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CommodoreAmiga
post Apr 15 2023, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 15 2023, 04:46 PM)
well...

already gotten others sources of $$$ for raya..

its after raya the problems... all eat white rice with fried egg kicap (personally know few actually did this after major festivals.... because next salary payment very far away) tongue.gif
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Mentality problem...if no money, behave like no money. Can't save these people.
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post Apr 17 2023, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 17 2023, 08:03 AM)
Morning Peeps
Question of the day:

When i leave this world and my EPF money goes to my wife, can this money be transferred to her EPF account?

Thanks in advance.
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I am not sure, but I don't think can. She can withdraw and put into her account which will be subject to self contribution limit. Or maybe can leave the money there and only withdraw as much as required. Better ask at EPF lah bro if worried before say bye bye.

Live Long and prosper bro!

This post has been edited by CommodoreAmiga: Apr 17 2023, 08:12 AM
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post Apr 17 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(gamenoob @ Apr 17 2023, 11:19 AM)
Folks

For those that above 55 doing regular/one time withdrawal, once it is setup, you can do it online deposit to your bank?

And read earlier on is not to do fixed withdrawal plan as epf will exclude these sums from dividend calculation?
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Yes, if you read back this thread, it's all there and some people has done it.
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post Apr 17 2023, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(PueRTeaA @ Apr 17 2023, 11:39 AM)
Yup. Money cant bring go after life. Account got RM 1 or 1 million also can not spend already. console.gif
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Who say cannot. Can go to Prayer Shops to exchange RM with Hell Money. See which one has better exchange rates.....πŸ˜‚
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post Apr 18 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 18 2023, 08:46 AM)
what i find amusing is... before loan gets approved or disbursed already talk of defaults and epf asking mof for help...  1st installment not even due... and epf holding all the money why they need mof help?... lol

the idea and concept of this loan is good imho... just the execution/t&c needs to be clearer... if i legit need cash... happy to sign auto withdrawal at 50/55 form to settle outstanding with the bank...

like i said before... this loan is very mafan for the banks... housing loan banks can seize n sell appreciating asset... personal loan they charge high interests to offset default risk... this loan not much meat for them... they can put a lien on account 2 but will run out of time before they can claim it...
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No solution one lah...you know the kind of people applying for loan using EPF....all wants free money drop from sky. Later when 55 to 60 years old, no money to retire, mintak lagi money from sky.
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post Apr 19 2023, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ Apr 19 2023, 02:17 PM)
MBSB is charging 3% upfront for the takaful insurance. Applied RM50K, only get RM48500 .... Really potong stilm... biggrin.gif
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Forced buy insurance? Wah lau. What if you already have insurance? Have to buy also?
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post Apr 19 2023, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 19 2023, 02:23 PM)
so on the first year alone MBSB/FIs would have made 3% + 1% (rate spread) = 4% from the 700 odd million notional approved.
nice weh...
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post Apr 19 2023, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Apr 19 2023, 02:32 PM)
errrr...... its ok.... my exposure to MBSB via EPF is adequate... smile.gif
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I meant sokong MBSB spiritually. 🀣
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post Apr 21 2023, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 21 2023, 04:46 PM)
Retail industry boosted by β€˜once-in-a-lifetime’ RM150bil EPF withdrawals, says Sunway Malls
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/amp/categ...s-sunway-malls/
another positive / selling points for some people / parties to push for EPF withdrawals  devil.gif
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Boss get richer. Sohai who withdraw EPF kantoi their retirement.
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post Apr 21 2023, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 21 2023, 05:16 PM)
The CEO is high on weed πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ Does he thinks that all special withdrawals goes to spending πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Special withdrawals goes mostly to the banks 1st rather than actual spending because most retail spending is in credit cards πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Anyway when these EPF special withdrawals is basically when the govt is in trouble and unable to stimulate the economy thanks to useless BNM who is unable to cut rates due to low base rates already πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
Not the boss get richer but the banks as do you think Sunway is actually making money while having a sizeable book balance to the banks πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

The only gains are the shareholders in form dividends at Sunway REITs and one of the major shareholder is EPF πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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Kek. Money spent on ifong and mod motor and gelang Emas not boss get richer? Apahal with Sunway pulak??? Topkekest.



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post Apr 22 2023, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 21 2023, 08:47 PM)
Go read those pleas from those who are desperate for the loans instead insinuating and generalising ppl who took special withdrawals to buy those goods πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

many EPF contributors have pending bank loans that need to be settled, while those who had obtained new jobs or have ventured into small businesses after losing their jobs during the pandemic needed cash injection urgently

EPF would know because they have the data itself during the withdrawal application coupled with the less amount being contribute during the period πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ Tak habis habis repeating same thing like a broken record.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 22 2023, 06:01 PM)
Just hope banks don't offline...
Then delay to send / deposit $$$ into EPF....
Always last week of the month (when salaries comes got issues)
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Hari Raya some more, lagi slow...
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post Apr 23 2023, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Apr 23 2023, 09:40 AM)
Have you ever thought how many bankrupts instead πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Allowing them as its own blood sweats and tears to repay off debt is fine because otherwise instead the banks will collapse due to defaults πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ which leads to economic malaise as you can see the minor scare recently in America with just regional bank runs

For EPF to get consistent return is easy because it is 50% is in fixed income while EPF return is not consistent as you think as it is going downhill due to RM depreciation and investing in tongkat companies πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ due to political influence
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This guy must be a working in the bank, always fear bank goes bankrupt. Rice bowl pecah. Lol.

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Apr 28 2023, 11:29 AM)
I bumped into a banker friend today, asked him when his bank going to offer EPF personal loan. He told me they are still working on it. MBSB had an unfair head start according to him.
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MBSB kito kabel kuat...brows.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 25 2023, 08:08 PM)
I think u should be EPF investment advisors

Then we can get much better rate from currently given 😁
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post May 2 2023, 06:48 AM

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QUOTE(HolyCooler @ May 1 2023, 07:59 PM)
How can it not a stupid suggestion? πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ It is a damn freaking crazily ugly STUPID suggestion.

"the increase is necessary to ensure that contributors will have adequate savings in their EPF accounts when they retire" <---  Anyone with a working brain will know this suggestion damn sucky and stupid. πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

"urged the government to increase the employers’ EPF contribution to 20% from the current 13% for those earning RM4,000 and below."  <-- so those 3999 get extra 280, while those getting 4001 get nothing? Fair to workers huh? πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

Want to have more saving? Work harder! and also, stop taking out money from EPF account to buy useless things. That is how saving works. Not keep giving them tongkat to get unfair free money. πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈπŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ
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This is correct. Give 100% EPF contribution also no use when tongkat lovers keep demanding to withdraw EPF never ending to buy ifong, gelang and mod motor. This is culture of the majority.

Remember a while ago there is this professor says she can't tahan the B40...she was right. It's the mentality that made these people forever poor.

Unfortunately, due to the plotek culture, tongkat will just get bigger and bigger until one day it will collapse.
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QUOTE(PueRTeaA @ May 2 2023, 07:50 PM)
wife role will get replace after AI reach maturity phase biggrin.gif

may be 100 year later, all human baby is lab born. doh.gif

kwsp need wait cabinet meeting tmr for discussion....wait news development tmr....after meeting may be govt will announce 3 month kaji dulu.... doh.gif
EPF account got 6 digit or 7 digit doesn't matter  doh.gif, important is ur passive income> current income then can STOP work already lah

Coz  money cant bring go, enjoy life dulu, that why new gen all prefer YOLO dulu rclxm9.gif
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EPF 6 or 7 digit does matter. 6 digit is too little. 7 digit is actually not sufficient if only RM1 mil (not counting anything outside).
It's not passive be more than current income. What is important is passive can cover all your expenses and ideally even left some for saving. When you stop working, should be debt free (or you choose to be in debt because the money is better off elsewhere generating higher than the debt interests). If you can managed to lower your expectations, live a bit more frugally, have enough for retirement to generate income perpectually, then you can stop working. Not necessarily your active income 20k, must make passive income 20k when you stop working.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 2 2023, 08:31 PM)
If AI is that good...

Everyone is rich lorh...

Easy can get high return...

Heck even EPF people would use it to generate more returns for the funds 😁
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Actually...already got AI invest...Stashaway, KDI and whatsnot.

Who here got burnt by Stashaway for the KWEB fiasco? πŸ˜‚

Last last AI=Another Idiot....πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ May 2 2023, 08:59 PM)
And also whether the passive ncome can sustain a decent life in the long run, taking into account inflation and life's curve balls.

A RM5k monthly passive income might be sufficient for 2 pax in 2023, will it be sufficient in 2040?
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If you have a few millions, at least one property for own stay paid off and debt free...doesn't really matter. Assuming you retired at 55 and dieded at 75. I have actually created an Excel previously to reverse engineer your DOD, EPF asset and passive generation from EPF. Inflation won't eat that much in 20 years.
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QUOTE(virtualgay @ May 3 2023, 02:09 PM)
i respect your dedication towards planning for your retirement!!!
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 3 2023, 01:36 PM)
special EPF withdrawalsΒ  cool2.gif
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Withdraw from rich people's account into B40 account...sure win GE.

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