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camry 2.0g, Camry 2.0g issue
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BravoZeroTwo
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Jul 15 2013, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 15 2013, 12:54 PM) It is best to expect the worst, and prepare for it. It is good to constantly backup you data to different locations (just in case there is a robbery, your house burns down, ...). That doesn't mean you hope for something bad to happen, but it is good to be safe. The same thing applies to cars. There are models that are safe for a car of that price range, and there are models that aren't. The Camry falls in the latter category. It thus makes sense to prepare for the worst. Malaysians are good at that when it comes to resale value, but they seem to value their money more than their life. Being badly injured/dead can also mean huge financial losses. Just face it. Anything can happen on our roads, regardless of how you drive. You can fall asleep at 80 on the motorway. A good car will notice and wake you up and ask you to find somewhere to sleep. A not so good car will simply do nothing and you'll end up in a car crash. Which, in a car with poor passenger protection is more deadly than in a reasonable safe car. And in any case it will be expensive. The resale value of a totaled car, Toyota or not, will be poor. I'm not affiliated with any car company. I'm just sharing my thoughts. You have a point here but who wants to take the lead ? How good is their after sales service or even at point of contact ?
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kadajawi
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Jul 15 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ Jul 15 2013, 12:01 PM) You have a point here but who wants to take the lead ? How good is their after sales service or even at point of contact ? There are always up- and downsides to everything. It depends on the brand, but there are plenty to choose from that do offer reasonably safe cars. Personally I'd rather be willing to deal with not so good after sales service than with being crippled or dead. To me that is worse, and it is worth giving up some convenience. Also don't forget: the safety of a car won't improve during ownership. You can upgrade the seat upholstery, improve NVH, change the head unit, and the service can be improved by the distributor. But safety no.
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feelfree
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Jul 15 2013, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 15 2013, 12:22 PM) There are always up- and downsides to everything. It depends on the brand, but there are plenty to choose from that do offer reasonably safe cars. Personally I'd rather be willing to deal with not so good after sales service than with being crippled or dead. To me that is worse, and it is worth giving up some convenience. Also don't forget: the safety of a car won't improve during ownership. You can upgrade the seat upholstery, improve NVH, change the head unit, and the service can be improved by the distributor. But safety no. Dude, actually you can add more safety features for a car, like add VDC, airbag.... last time I didn't know got such people doing such thing, but now seem like there is really got such service. But the most important thing is not all car can add such features, like Myvi it base model do not have any VDC, then so sorry, add VDC is impossible. But like Camry, it is actually got VDC, but last time UMW taken it out, so Camry want to add the VDC features is possible, but have to make sure the Camry come with ABS, EBD, BA then VDC just need to add a sensors near the rear wheel suspension and a VDC module only.
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kadajawi
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Jul 15 2013, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jul 15 2013, 12:32 PM) Dude, actually you can add more safety features for a car, like add VDC, airbag.... last time I didn't know got such people doing such thing, but now seem like there is really got such service. But the most important thing is not all car can add such features, like Myvi it base model do not have any VDC, then so sorry, add VDC is impossible. But like Camry, it is actually got VDC, but last time UMW taken it out, so Camry want to add the VDC features is possible, but have to make sure the Camry come with ABS, EBD, BA then VDC just need to add a sensors near the rear wheel suspension and a VDC module only. Even if that is possible it is a massive undertaking, and other parts of the car may have been downgraded that we do not know of. Especially in terms of airbags... it is a complicated system where for example the seatbelt system needs to be designed in a way to work together with the airbag so that system works. VDC sounds the most likely feature that can be upgraded, yes. But anyone offering that service?
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EP6CDTM
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Jul 15 2013, 01:48 PM
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besides doing 10km/L on the 2.0L NA compared to 12-13km/L on recent contis,
i cannot see anything better on the god car
fyi, RM3k drive shaft and RM1.5k absorbers anyone?
what about RM2.2k rear light cluster?
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BravoZeroTwo
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Jul 15 2013, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 15 2013, 02:48 PM) besides doing 10km/L on the 2.0L NA compared to 12-13km/L on recent contis, i cannot see anything better on the god car fyi, RM3k drive shaft and RM1.5k absorbers anyone? what about RM2.2k rear light cluster? Which car are you referring to ?
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SUSskyblu3
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Jul 15 2013, 03:25 PM
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Whatever la! Toyota Camry and Vios is the best!
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EP6CDTM
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Jul 15 2013, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 15 2013, 03:25 PM) Whatever la! Toyota Camry and Vios is the best!
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SUSskyblu3
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Jul 15 2013, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 15 2013, 01:48 PM) besides doing 10km/L on the 2.0L NA compared to 12-13km/L on recent contis, i cannot see anything better on the god car fyi, RM3k drive shaft and RM1.5k absorbers anyone? what about RM2.2k rear light cluster? Rm3K...Rm1.5K...Rm2.2K, so? Why worry? Won't spoil one...why worry?
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EP6CDTM
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Jul 15 2013, 03:27 PM
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yup. see my expression above
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SUSskyblu3
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Jul 15 2013, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 1 2013, 12:51 PM) So safety isnt important to you as well eh? Or are you one of the many who thinks that 'as long as i drive safely then im gonna be safe'? I would expect the older generation with limited access to the internet and very fixed old mentality to still go for the Camry. So, if ure one of those then yes the Camry would be the best car for you. Its because of ppl like you that Toyota can still sell that crap Camry with such poor specs at such high prices in Malaysia and ASEAN. Thats why when UMW removed the stability control system in the Camry, they had the guts to say that the Malaysian public didnt ask for it. Was also scary seeing the Camry fail the IIHS small overlap crash test so badly with the front driver's airbag & steering system a total design failure. But im sure all this wont matter to ppl like you who are are only concerned about resale value and service. But dont worry. Toyota's share of the pie in Malaysia is getting less and less every year thanks to the more informed younger generation who are beginning to see that Toyota aint Gods anymore. Now there are much better spec'd and designed cars than Toyota out there offering more value for money products that the overpriced aging dinosours that Toyota still produce. So yes please continue to support Toyota. You are a dying breed in Malaysia.  Driving conti cars safe? Waiting by the roadside (especially late at night) for the tow truck....safe? Not scared robbers stopping by to rob you?
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EP6CDTM
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Jul 15 2013, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 15 2013, 03:29 PM) Driving conti cars safe? Waiting by the roadside (especially late at night) for the tow truck....safe? Not scared robbers stopping by to rob you?
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cy97
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Jan 24 2015, 06:10 PM
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Recently my friend get robbed by hit and Rob gang. His Toyota carry was banged from behind, when he stop n get out of car to inspect the damages, he was robbed by three Indian robbers coming out of the car that banged his car. Hand phone, wallet everything including the car was robbed. Luckily? The car was a company car.
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