Forget teana. Trust me. Come join us. M6 if book now still got chance to have it in march.

Teana 2.0 is just as bad as Camry 2.0, and worse than Camry 2.5 (albeit only slightly). Teana 2.5 is better, similar level as Passat, Mondeo, 508, C5, Mazda 6.

Are you sure you want to buy that overpriced piece of junk metal?
Since you mentioned very frequent travel to outstation, don't risk your life by driving that junk!
Read this [thread & report] to know more about IIHS small-overlap crash test done on 2012-13 Toyota Camry.








Photos credit to:


Slippery road after rain + corner + speeding + no VSC = KABOOM!
The RHS fender and strut assembly wracked. Likely oversteer and crashed at lower speed.
If crashed at higher speed, driver's legs definitely gone!



The new IIHS small-overlap crash test set new standard for safety and really eye opening.
TS, please make wise decision!

I don't think it will be much better safety features compare to Camry.

If talks about the safety features, Suzuki Kizashi and New Mazda 6 pawn both of them (of course other conti brand as well), beside the usual ABS, EBD & BA, Suzuki Kizashi 2.4l and Mazda 6 2.0l had 6 airbags + ESP + TC as well.

Suzuki Kizashi base spec even cheaper than Camry 2.0E, just that the car size is smaller compare to the rivals, and it did pass the new IIHS small overlap test compare against Camry (see result posted by bubble ring).

Mazda 6 is using new engine "Skyactiv", unlike other conti brand that use turbocharger to boost the engine power, this engine is still a normal NA engine, but the compression ratio had been increased and using petrol direct injection (the injector head is inside the engine cylinder instead of putting near the intake valve of the engine) to increase the fuel efficiency of the engine.

Just go to test drive the Teana and I'm sure you will be amazed by this car. And if not mistaken, the Teana 2.0 safety feature is just the same as Camry 2.5, 2 airbags, EBD, ABS and BA. If you are looking for more safety features, then 2.5 is the best bet, 6 airbags, VDC, ABS, EBD, BA, Blind spot warning radar system.

The Teana 2.0 is same as Camry 2.0, the 2.5 has 4 airbags.

No point to buy to the car had offerred 2.5/3.0V6 and grab the smaller CC of 2.0L to present you're the boss who seat inside of D-Segment car and suffer about the weight with FC.

When not enough money to afford an going the lower models such as Civic, Altis, Elantra, Sylphy still alot to suit as you need.

This is the first time I heard such comment!!!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2702044&hl=

Sadly, many Malaysians do not see the importance of Stability Control:

http://www.paultan.org/2012/06/27/esp-stab...-in-their-cars/


This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Feb 22 2013, 01:29 PM

Sorry this is my point of view.

Cause most of ppls will asking about specs & FC.

Forget it of my comments ke ke.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 22 2013, 01:42 PM

i hv just cancelled my booking of camry 2.0g. will wait a while and check out mazda 6 or may wait for honda 2013.
I don't hv urgency to change car,just my current car is already 9 years old, want to change a new one, that all.

thanks all for the input.

Great decision! Never rush into any purchase especially at this price range.

I would suggest you drive them all. That is Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Ford Mondeo, Peugeot 508, Citroen C5, VW Passat, Mazda 6, Kia K5, Hyundai Sonata. You should be able to exclude cars you don't like, and find the ones worth considering. Maybe you'll see that one of the less common ones is exactly what you want. So much so that you'll be willing to go through a bit of trouble, lower RV (in the D segment the differences aren't so big), etc. Or you'll think the Camry is exactly what you want, possible too, in any case later you will hopefully not regret your decision, because you have been throughout.

I have seen someone who bought a Vios, and later regretted it because the Fiesta is so much more what he wants.

good decision, 2.0E enough liao. not worth add the money for G model.

Heres a link for discussion of all major d segment excluding korean car. D segment
This might help u
Im glad u dont choose camry. Wait for m6 or accord instead!

Probably only in Malaysia a car the size of Camry/Accord/Teana etc. can be sold like peanuts with just those little 2.0 NA 4 cyl. engines! Thanks to ridiculous Malaysia road tax regulation I guess.

Ahem, no?

Ford Mondeo Ecoboost 1.0... yes, it has a turbo, but still, 1.0 3 cylinder. In the highest tune it has around 120 hp. The Passat has a 1.4 with 122 hp. Yes, you can top up and get more powerful engines, but standard engine is that 1.4. I guess the most popular engine in the Passat though is the 105 hp 1.6 TDI. And yes, this is Germany. The country where 50% of the highways have no speed limit, and people drive that way. Most people IMHO drive around 140, including small underpowered ones. Or big underpowered ones. I usually drive around 140-150 with a 75 hp C segment car. I don't think many top up to get stronger engines. The most powerful petrol engine you can have in the D segment Toyota Avensis has 152 hp. And yes, that's a 2.0.

WHAT ON EARTH DO YOU NEED 150 OR 180 HP FOR?! In Malaysia?! The country of the slowpokes. Where the speed limit is 110, people are usually way below the speed limit (rather than always above) and accelerate slower than turtles. Heck, I'm driving a brick wall with 75 hp here, and usually outaccelerate others, and usually I'm the one flashing my headlights trying to get past someone blocking the right lane. With a car as aerodynamic as your average kitchen cabinet. For the speeds I see on Malaysian roads the 1.2 liter engine from the Proton Savvy would be more than enough in D segment cars.

Hahaha, naah I would never want to own such underpowered cars! What on earth do I need 150 or 180HP for in Malaysia? Well now I'm driving >200HP 2.5ltr car everyday, already red line it many2 times (which means using the max 200HP already, right?). Now already feel bored and slow with it, and a bit regretting why I did not buy something really fast like an Evo 9 instead! Later I'm planning to search for piggy back to at least add a bit of kick to it to keep it interesting once again. I guess power is addictive, at least for me. Heck if I don't think of other more important priorities, I'd supercharged my car too and add 50% more power!

I guess the Germans are bit odd too eh. For Malaysia, I'm quite sure the stupid road tax plays a big part in shaping up people's mind here in choosing cars (big cars with smaller engines). Heck I my self if not for that stupid road tax would have opted for >3.0ltr car if going for NA engine! It does affected my choice a bit, it does not change my mind and opinion though. If not for that, quite sure those underpowered cars would not sell that well here. Like in Indonesia, there's NO Accord/Camry/Teana/CRV/X-Trail 2.0 even offered on sale! This despite the hellish traffic jams in Jakarta which makes jams here just like peanuts/kids play!

Well anyway people have their own preferences. I'm not here to stop anyone buying any cars be it underpowered, ugly, or whatever, it's not my money anyway.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Feb 23 2013, 12:05 AM

slap t or H badge..voila 'good' car already. i dont hate jap brand 100%..have to agree with their reliability but pls appreciate consumer better. give more and better spec. our roadtax structure..price bracket is different from overseas. for instance, in oz 308 turbo price more or less toyota 86..cheaper than pug 508. but in msia they pun 86 as if it's rare performance car. wtf~

Road tax increases with cc in most countries in this world I guess. Europe is no exception. Big cc means spend big. And there the fuel consumption is much more important as petrol and diesel is heavily taxed.

The reason why French car makers were never offering powerful cars was that big cc cars were taxed very heavily, so that no one would buy them. 2.5 liter is quite excessive in a D segment car.

Why do Germans buy the not so powerful versions? Simple, you think everyone is rich? Taxes are higher, and you can spend RM 40k more for the same Passat, just with a bigger engine (the rest stays exactly the same). The entry level engine, or maybe one level up is more than enough to drive fast. Maybe they are more willing to touch the accelerator than Malaysians? The underspec'ed cars here wouldn't sell there though. 6 airbags are expected as a minimum on a B segment car, ESP of course too. A D segment car that is as ridiculously dangerous as the Japanese ones sold here couldn't sell. Or cars that handle as poor as some of the Japanese ones here. You should be able to drive at least 150-200 without almost losing control due to the poor handling and steering. Don't know, maybe people here are more obsessed with numbers and the way how powerful the engine feels when you touch the accelerator only slightly?

Anyway, how fast are you driving that you redline that car? Because most people in Malaysia drive annoyingly slow.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Feb 23 2013, 04:33 AM