appreciate it if you could elaborate the above mentioned in a proper / understandable words.. I couldn't catch your point..

Half leather is typically a cut-cost action/cut-cost strategy for most budget brand or entry level model car to give interior a sumptuous look for minimum cost to attract buyers. Half leather of construction will be genuine leather material upholstered on frequently touched and seating surface. Headrest will be front leather only. Elsewhere like rear, sides, seat pockets will be made of PVC (synthetic material which mimics the look and texture of genuine leather). Some car manufacturer like Toyota will call it "leather combination interior" to make it sound like less cheap impression. Just take a look at the current new Toyota Vios G spec in showroom.

Semi-leather will be 1/4 genuine leather part of whole seat with mixture of let's say leather or alcantara with 75% of fabric material as found in most sports bucket seats.

Full leather. Well, the words are already self explanatory. Seats everywhere 100% front, side, rear,hidden area and door panel padded will be cladded with genuine leather which found in more expensive cars.

For leather material itself, it has 2 types for car seats and upholstery. Grained leather and Napa leather. Grained leather has its textured and expensive looks to it and it can be customised to make it wrinkled for it's thick, luxury look and rich feel. Napa is soft and supple to the touch without alot rough texture for clean cut and smooth finish (think of it as leather wallet).

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Mar 2 2013, 12:53 AM

my car FC started to be frugal at 13k km onwards alongside with more refined engine power and revving noise compared when it is still new and fresh..

my car sudah "adult" edi..

don't be too disappointed Ah Bennedict kor.. Forte in worldwide started to hold its contender liao. no doubt Corolla and Civic had come a long way for few decades but Forte wins alot of hearts for its good looking, fun to drive, ride more refined than let's say prev gen Civic. We will see that K3 soon will be the top position in overall than anything Japanese.

Kia has done well recently for their Sportage, Rio and now K3.

Congrats blunderboy.. !! must teach her to call me Uncle Bear

No la.. Blunderdaddy

why need so thick.. ? mine 6 mil after 1 year usage can see abit of vertical fine scratches on my tinting.. caused by window up and down at least 5 times a week..

Just wanna buy a good FC car.. ? sorry to say that Forte main selling point is not about frugal FC..

you wanna good FC car for city and highway, B-Segment aka subcompact sedan or small hatch like Fiesta and Swift is way to go.. but you will sacrifice on power, comfort and space..

bigger car smth like mid sized sedan ie: Mazda3, Corolla Altis, Forte, Civic will drinks more fuel which you may won't categorize it as "good" FC car like u expecting from Perodua Myvi/Viva FC's pattern. Mid size sedan drinks more fuel than B segments because of bigger engine, larger body size, larger rims and wider tires, heavier kerb weight..

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Mar 4 2013, 07:24 PM

his mercun tiap-tiap hari ada punya.. not just CNY ada stock.. he said wan..

i wanna tell you smth leh.. you are really lookalike your avatar mouse pic.. hahaha
jkjk..

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my personal testing and survey confirmed BHP got best balance of strongest/quickest acceleration response and smoothness with engine quietness, but slightly higher FC than Petronas. Caltex and Shell gave me poor FC, sluggish power and loud engine noise when accelerating.. (Forte, Vios, M5, Corolla Altis, Focus, Golf GTI, Estima)

so, let's boycott Caltex and Cap Kerang togeder-geder

I can confirm Petronas gives the most mileage. Reasonable pick up strength but less refinement to the engine while accelerating. I let my friend in Penang drove my previous Vios before he pumped RM10 RON95 (RM1.90/l) can go ulang alik mainland and island for 2 and half time 110km (BHP estimate 100km max).. yes Vios is a very fuel saving small sedan..

So far my Forte tried only Caltex, Cap Kerang and by default BHP. Not planning to try Petronas coz it will make the car engine sounds rough and noisy at higher revs.

1.6 is enough in town driving but suffers insufficient torque issue of carrying 1,300kg of Compact to Midsize body size on highway while pick-up or overtaking. If you driven Vios or Ford Fiesta before, Forte 1.6 got 15% less power than both above mentioned..

difference 4 and 6 speed version is the gearshift knob and plastic housing design, 6 speed got LED side signal lamp with electric folding, rear view camera with screen built-in rear view mirror and 6 speed only comes with normal silver, titanium silver, and normal white.. 4 speed got red and black colour..

I see.. not many Caltex station around my place.. any other brand u tried before with Forte.. ?

majority foreseen pull left steering alignment when bought new (can be solved at good outside tayar shop) and minor rattling sound on dash (not my case, I got very soft squeaky noise at driver seat when I purposely lean back very kuat), warm plastic at cupholder..

forget about used car 4 speed Forte and get the 6 speed version which has upgraded insulation material all around for less NVH and faster acceleration due to quicker gear change from its 6 different gear ratios.

yes both is enough to identify their different version.. Naza Kia phased out 4 speed model d la.. no need so takut lor..

2.0 has 6 airbags, cruise control and half leather upholstery which is the one u should go for if you've higher allocated budget (RM97k otr, RM379 annual roadtax, FC RM50 avg. 230km mileage)..

I live in Cheras / KL most busy roads.. hence the high FC..

in comparison avg FC with other cars I owned..
current Forte 2.0 10-10.5liter/100km
Vios 7.8liter/100km
Swift 7.5liter/100km
Corolla Altis 1.8 4speed 9.5liter/100km
Waja 4G18P 9liter/100km
M5 E39 21liter/100km

considering Forte 2.0 slightly more FC than its competitors which makes up for its value for money asking price and tonnes of features, you are cheating yourself by overlooking Forte as a choice of your daily use car

and btw, most significant words of wisdom of the day.. Forte drives much better than overpriced tin kosong Corolla Altis despite both cars are in same class. Forte 2.0 engine and acceleration is more quicker and powderful than latest Corolla Altis 2.0 CVT too.. hopefully there is no Toyota fanboy gonna butthurt here..

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Mar 10 2013, 12:14 PM

if you still overlooked /ignore the Forte provided its obvious value for money car to buy with lots of safety / goodies features and good ride quality but you're still go for "safe choice" overpriced T and H brand, means you are just cheating yourself. Am I clear enough.. ?

if you like K3 looks and overall, just wait..
if you are in urgent to own a car for ur work / etc, just start looking around for options from now..

as mentioned by others before, K3 predicted to be priced around 92k for lowest spec.. 110k for self-parking assist feature and other luxury amenities like ambient illumination auto lamp shines on road from bottom side mirrors when night time, sunroof, dual zone A/C, colour LCD info screen at instrument cluster etc

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Mar 10 2013, 12:53 PM

I think most minimum for 2.0SX 6 speed year 2011 from used car dealer is 72-75k.. 65k is 1.6SX 2011.. still not many Forte 2011 production in used car market to-date.. good luck in searching..

This post has been edited by Ah_Bear: Mar 10 2013, 12:38 PM