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post Dec 18 2024, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Dec 18 2024, 10:17 AM)
nope. people who already have 1 mil in their epf would not do that. You don't have 1 mil that's why you don't think like a person with 1 mil.

the reason why a person can accumulate 1 mil in their epf because they trust the system and they like the dividends. If they do not trust the system, then long ago they would have diverted their epf monies to other investment vehicles through i-invest.

people with 1 mil also do not desperately need spare cash till they need to withdraw pennies from the excess. If they really do need money then they can always withdraw from account 3, which is 10% of 1 mil i.e. 100k, still a sizeable amount.

in short, there will be absolutely no scenario that people will want to withdraw the excess, epf can raise the limit to 2 mil and these epf millionaires will still happily contribute more into it  smile.gif
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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 18 2024, 10:29 AM)
that's quite well said.
once one reaches sizeable amount of say RM1mil, the snowballing grows much faster.
if one is still an active contributor, chances are the epf amount will grow at 6 digits annually based on own contribution + dividends received. if the person does voluntary contribution, the snowballing grows even faster.

i think some members even grows their epf by 7 digits every 2-3 years or less.
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banyak betul.

i actually still need 1.5 years to contribute to hit 1 mil, but now with 1.3 mil, i will need around 2-3 years max contribution to achieve that, which is fine by me.

1.3 mil gives a passive 6.28k/mth OR 75.4k/ year @ 5.8% average EPF dividend, and the compounding speeds up after that. at 75.4k/ year, i can easily use it to clear my house loan asap, or change a new car every year (just saying).
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post Dec 19 2024, 04:13 AM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 18 2024, 03:38 PM)

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EPF boss, pls share at what age you hit 1 mil, 2 mil.... 5.5 mil drool.gif


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 18 2024, 07:42 PM)
Wow!
5.5 million in EPF now!  thumbup.gif
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post Dec 19 2024, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 19 2024, 10:59 AM)
Maner la boss dapat 5.5mil ni.

I hit 1m in my late 30's, touching 2m now. annually my contribution ranges around 200k a year.

So rough calc, contribution + dividend 330 x 3 = ~990k.

But I intend to FIRE la.
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A good role model for epf fans to follow 😁
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post Dec 19 2024, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 19 2024, 12:49 PM)
Eh no no. 300k is including the estimated dividend.

My self is around 200k. Will be more if I max out my 100k which I don't.

Mine for this year.
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wah, if typical contribution, that is rm70k/ month celery.


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post Dec 20 2024, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Dec 19 2024, 10:18 PM)
Looking forward to 6% dividend this yr.
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now that you bring this up, yes, very timely to talk about this! but we will only know some time in march 2025?
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post Dec 22 2024, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Dec 21 2024, 11:53 PM)
Convention 4.5, Syariah 4.8. coffers empty need to refill cannot give too high.
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this number is spoooky...
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post Dec 22 2024, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Dec 21 2024, 11:46 PM)
6.3% n 5.9%
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 22 2024, 09:07 AM)
So it's Shariah 6.3% n Conv is 5..9% then sadly

Hints: US technology investment portfolio heavy

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i tembak 5.8%
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post Dec 23 2024, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(virtualgay @ Dec 23 2024, 06:40 AM)
I don't think so but epf never share again we can't be 100% sure
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given it's our money, shouldn't they let us know what they invest in?
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post Feb 24 2025, 02:24 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=106619...636579531835354

1st march will announce
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post Feb 24 2025, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 24 2025, 08:32 PM)
KWAP is 12% ohhhh

Don't think can be such high level ROI...

After minus all the expenses, buffer, write-downs etc.

Might be looking around 6% +/-
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Every yr also between 5 and 6. I've never seen something so predictable. Like play pyramid scam... Cough. I'm not saying epf is.

NZ aggressive retirement fund return was 14% last yr. And the return is live. Every day changes. Epf isn't... Only announce after 2 months after the year is over 🤔
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post Feb 24 2025, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 24 2025, 08:51 PM)
That's where's the "buffer" comes in...

In years where fund make less ROI or even losses... The "buffer" $$$ comes to rescue 😔

This one only applicable to Conv type,  Not the other one... Which according to Islamic investment principles... Need to come from "real" income of that financial year....
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If they manipulate data. Why cant it be transparent. It's rakyats money and they should be transparent.
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Feb 24 2025, 11:18 PM)
That NZ fund is probably like a UT structure..the retun is NAV based. The live returns are its NAV movements. Some years can be negative I bet.

Epf is not like that. Epf is fixed price. But if u prefer UT structure u can always withdraw some from EPF into UT under the MIS.Then u can see daily prices.
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EPF is fixed price. Care to explain more.. Why can't release return earlier?
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 25 2025, 08:07 AM)
My guess 6.88%

FART! FART! FART!
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buy what car with this 6.88?
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post Feb 27 2025, 03:56 PM

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6.15%

lai lai mari lai
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post Feb 27 2025, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 27 2025, 04:05 PM)
Highest in 3 years as per source saying all over the place...

Let's see if indeed true or not...

I'm expecting lower around 6% only...
Don't want get disappointed like Last time 😁
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Last yr mmg disappointed. What a shit show.
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post Feb 28 2025, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(kens88` @ Feb 27 2025, 09:46 PM)
I can't remember. Is it next day after announce will credit in? Or they declare another date to credit in?
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same day when system is back online
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post Feb 28 2025, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 28 2025, 11:04 AM)
Yeah. After withdrawing 40% of my EPF and plunking them into SG banks and HSBC, now what to do with the more than 6% gains?  laugh.gif
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Now cannot buy Lexus with epf dividend liao
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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Feb 28 2025, 01:17 PM)
5.8% for conventional.  Keeping the rest (0.4%) for 2027 election year.
Target to save 1% as bonus for 2027.
26/27 economics not so good

Shud be getting 290k @5.8%
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5 mil epf tauke. This one can buy Lexus

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post Feb 28 2025, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 28 2025, 01:29 PM)
I actually bought a Toyota Prado already.  laugh.gif  More practical car in Sabah.
Maybe i will buy a Lexus in Australia since it's much cheaper there.
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prado for an adventure!

lexus for comfort long drive
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post Feb 28 2025, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 28 2025, 01:39 PM)
There's no comfort on Sabah roads!
i was test driving the Lexus RX300. Hit a few pot holes in KK and decided to give up on sedans like cars.
Nothing like a off roader Prado.  laugh.gif
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my friend in sabah also drives those car, although she is so tiny. lol

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