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post Aug 12 2016, 10:56 PM

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Oh I forgot to add, what is a couple of percentage less, when after death the believers get to spend an eternity with 72 virgins.

p/s Their holy book never mention what sort of virgin brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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post Sep 5 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(killeralta @ Sep 4 2016, 10:34 PM)
Im sure the islamic fund will do well, who dare to make the majority rage on the first year it self, heck I'm more scared they might divert the earning from normal epf to the islamic causing the normal epf to have a lower dividend
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This is purely speculative and show your ignorant about shariah finance. The shariah operator will want to separate the funds at arms length, because they want to keep their money clean from defilement element such as money that comes from haran activities, such as, gambling, liquor business, interest bearing money instruments etc.

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post Sep 7 2016, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(kpfun @ Sep 7 2016, 08:22 AM)
Do you believe, if I tell you, many allocated fund from the government to the religious bodies, were not used appropriately. If not, talk to the suppliers or contactors who had provided services to them.

In a real world, the title and the action, are separated in practice.

I am very doubt about Tabung Haji of their ability of issuing 5+3 in 2015 dividend.
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I neither believe nor disbelieve. I choose to remain impartial.

Without irrefutable evidence, this is plainly kopitiam talk. If got irrefutable evidence, then the whistle-blower should be talking to MACC, not at LYN forum.

My above original post is to inform that the Syariah Finance's theory, that is the funds cannot co-mingle with non-halal source. It "contaminate: the halalness. A proper operator would ensure that the two funds does not co-mingle. If the operator does not, either willfully or through negligence then it is between him / her and his / her GOD!

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post Sep 13 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Sep 13 2016, 01:07 AM)
i try not to~~but on and off the feelings come...lol....hoping for the best..or just dont bother...
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wise men say worry those that you are in control so that you may change it and get a good sleep.

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post Oct 3 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(nanan75 @ Oct 2 2016, 08:12 PM)
Is one allowed to keep his savings in epf even after he retires at 55, with the intent of drawing only dividend annually?

Its hard to find 6+% annual returns passively.
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Hard or not is subjective.

But if one were to participate as an unit-holder into one of these UTF for the past ten years, his money would have grown minimally 7.88% per annum to a maximum of 17.16% per annum.

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post Oct 21 2016, 11:26 AM

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Not long ago, the current KWSP CEO Sharil said that the dividend rate will be benchmarked as Kadar Inflasi + 2%.

Recently, our government announced that the current national inflation is 2%.

So, based on the above, we expect the Dividend yield to be 2+2 = 4% rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Bersyukurlah! At least we are not being given dedak!

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post Oct 21 2016, 02:50 PM

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Based on the chart supplied by Plumberly,

the chart shows the revenue in 2016 has dropped to the level similar to 2012. If we look back at 2013 dividend rate, which is 6.35% and factoring an early election, the KWSP dividend rate for 2016 should be between 6.00 to 6.50%.

My guess is as such.

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post Dec 7 2016, 02:08 PM

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Speaking of Aust property; for retail investors, you can access it through AM Asia-Pac Ex Japan Reits fund which has 20% exposure to Australia REITS.

If you belong to HNWI category, KAF Australia Islamic Property UTF (shariah compliance feeder fund structure) that has a 95% exposure to Australia property market (direct exposure, not REITs).

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post Jan 17 2017, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jan 17 2017, 04:07 PM)
usually when dividend is declared?
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when one ask a question that was already answered three posts earlier, it makes that person look really really st00p1d not observant.

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post Jan 17 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 17 2017, 06:03 PM)
This usually happens when you read from phone.
Chrome or Android based browser has a button to directly go to "bottom".
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But but but it is like only three post above only wor...... not like three pages ago!
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post Jan 17 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jan 17 2017, 06:18 PM)
Haha, I'm so sorry..
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post Jan 29 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 29 2017, 09:19 PM)
Bumiputras are truly blessed in this country,... I have to spend so much to send my children overseas.
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Blessing or curse? It is all perception.

Friend Hansel, haven't you read in the media? Graduates are now dime a dozen and a high percentage are either unemployed or receiving wages that does not comensurate with their paper qualification.

I am inclined to think that graduates and universities understudies are highly over-rated.

I am now thinking of alternative education pathway for my offspring even though I am a product of the local university pathway. Yup I went the full monty.... SPM ===> STPM ===> local Uni ===> work (salariiman).

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post Feb 8 2017, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Feb 6 2017, 02:13 PM)
I have UT more than 5 yrs now.  Some ok some not so ok.    Should I continue for another 5 yrs ga?  LOL.
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How come like this wan? Mine made money around 8% p.a. Is it because you are with Pub1c Mutu4l Berhad?

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post Feb 19 2017, 08:17 AM

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I log into KWSP ahli i-akaun today and checked.

Si peh beh song ar! Wanna kaw peh kaw bu liao. No mood liao lar! Feels like want to scold the whole darn village alry!

Luckily got my Selina fund wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif to comfort me....

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post Feb 19 2017, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Feb 19 2017, 05:31 PM)
Logged into KWSP acct. Saw the new statement. No doubt 5.7% lower than recent years, but still a happy sight ! Happy with the accumulated amount after all these years.  drool.gif  drool.gif

Thank u KWSP ! rclxms.gif
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Uncle / Auntie / Dato / Datin / Tan Sri / Puan Sri,

Why you so easy to please wan? Tunjuklah sikit muka masam sikit, kasi itu KWSP botak punya CEO know we as customers of KWSP want MOAR! shakehead.gif

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post Jan 23 2018, 10:12 PM

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Korang Malaysia nih, banyak bertuah... rezeki pun manyak.

Tahun baru bos / syarikat kasi bonus.

Kerajaan KWSP pun bagi bonus dividen.

My prediction is 6.75%.

Last year was 6.25% and it was a lousy year. This year KWSP has been harping on how much their investment made etc etc... so it should be 6.75% lah!

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 24 2018, 08:37 AM)
ummmmm

last year was 5.7% on a lousy year  biggrin.gif

5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5

what does it matter?

what can you do?

zilch, nothing, nether........ laugh.gif
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Kasi syiok sendiri only lor!

Last year my KWSP-MIS port ROI is double digit thanks to foreign exposure but long term CAGR is close to 9% p.a. [ five year old port ].

Kasi syiok sendiri my KWSP - MIS port is bettter than KWSP lor.

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post Jan 24 2018, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 24 2018, 02:34 PM)
Didn't know you can invest EPF funds in stocks directly.

There are hundreds of UTs. Only a handful can beat gold's performance. Why bother?
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I made a quick comparison to check / verify your statement.

Gold ETF [ using SPDR Gold ETF as proxy ] made a annualized return of 3.32% p.a. over the last three years.

While I checked Mutual Fund and definitely more than a handful beat Gold performance in the same period. The top performer is 25% p.a. [ United Japan Fund ] for the past three years. Whereas there are 450 Mutual Funds that return above 3.32% p.a. over the past three year on.

450 Mutual Funds is definitely more than a handful.

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p/s I use FSM SG's data.

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post Jan 24 2018, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 24 2018, 02:55 PM)
Why not try last 15 years?
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If I do, will you later say... try 30 years? 60 years? 100 years?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 24 2018, 02:58 PM)
So why 3 years?
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3 years = 252 x 3 = 756 observation points.

NB: 252 trading days per year.

Google Central Limit Theorem. In lay person speak, It states that given a large data set, the mean becomes stable and very close to the population mean.

In lagi layman's / kopitiam apek talk : CLT states that if you have 3 years / 5 years / 10 years, your mean is not going to chance significant.

Hence for active management, 3 years is just nice... not too long that the old data comes in to make the analysis obsolete and not too short to make your analysis short term fire - fighting style, in another word, it is in the Goddilock range.

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