwares will rip, and encapsulates the ripped VOBs into an Avi container readable later by Windows MEdia Encoder.

For audio, after the VOBs are ripped, i use BeSweet v.0.6 to extract the AC3 files and separate them into 6 discrete channels ( FL, FR, FC, SL, SR, and LFE). You MUST use this particular version of BeSweet, otherwise you will not have the 6-channel profile used to separate the audio. Once the program does its work, i then author it back into Windows MEdia Encoder to encode a perfect WMV with 5.1.

Of course , if your video format has already been encoded into stereo, no amount of extraction will produce a 6-channel separate audio from BeSweet. This only applies to video files with surround capabilities embedded. This case is most evidently exemplified by the "ahem" videos downloaded from P2P source where they are already in stereo.

General rule of thumb, AVOID multiple re-encoding to reduce image quality loss. If you encode across the board from DVD to AVI to Divx-and then WMV, your video feed wont be as pure as the original feed.

PM me if you need a more thorough breakdown on how to go about this further.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Apr 5 2006, 02:56 AM
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thanks a lot for the info... really appreciate it... notworthy.gif

guess i will do all the setting up this weekend so i can start asking more intelligent questions... icon_rolleyes.gif

hope others will benefit from stringfellow's infos...

cheers thumbup.gif



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post Apr 7 2006, 03:24 PM

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If anyone lazy to encode DVDs, can buy off-the-shelf solutions like Sony's DVD jukebox.

Anyways...

Do anyone of you use the MyTV and the EPG?
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Im not ENCODING or Burning a DVD, im encoding a WMV from a DVD and storing it into the hard drive. Otherwise it is easier to burn a DVd and play it by swapping it into the DVd drive. I want to avoid that by making the MCE as storage cache for all my movies.Button pushes from your couch or bed to change to a different movie, rather than having to get up and physically change the DVDs.

MyTV does zilch on mine.
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String, got ur DI-784 up and running yet? How's the performance.

If anyone want to stream DIVX to the 360, can try the latest version of Transcode360. So far tested ok with my downloaded eps.


This post has been edited by MK84: Apr 8 2006, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Apr 7 2006, 10:33 PM)
Im not ENCODING or Burning a DVD, im encoding a WMV from a DVD and storing it into the hard drive. Otherwise it is easier to burn a DVd and play it by swapping it into the DVd drive. I want to avoid that by making the MCE as storage cache for all my movies.Button pushes from your couch or bed to change to a different movie, rather than having to get up and physically change the DVDs.

MyTV does zilch on mine.
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sounds like the ultimate couch potato heaven to me XD haha. great info rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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Pinning this thread at the request of MK84.

I guess it's needed because media center pc is part of xb360.

If possible..try to fill the up the first post with more info, like faq. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 9 2006, 04:57 AM

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Thanks PJ. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 10 2006, 11:55 AM

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media center is way cool rclxm9.gif

it's like watching Astro on Demand...

tested my mtv's MPG and some ahem's MPG ... and i was like shocking.gif

f*** f*** where's my remote.... hard press (volume down)

thanks Stringfellow and MK84... for all the info.. thumbup.gif

all was tested on "wired".... now researching on "wireless"....

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I'm working on an EPG for Astro.... hang tight.

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