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darthbii
post Aug 18 2013, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(SoLeHuDDiN98 @ Aug 17 2013, 02:38 PM)
Scale down to 0, like me  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I've actually done it already 2 days ago, helps me memorise, probably I'll do another 12 more b4 PMR ♪.
today some Geo.
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post Aug 19 2013, 04:22 PM

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peribahasa and penanda wancana counted as only one word in Bahagian B Karangan Bahan Rangsangan, am i right?
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post Aug 19 2013, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Aug 19 2013, 04:29 PM)
Peribahasa is two word or three depends on how long the word is. But penanda wacana is also the same. That's what my teacher told me.
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So,

Tambahan pula, (2 words)
Lebih-lebih lagi, (2 words)
Kalau tidak dipecahkan ruyung, manakan dapat sagunya (7 words)
bagai aur dengan tebing (4 words)

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post Aug 19 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(aikachan @ Aug 19 2013, 08:31 PM)
If I remember correctly, peribahasa is 1 word, no?
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thats what i remeber too, along with penanda wacana. i remember hearing both counted as only one word now rclxub.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(aikachan @ Aug 19 2013, 08:39 PM)
nope, penanda wacana doesn't counted as one word if it have more than one word.
Well, here's something for everyone :
Semua aspek yang disenaraikan di bawah adalah dikira sebagai satu perkataan.
1. Kata Nama Khas. Contoh: Kementerian Pelajaran Malaysia, Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Tun Mamat.
2. Kata Sendi. Contoh: di (1 patah perkataan), di sana (2 patah perkataan)
3. Kata Ganda. Contoh: gunung-ganang, murid-murid.
4. Peribahasa, ungkapan, dan cogan kata. Contoh: ada hati, seperti aur dengan tebing, pandu cermat jiwa selamat.
5. Tarikh dan angka. Contoh: 1000 (1 patah perkataan), 8 September 2011 (1 patah perkataan).
6. Kata Majmuk. Contoh: tunjuk ajar, bercampur aduk, mengambil kira
7. Gelaran. Contoh: Yang Berhormat (1 patah perkataan), Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Baginda Yang di-Pertuan Agong (1 patah perkataan).
Penanda wacana tidak dikira sebagai satu patah perkataan. Contohnya:
1. ‘selain itu’ (2 patah perkataan).
2. ‘di samping itu’ (3 patah perkataan).
3. ‘Walau bagaimanapun’ (2 patah perkataan).

Source : http://bahasakuyangsatu.blogspot.com/2013/...am-rumusan.html

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Omg, awesome. thumbup.gif so much thanks laugh.gif rclxms.gif , what a lifesaver unsure.gif sweat.gif wink.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 06:59 PM

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Yay! We just hit 30 pages rclxms.gif

Today was quite ok. BM P1 was medium.
P2 I kinda rushed Bahagian C, lucky enough to finish on time.

Another 3 more days ♪ sweat.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(MathsGeniusOrNot @ Aug 21 2013, 07:04 PM)
finally trials over today!
btw science what to revise? having trouble in the form 3 chapter 6(minerals part) can help? i only know acidified pottasium magnanate 7 solution when u heat it up it will produce oxygen gas. Is there any more other experiments? and what turns pottasium magnanate 7 solution to colourless?

and (tip)must remember the reactive-ness of the metals so its basically like that:
[M]agnesium
[A]luminium
[Z]inc
[I]ron
[C]opper
so basically magnesium most reactive and copper not reactive.
and im a little bit confuse on heat conductor,black,white surface..
heat conductor means it absorb heats? and give out fast also?
black surface means absorb fast and give out fast also?
white means the heat keep reflecting so it will maintain the temperature

hope someone can clear this up for me tq and have a nice day :-)
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shouldn't acidific potassium manganate VII solution be used to test sulphur dioxide?(reaction : purple to colourless)
potassium permanganate crystals are the ones the release oxygen whistling.gif

erm, what i know is black absorbs heat better, white reflects heat.

also not very good in this topic tbh unsure.gif
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QUOTE(YingC8888 @ Aug 21 2013, 07:38 PM)
Hi, im a PMR candidate for 2013 too. Actually I'm finding 2013 PMR trial's paper. Anyone can help me?
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i think here ----->http://myschoolchildren.com/
came across it during the holidays

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post Aug 21 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(YingC8888 @ Aug 21 2013, 07:47 PM)
Oh, thx a lot. I done a part from that lol. I'm quite lazy actually haha. Those paper were past year paper. I could like to have this year pmr trials paper that you guys just done for your trials exam...
* I only know that selangor state no any selaras paper sleep.gif
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well, im not sure man, i dont think they would have it out now
btw, congrats on your results cool2.gif , i really crave for it drool.gif
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QUOTE(YingC8888 @ Aug 21 2013, 08:08 PM)
okay...its ok...i will find out hahaha. I was damn lucky one biggrin.gif
Btw, anyone have any question, i will try my best to solve it if im online. *I take KT in khb.
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my life long-unchangeable and repeated question,
How to brainstorm strong isis for karangan? flex.gif
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Aug 21 2013, 08:14 PM)
Brainstorming quite easy. Most of the times we could come up with the stuff related to it. Like I said. You need to take more from BM Karangan Contoh. That's why I usually do. Then add some more stuff from the internet [ ONLY LEGIT FACTS!!! ]
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problem is i can't find great sources to search for legit facts across the web cry.gif . any links? icon_question.gif

im currently trying to dig in those karangan books, trying to tiru abit their style

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QUOTE(YingC8888 @ Aug 21 2013, 08:18 PM)
Bm karangan, read through SPM level refrence book.  If u want higher marks in karangan, try to write more peribahasa like bekerjasama bagai aur dan tebing like that la...
#read more
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QUOTE(Zgames @ Aug 21 2013, 08:24 PM)
Hmm why don't you try reading some online news? Like BH Online. If it's about something that can be used in the karangan just list down. And dig some more about it.
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QUOTE(SoLeHuDDiN98 @ Aug 21 2013, 08:26 PM)
haha yeah, just skip the politics  cool2.gif
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k. looks like ill try reading Berita Harian online icon_rolleyes.gif , this Friday which is end of exams.
maybe 2-3 articles or more, idk whistling.gif

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QUOTE(MathsGeniusOrNot @ Aug 21 2013, 10:00 PM)
wah so many ppl reporting in @@
ok so @darthbii acidified potassium magnate 7 solution is to  test sulphur dioxide? what if its zinc sulphide? can turn the purple to colourless?

ok the last 2 chapters of science u mean generation of electricity and the space?

bm karangan just think stuff that are logical for karangan berpandu(120words) if the title is like kesan bermain komputer, so pendahuluan u write stuff that are related to komputer/nowadays kids are too addicted to comp OR u can write like punca mengurang tabiat(habit) bermain komputer

then the isi u just put in the main point first then elaboration(1sentence enough but must really straight foward) then contoh OR 2 main point

the ending my teacher say just put kita haruslah XXXXXX AGAR/SUPAYA XXXXX then add peribahasa :-) hope i helped

the long karangan just remmeber to write everything in details like ex. situation in the classroom when teacher is not around. Dont just write noisy and end it like that, instead write things like more exicting and more detailed like the kids are playing around and there's rubbish everywhere and stuff like that (lame example). so yeah but long karangan at least 2 peribahasa :-) remember penanda wacana

novel, dun memorise just read the novel form1(sukar membawa tuah) form2(wira persona avatari) form 3(merenang glora) just read through know the charateristics and persoalan,plot,nilai,pengajaran can dy. just understand the story more dun just read sipnosis

ringkasan, i tried changing my words but retain the same meaning but teacher gave me like 11/20, but when i just copy and change maybe 1 word and exchange the sentence (ex. dia sedang makan ayam goreng, change to like ayam goreng dimakan olehnya).

well hope i helped :-).. btw guys science the chapter 6 need memoriese the minerals? and the electricity(chapter 7) like the compass needle point to south? or north
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well yeah, if you heat metal sulphide, sulphur dioxide is released and when tested on acidific potassium manganate VII solution, turns from purple to colourless. they are actually some exclusions though, some metals can't be seperated from being heated.
erm, forget about the direction of the compass though sweat.gif , but that chapter is equally important as well.

thanks anyway for some BM tips.

the replies to this thread today - is too MUCH! thumbup.gif
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post Aug 21 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(MathsGeniusOrNot @ Aug 21 2013, 11:11 PM)
@SoLeHuDDiN98 what do u mean  iron powder go from north to south?
@iAdor3 Naz looking for them too tongue.gif but u can do past year trials paper as the link provided by darthbii ( see previous pg)
@darthbii ohh that makes sense now! so basically when metal suplhide heat up then it produces sulphide dioxide..(rotten gas). thanks yea oh btw got 1 more solution wad already ah? my teacher say got 1 can substitude potassium maganate crystal 7 solution to some other kind of solution and it will turn from orange to green
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umm... potassium dichromate i think, still not sure cause my head is now filled with KH and Maths

QUOTE(aikachan @ Aug 21 2013, 11:12 PM)
Got 7A's 1B. B for Pendidikan Islam. Dunno what to say anymore.
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congrats, rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(aikachan @ Aug 21 2013, 11:31 PM)
Not sure have to be happy or not, sad because last time got 8A's not went to 7A's 1B but happy because the questions are harder than last time. But thanks! Hope I will manage to get straight A's during real pmr! btw, good luck to you! your exam hasn't ended yet, right?
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yeah tomorrow's the last day. biggrin.gif

Today, Maths was quite a breeze. Hope I can get some high marks.
KH was really tricky, wrote down questions I'm not sure on a piece of paper in my pencil case brows.gif (don't think that was cheating), then just checked through them, suprised to have a couple correct. I hope I can at least get only 10 wrongs.
Last day of trials tomorrow laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MathsGeniusOrNot @ Aug 22 2013, 08:38 PM)
my sch no pra-pmr.. straight pmr @.@  haiz  must really serious d but i just dun have the mood to study... its like so sien..
btw guys any tips on improving science paper 2? my explanation damn cha
i know some tips like
inference = observation + because
hypothesis= the, the, the, the
conclusion = hypothesis
those operational definition is Responding if im not mistaken?
observation= wad u see in the experiment

geo, must memorise those places?
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yeap. for Geo, i've said, base your studies through the Analisis past year PMR book, time will be very much saved because PMR mostly are repeated questions. Ofc, you would need to study (don't ever study from text book, that is all crap shit) get a reference instead.

QUOTE(Zgames @ Aug 22 2013, 08:44 PM)
lol The Rancangan Khas Class. The one who got 5A,4A and 3A in UPSR. Actually never really studied during UPSR just play game because kinda easy except for BM that time. Now PMR. It's a hell lot of a different story. So now I'm revising back Algebra,Linear and Circles those were my freakin weakness in Math, BI just need to upgrade essay. My teacher said that I was lack in details etc etc :#
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Actually loci can be quite easy once you understand the concept. I just need some refinements here and there, probably can inch myself to an A.

It's all a matter if the foundation was laid properly. Personally, after my failure in UPSR, went for daily tuition on core subjects. Now, I just need some tweaking here and there. Only thing I regret is not focusing on KH (now have to rush abit) as well as not laying a good base for my BM (sums up my Karangan and Tatabahasa weakness) doh.gif
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QUOTE(YingC8888 @ Aug 22 2013, 10:07 PM)
I wonder which subject you guys dislike/hate? :B
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KH and BM are my weak ones.
I've learnt not to hate them, as that will make me procrastinate blush.gif

Btw, perdagangan isnt really that hard tbh. Teras/teknikal part is the one that is hard in my opinion. Easiest, Pilihan Pertanian brows.gif if you know what I mean
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Suprised to know I got an A for KH (finally, my first A in 3 years).
Btw guys, for Bahagian B Karangan Bahan Rangsangan, if the picture shows 4 isi, must I write all of them down or just choose three of them?
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QUOTE(IzeStorm @ Aug 29 2013, 04:28 PM)
Use all if I'm not mistaken
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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Aug 29 2013, 04:31 PM)
my teacher told me 3 but sometimes i can't think of enuf isi to elaborate it so i use 4 to finish the 120 words
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QUOTE(jiquet @ Aug 29 2013, 05:39 PM)
select 3 out of 4 because you must make sure your essay is not longer than 120. How strict is the marker about the limit I am not too sure but choose 3. 15 words for pendahuluan, 30 for each isi, 15 for the penutup.
I am a PMR candidate for this year too.

Hope it helps
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thanks everyone. i think i'll just use 3, 4 in case i can't think.

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QUOTE(Zgames @ Aug 29 2013, 06:04 PM)
Wa good la rclxms.gif I still not that good. My average score is 45. Which is only 75%. Ahh if only I could remember all the parts for the engine sad.gif
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i think i was a bit lucky there cause the standard of the paper was purposely lowered down cause every Form 3 in the school aren't very good at KH (touch wood blink.gif doubt i am now) but still i think it was just a mere of luck cause it was quite okay.

the engine is easy. i don't remember the name of the parts, but if you give me a picture of it and some ABCD selections, i think i could point it out (this is how i always score so good although i dont remember stuff well, same aplies to Sejarah and Geo) not sure if you understand actually cause its quite hard to explain but i hope you do flex.gif


QUOTE(jiquet @ Aug 29 2013, 06:13 PM)
Sej: the only book i've relied on is the textbook. But, if you think the paragraphs are bothersome, nexus sejarah is not bad. Not sure about the rest.
1) remember every single thing except the date.
Try to remember it like a story. Visualize the scenes going on in your mind.
2) after finishing a chapter, do the exercises.
I would recommend Sasbadi and Longman on this, Longman's got some real specific questions.
There is some Fajar Asia book,. Brown colour, i think.

Takes a long time but the hard work will pay off.
That's all.

Buy past year paper (IMPORTANT)

P/s: avoid distraction as much as possible.

good luck for PMR, everyone! smile.gif
you can do it!!
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hmm... well i relied on Focus 4U. really also a good book cause the book was written by three authors, one of them is the author of our Sejarah text books

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