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post Nov 27 2013, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 27 2013, 08:26 AM)
We are famous for NOT doing feasibility study !!
PKFZ was feasible ? Submarine feasible ? Feedlot feasible ? indelible ink feasible ? 

I can tell you today, building an undersea tunnel to SG from Johore would help the economy better then this project.

People in KL don't need to take train to SG.
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Normal people might not. But businessmen do.

Imagine travelling from KLCC to Singapore CBD direct without the hassle of passport controls, waiting for baggages and other inconvinience due to air travel.

KL and Singapore will both benefit for this project.
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 27 2013, 09:24 AM)
Normal people might not. But businessmen do.

Imagine travelling from KLCC to Singapore CBD direct without the hassle of passport controls, waiting for baggages and other inconvinience due to air travel.

KL and Singapore will both benefit for this project.
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you mean NO PASSPORT and LUGGAGE check ??

hmmmm ... starting smuggling business NOW. !! ohmy.gif
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 27 2013, 09:40 AM)
you mean NO PASSPORT and LUGGAGE check ??

hmmmm ... starting smuggling business NOW. !!  ohmy.gif
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Their passport probably by biometric system, baggage would be way faster because you don't have to unload baggage from airplane.

Aside from costs, I don't see the downside from this project.

Malaysia needs to tap into Singapore MNC HQs for business opportunities. Singaporeans need more space to live.

I would be happy with the HSR project
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:45 AM

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Malaysian trains give me goosebumps
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post Nov 27 2013, 10:15 AM

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We did a 2billion electric rail project ... look how "benefit" that project was !!

now we gonna do a 40billion speed rail ... brows.gif
i just want their fencing project enough already !!
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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 27 2013, 10:15 AM)
We did a 2billion electric rail project ... look how "benefit" that project was !!

now we gonna do a 40billion speed rail ...  brows.gif
i just want their fencing project enough already !!
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U will cause me pay higher GST. .egrrhh

40 billion ! wonder how much they would charge per ticket to recover the ROI ??

Probably another Monorail project where only the builders earn while operator losses, meaning need to pay more "patriotic tax"..$&@?/
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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 27 2013, 07:51 AM)
Question ...

Why would you want to take a train to Singapore for ?
ain't our existing plane working fine ?  whistling.gif

how many people actually travelled between SG and KL ?  doh.gif

Better just used this project money to get city public transport up.
That provide better return for the city folk in comparison to the SG KL traveller.
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You've got to think out of the box, bro. The possibilities if this comes to fruition are immense. Distance will no longer become a hindrance. MNCs and Companies will not be hindered and can locate their set up more efficiently. For example, you can locate warehousing, production or service centers in KL while maintaining engineering and rnd in Spore so as to be more cost effective. Having a meeting in KL and going back to office in Spore within same day becomes a possibility. How about staying in KV and working in Spore? Those are just a couple of examples.
I'm sure the more imaginative ones will come out with more.
In any case, you mentioned about city transportation, what about the MRT rollout?
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i do travel from KL-SG frequently and usually for meetings and short trips. Making my move via plane all the time is a hassle actually in Msia, it takes longer time to just checkin and load baggage. Was hoping the railway in future would lighten things up and produce a better and more efficient lead time. So i would just purchase my ticket and then hop in on time.
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post Nov 27 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(zonefinder @ Nov 27 2013, 12:01 PM)
You've got to think out of the box, bro. The possibilities if this comes to fruition are immense. Distance will no longer become a hindrance. MNCs and Companies will not be hindered and can locate their set up more efficiently. For example, you can locate warehousing, production or service centers in KL while maintaining engineering and rnd in Spore so as to be more cost effective. Having a meeting in KL and going back to office in Spore within same day becomes a possibility. How about staying in KV and working in Spore? Those are just a couple of examples.
I'm sure the more imaginative ones will come out with more.
In any case, you mentioned about city transportation, what about the MRT rollout?
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currently, allot of office in singapore having factory and warehouse in johor.
there is still same at johor they can get banglasia to do the works.. because cheaper permit compare with sg.
hence no point set up warehouse in kl
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post Nov 27 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(T_flash @ Nov 26 2013, 11:45 PM)
Any news on the location for KL station?
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many different rumours .. Sentul, KL Sentral, Cheras KL .. south city plaza pula sweat.gif imho, next to impossible

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QUOTE(akh731 @ Nov 27 2013, 12:19 PM)
currently, allot of office in singapore having factory and warehouse in johor.
there is still same at johor they can get banglasia to do the works.. because cheaper permit compare with sg.
hence no point set up warehouse in kl
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Running a biz is not just about getting Banglasia workers ( cannot get in KL meh?). Its about logistics, close proximity to customers, suppliers, communications, facilities etc. KL has other pros which Johore doesn't have eg common weekends drool.gif Anyway, the point here is that HSR will break down the distance barrier which in the past is seen as a hindrance. It will bring the whole area between KV and Spore closer and smaller. Johore, Malacca and NS will similarly enjoy the same benefits. whistling.gif
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so anyone has the latest update on where will be the stop in KL ? TRX, Sentral, TBS ? thanks ya
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QUOTE(forever1979 @ Nov 27 2013, 12:57 PM)
so anyone has the latest update on where will be the stop in KL ? TRX, Sentral, TBS ? thanks ya
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Kl Sentral & TBS with highest chances...
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post Nov 27 2013, 02:31 PM

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Thought it is not a news that it would be at Bandar Malaysia?
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post Nov 27 2013, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Nov 27 2013, 12:30 PM)
many different rumours .. Sentul, KL Sentral, Cheras KL .. south city plaza pula  sweat.gif imho, next to impossible
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its possible becoz have huge land buffer there for integrated station of KLIA express + HSR
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post Nov 27 2013, 02:47 PM

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There are too many barriers for the HSR. It will eventually happen but probably not next 20 years. Every land owner will just jack up their land price after the confirmation of the stations and track location, making it economically infeasible to implement.

RTS is more beneficial because it can shift workers economically from Johor to Singapore and shoppers from Singapore to Johor. The land issue is mostly settled.
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post Nov 27 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 27 2013, 02:36 PM)
its possible becoz have huge land buffer there for integrated station of KLIA express + HSR
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Bukit Beruntung also got huge land buffer laugh.gif what I trying to say is many places got, have to take other things into considerations

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post Nov 27 2013, 03:03 PM

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wait until all the dato, friend and family member buy the strategic land first.

then only announce ... 40bil budget over run to 80bil ... buy from ownself ... i rich you poor !
usual trick lah ... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ecin @ Nov 27 2013, 03:01 PM)
Bukit Beruntung also got huge land buffer laugh.gif what I trying to say is many places got, have to take other things into considerations
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but bukit beruntung dont have existing KLIA express line. But serdang have the line but no station for it.

If not, i can go KLIA using the train instead of taking expensive cab
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post Nov 27 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 27 2013, 03:03 PM)
wait until all the dato, friend and family member buy the strategic land first.

then only announce ... 40bil budget over run to 80bil ... buy from ownself ... i rich you poor !
usual trick lah ...  tongue.gif
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yeah, that's true, this is how was things in the past .....

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