I'm looking to build bigger mass now that my weight gaining routine seem to no longer have effect. (I'm still damn skinny)
Before I go to GNC and look for protein supplements, can anyone here give me some advice on what products you use that you think is effective?
And the approximate price range?
I want to start off with something cheaper first.

I would say, read the stickies up in the forum before you open this thread.

2ndly, GNC supplements are overpriced.

3rdly, you need to know what you want to achieve before even wanting to buy supplements.

And as price references, you can easily search Lowyat forum for some protein deals.

Umm, i have read most of them.
Just hoping to get some personal opinions here.
I asked on the forums before where to get supplements and most say GNC and avoid retail pharmacies. Besides these two, where else can I get them?
Gain mass as a start I suppose.

I would still say you can perhaps get a better deal from Lowyat forum......

Depends on what type of supplement you want.

Personally, everyone has a different opinion of what that works for them.

Besides, some people said mass gainers are not really that effective/gimmick. Again, it always depends on the people that uses it

I shall now make way for the Doctors of LYN to guide you further.

Btw, do state your mass and height to begin with

This post has been edited by chiahau: Feb 23 2013, 04:54 PM

Well said, thanks.

I'm 165cm, 50kg
Was 46kg before I started working out.

What's your goal actually?

To just gain weight or you want to gain muscles as well huh?

I'm 170 n 55kg thou

To be precise, gain weight via muscle

If u want a cheap stuff then you should considered food protein such as egg white, red meat or chicken breast..thats cheap enough in malaysia as i know..i'm also eat those when i'm run out of supplement and not enough budget to buy supplement..
i'm 160 and 51kg (8 jan 2013)
now...59kg..
remember..u must eat like a 'MONSTER"..train like a "BEAST"
then u will got what u hope for..Cheers..

I'll keep that in mind

i'll recommend mass gainer if u looking for weight gain

have more eggs the best natural protein source...

3 month before im 48 kg , after 2-3 month i pump to 60 kg . mass gainer + food + gym !!
gogogo!!

This post has been edited by Mango Platforms: Feb 25 2013, 10:34 AM

I am also looking for the same mass gainer/protein supplement, I am 180cm, 70kg, yes wanted to gain some muscle weight.

I sought through the forum, too many proteins type, i presumed for such cases I just get a 'mass gainer' and try it on?

try dymatize super mass gainer..thats my trainer suggest for those who want to gain mass..and dnt forgot when u eat more then u should train more..otherwise u will not gain any muscle mass(jz gain fat)...if u train hard u must eat more protein, carb n calorie to recover your muscle for better growth..

Thanks for your response, this is the type I am looking at right now, however, +courier to east Malaysia its too expensive, some seller offer free shipping only within west malaysia.

aiyo why here all recommend weight gainer? actually u all can enjoy more delicious food to weight gain mah.
i never use weight gainer, my weight gainer is tripple cheeseburger, cheesecake, nasi lemak, KFC, pizza.. yummy...

Yes, i read from pinned post in Body-building & Strength Training, learnt a lot as per nutrition wise, but somehow just would like to try some supplement

Where is ur COD bro..

junk food

that all is not categories under junk food...

I'm from Kuching, and skynet/poslaju charges ard RM60-70 for a 12lbs pack. Will try survey GNC here, but looks like it is overpriced.

how much is ur budget to buy supplement..?
maybe can help u..my trainer own a supplement shop..can ship to u..im from sabah.

Can try Supernova Supplements at OneJaya 1st Floor or the supplement store beside Level Up Fitness. Both much cheaper than GNC

Thanks for the info bro. Will try survey there tonight.

u need to do more homework dude

u can get dymatize mass gainer in sabah anyway....

i think you are the one that requires the extra work man.

google is ur best friend..

so I assume, you deem that

We have to eat countless amounts of meals to stoke the metabolism fire?
We have to train 30 rep sets to get cut?
We can only eat chicken breast , brown rice, sweet potato, oatmeal and if we anything else we automatically gain 50lbs of fat?
We can only have "clean foods" (stated above) and every other food is "dirty" and that "clean foods" is more superior in terms of losing bodyfat and gaining muscle tissue?
We can't workout more than an 1 hour or we will go catabolic?

If your just looking for some extra calories without concern for health junk food will work great for extra calories...main problem with eating crap is the saturated and hydro based fats. they are bad for every aspect of your body....why do people think that to get calories in your diet the ONLY thing to do is eat junk food...ever think of making your own weight-gainer shakers ? i'll tell u how kids....listen carefully... just throw in some whey protein, banana, peanut butter, milk, yogurt, ice cream(if you have to), and oats and just blend it all and down it like a man...easy way to get in 1000+ calories fast.....dont you know that ? if u think junk food is a good choice of bulking then u should go ahead...i will be

Technically, I think what he was trying to say is protein could be easily obtained from daily menu/foods that you won't actually need to consume tonnes of other protein supplements.

But then again, I could be mistaken. Resorting to junk food to bulk up however, does sound wrong,

do u lift weight ?? can u show us some of ur picture....wanna see how ur progression of bodybuilding...coz u sound like a pro in this field...
this is good for you..take your time pls read...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_food

This post has been edited by cute&cool: Feb 26 2013, 02:00 PM

First off , uncle, since I am a kid to you (just being respectful here),

On which occasion did I say to obtain all of your calories from "dirty foods"? .

Food groups come mainly in macro and micronutrients, in this case we will only talk macros ( carbs, protein, fats and fibre if we want to be more specific).

To gain or lose weight, we have to adjust our caloric intake based on our maintenance calories ( bmr etc etc).

From the calories, we derive the amount of carbs , protein and fats we require per day.

Every food ( inclusive of your "clean" and "dirty" foods have carbs, protein and fats as well.

If you need x amount of carbs, protein and fats for this particular meal, and x amount of pizza can fulfill that requirement, why is that a bad idea?

At the end of the day, the macros of the x amount of pizza will equal to whatever amount of brown rice, almond and chicken breast that you wanted to eat at that meal.

I'm saying as long as the food fulfills your macros requirement, you can have it. I get where you're coming from, about bad food vs good food. In this context however, we would go in the different types of fats there is, saturated,unsaturated, trans fat. As of now, only trans fat has been proven to be detrimental to one's health condition. So for foods that contains high amounts of trans fat, yeah, bad food in my book as well.

No one is asking anyone to eat your daily calories from only fried food or pizza. But there's no harm in having things in moderation for as long as they fulfil what you require.

What I meant is explained above. I'm on my phone now, so I may not be explaining everything. Just enough to Answer dear uncle for now


Nah bro, I dont lift weights, I have a shitty physique, I guess the only people qualified to give nutritional advice are mr olympias right? Since they're all so jacked and shredded on stage.

Am not saying I'm a pro, am just saying, one should not speak in absolution and be a zealot to certain myths and old saying with no basis to it. I am open to new nutritional protocols for as long as there's ample studies proving the validity. While I may not have the physique of a bodybuilder as of now, you are free to google the names of the following , Alan Aragon, layne norton, Eric helms, Alberto Nunez.

Apart from Alan Aragon, all are natural pros and all of them do not practice "dirty" vs "clean" foods.

Try to play nice everyone. It's a forum. Not a flame war field. If you have an opinion, feel free to express it in a proper manner. Everyone can be a douche behind a screen, but let's just keep that nonsense from this section of the forum.

P/s - By eating "dirty foods" only , it is hard that one can fulfil his/her macro requirements. So I'm not saying you're all wrong here uncle, just sayin you don't have to be anal about eating "clean".

This post has been edited by razorboy: Feb 26 2013, 03:13 PM

funny how you 2 classify the examples given as junk food. from the wikipedia:





theres a lot of protein in pizzas and fried chicken, and nasi lemak if u add in some ayam rendang (yummy)

sure its a lot of calories but so long you dont go over you caloric maintenance value you would still lose weight.

junk food from wiki really funny ?
if u need another link for more info about junk food do let me know..

pizza,fried chicken,nasi lemak is very yummy and healthy food then u should eat it everyday then

If you do notice, i was agreeing with you

What i meant by junk food is like chips, and other snacks.

I'm certainly not saying eating pizza = Junk food

lol, chill bro, because in ur post u were saying you weren't sure what i meant, i was just pointing you toward my explanation. all good

and i do.

well, not everyday la. kinda get bored ya know? i mix it up with kuay teow, maggi, fried rice, etc etc

lol, wait till chris sees this.

Don't worry man.

I eat pizza, ribs and etc too

Find it a bit lazy to keep drinking protein shake non-stop.

But sadly, my body just refused to get fat haha.

junk food ?
this is 1 of controlled lab sponsor athlete -kane sumabat
in fact,Burger,pop tarts,bacons is his daily staple diet

our dear doctor in forum,darklight79 have a similar diet approach to him

so,what say you?

You might want go to google this
IIFYM-If if fit your macros

This post has been edited by theCrab: Feb 26 2013, 07:52 PM

Always eat clean, guys. Remember to wash your food before you eat it.

upload a vid of u washing a donut and eating it. i dare you!

I didn't say I eat clean.

Lol, well said. Like DL said, enjoy life...
Keep eating brown rice, oat everyday... Yarkk, sick of it...

if u think junk food is good then u should stick with it choice is urs since u are like being smart

Did i mentioned junk food here?
count your macros correctly idiot
define clean food for me
or let us see how you looks like since you're having clean meal everyday
you never learn how to count your macros ?
carbs protein fats?dont need to spoonfeed you right ?
why you get so butt-hurt because people get better results by no chewing chicken breast and brown rice like you ?

This post has been edited by theCrab: Feb 27 2013, 10:23 AM

-double post-

This post has been edited by theCrab: Feb 27 2013, 10:22 AM

why u so butt-hard insisted that as junk food?


by the way, double check wiki definition:

Junk foods typically contain high levels of calories from sugar or fat with little protein, vitamins or minerals. Foods commonly considered junk foods include salted snack foods, gum, candy, sweet desserts, fried fast food, and sugary carbonated beverages

Many foods such as hamburgers, pizza, and tacos can be considered either healthy or junk food depending on their ingredients and preparation methods with the more highly processed items usually falling under the junk food category.

What is and is not junk food can also depend on the person's class and social status, with wealthier people tending to have a broader definition while lower-income consumers may see fewer foods as junk food, especially certain ethnic foods.



well, if u keep insist believe it so, go for it.

i are enjoying my "junk food" then.yummy...

someone is angry now

what u eat , no one care pls don tell me...i dont want it to know..even i know also not important for me
idiot ? then u must retard
look,since u r smarter then me keep explain everything...why dont u show us some picture

This post has been edited by cute&cool: Feb 27 2013, 12:54 PM

I request a photo from you cause you seems like you eating clean everyday
where is your photo now moron ?

Very interesting train of thought here.

You called someone a retard, and then say hes smarter than you. So what does it make you?

none of ur business , dont be a busybody

why should i show u ?
not worth show to ppl like u... this bad attitude..

delete

This post has been edited by cute&cool: Feb 27 2013, 03:27 PM

delete-

This post has been edited by cute&cool: Feb 27 2013, 03:28 PM

now who is being rude at 1st?

u are smart ass...why u ask me ?

You. I am politely asking you to leave this section if you are just coming in here to show attitude. You're being very obnoxious here.

George Carlin - "Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Just leave it gus, don't need to let it get to you emotionally. Just point out enough so that newbies won't get misled. Anything else is a waste of precious personal time.

How do you guys buy your supplements anyway?
What's the usual process?
Coz I've never bought anything online before.
Was considering GNC coz they have a store but it seems that it's way overpriced.

Place an order. Make the payment. Wait for it to arrive.

hahahahahaha totally made my day.


i thank you, sir.

Where do you order from, if i may ask?

Foreign would commonly be bodybuilding.com for their cheap shipping (sea freight - longer wait), and iherb.com for their wide selection of non bb supplements

Locally, http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1783620

thanks!

You better put that in bold and huge fonts cos it sounds complicated for beginners.

im give my opinion and command in this forum...if u doesn't like it u can just ignore it...

and I am politely sharing with you info about there's not dirty/clean food
but you get butt-hurt and ask me to go eat my own junk food,you call that a comment and opinion?
you dont like you can ignore but you're calling me a smart ass here lol what?

u like junk food so much..no ? u are really smarter then me so i call u smart ass

damm smart...

The pros here are trying with good intention here to educate you on the common misconceptions about junk food, and yet you just brush it off like some dirt. Not only that, you start criticising them. By the way, they're not providing their opinion, they're writing FACTS. COLD, HARD, VERIFIABLE FACTS.

This post has been edited by DT1: Feb 28 2013, 01:13 AM

bro i give up on him
I am not saying pizza all days,burger all days are good
its all bout calories,macros
eat if it fits your macros
and eat moderately

but this guy take it so far .

Exactly. Nobody is saying eat KFC and McDonald's all day, every day. We're saying you CAN eat those foods and not worry about it screwing up your diet if you are able to fit it into your macros. You don't need to eat brown rice, chicken and broccoli all the time.

He lives up to his username lol.

HE HAS COMMAND OVER THIS SECTION. HOW DARE YOU TO ARGUE WITH HIM. PROSTRATE THYSELVES IN THE GLORY THAT IS CUTE AND COOL

Actually i'm normally quite rude to idiots like you but your mom was telling me to ask you politely since she was having a McDonald Happy Meal with me. Her treat la. She read your post and she asked me to tell you she's very unhappy with you and that you have to come home and finish your leftover pizza.

*grab my pringles*
No no no

Pringles is junkie..

*grab macademia nut instead*

Sit back and watch show

Wait..need cute&cool to clarify if macademia nuts is junk food..

is he GodTier of a different account

No, don think so. If Godtier, he sure keep criticalism with his own "theory".. Lol

If its salted its junk food

His mom says no. She'll grab your pringles tho'. Careful. That woman can eat. She's very disappointed in her son.

Oh no..thats mean everywhere is full of junk!
Steak is junk.. spaghetti is junk.. fish ans chip is junk! Dorsett cereals is junk(got sodium and preserved fruits)
Prawn noodle is junk... abalone! Sea cucumber! Fish maw! Shark fin! My god all these years I been eating junk..

Where is the "one-who-knows-all"? Please enlighten me!

Perhaps I need to write a letter to academic de toulouse France, seeking for reconfirmations on all the above.. all I've studied in food science is gone!!! Oh nooooooo!!!!

This post has been edited by janson_kaniaz: Mar 1 2013, 05:55 PM

well said..

thecrab oh not..is thecrap how dare u ask me to go away...are u leader ? thats really funny when i read it..
how can u simply judge people like that..i feel really sad for ur parent...
i also can said then u may look like shit in reality
oh well , may i know when i delete my post ? i takut ?

post was gone not sure why..
fine then i'll repeat again...otherwise u said im takut
so fast give up ? ithough u have lot of nutrition knowledge to share with ?
u should take those crap as ur daily diet until u become kane sumabat
lastly, ur name should be thecrap..sound more suitable for you

Bro. Your mom told me to tell you she wants a takeaway double cheeseburger later.

It's like a b&b forum dejavu again.

Speaking of the devil. there's a double cheese burger right above my post

This post has been edited by chiahau: Mar 1 2013, 09:33 PM

I just feel like this pic is definitely appropriate here. No hatin!