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post Feb 20 2013, 02:55 PM

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thinking should i find a reborn partner for my iron maiden FSeMP or cash in on her ..

any rough guide line how much for below 2 pcs can fetch, i mean in iii ?

1.) iron maiden FSeMP
2.) cool gargantua clean
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post Feb 20 2013, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(mcblade @ Feb 20 2013, 03:01 PM)
Auction them and u shall know nod.gif
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u mean put it for auction at GCF auction section ?

hmmmm ... i never did auction before ~ smile.gif

sounds good , maybe i should try it .. any minimal iii rough estimation ?
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post Feb 20 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 20 2013, 03:31 PM)

Market is crazy right now. Hard to tell... My suggestion is to wait it out another 48 hours till people run out of rebirth material then put it out and fish for offers.
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wookay ~ let's wait another few days 1st before sending it out for trade , since ppl are eating up all their rebirth food like what mbr says , expect every guardian prices will hike smile.gif


QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 20 2013, 03:32 PM)
Just as an reference for you, i JUST traded my Cool Clean Garg for an Clean Power Phoenix.

If Cool Garg, it should be around 20-25 (iii).
I had people offer me 18 (iii) for my Sexy Garg previously.

As for my clean Iron Maiden, i too JUST traded it for a Clean Fast S.Bird.
(I'm not sure if this is a good trade, but who cares, i need the Fast Bird)..

And i received offer to buy my IM with 25 (iii) before.
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wahhh ~ thanks for the info's bro , now i know roughly how much my stuff is worth .. anything related to stone iii value , u are the boss ! flex.gif
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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 20 2013, 03:45 PM)
Yes... but buying a non-reborn ensures that you can control the type for rebirth, as well as making sure the correct skills are set.

Buying a reborn is costly due to
1. Cost of rebirth and level up
2. Buying 2 guardians worth
3. Can be troublesome to prove it's not illicit (if you buy non-reborn, you can test because some noted illicit cards cannot reborn)
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got ppl offer me the reborn FSeMP berserk titan lvl70 for my int golbez ..

like mbr says , use some thinking and go for what i want .. i decided i don't like berserk titan hence offer rejected smile.gif

and don't always look for what's good what's bad , look for something i like and useful to the deck ..

so i already set my wishlist , so i don't end up getting something i dont need ..

i wan ettin and rubi , but i already have shiva and gilga , so won't go for those 2 ..

looking to get 3 pair QS + LS combo , 2 ele dealer , 1 tanker , 1 death skill dealer

hence , morri and serenade my main target ...

1st time i start to analyze thing myself ... sounds fun biggrin.gif

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for colli , elite in rank S dropping to A .. all above 3600 avg dmg ..

i notice most of them have 3x alm .. and 1 guardian is quite famous , frost nix !!

and place it as last guardian ... got few times , i can win the battle if the frost nix don't revive , but this birds always come back !

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and met a rebirth raijin vs my rebirth fujin ..

both his and mine revive kicks in , maybe i won marginally due to ace .. whistling.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 20 2013, 04:09 PM)
But don't forgot only Fast Garg people will like,
Other Garg will be too slow for liking, even if u has his atk & + 25%,
no use if others kill you before u can attack..
BTW Supermac, since u still wanna Ettin,
I have a guy buggin me to take his Ace Ettin..
Keep coming up with offers from my guardian list and try to convince me to trade for his Ace Ettin..
I told him i'm not interested in Ettin.. So i ask him to Pm u instead?
What;s your nick in GC forum alrd?
Haiz... now market really siao..
There is a guy post reborn Cool Gargantua almost FS.
Wanna sell for MINIMUM 70 (iii)...

So Super, maybe u just get another sexy gargantua n post another auction,
50 (iii) for it.. U can easily zhap stones required to FS 2 guardian
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my name at GCF is supermac too smile.gif

sure ask him pm me.. see i can squeezeeeeeee what out of him kekekek (learn from bro nightheart) biggrin.gif

wow ~ maybe i should try get a bad gargantua as topper from trade and sell it for iii .. i'm in need of iii badly

thanks for the info on stone's again stone merchant pro

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 20 2013, 04:17 PM)
wow, IM for Fast S.bird? thought S.birds are much more expensive? i guess their value dropped due to rebirth?
ppl keep offering me aces. but i'm dead scared of dupes. and it's still going on, one of the forum member got warning cos getting ace morri.
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yea ~ i heard about his story too , and he even get the ace morri from a high rep reputable seller saying it's self caught ... guess no 1 willing to sell self caught ace morri so soon since she is still the best , hence lot's of duped emerging . if want ace morri , best i think get rebirth ace morri , since if duped , there's a chance it can't be reborn , but still , no 100% guaranteed as usual smile.gif


QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 20 2013, 04:20 PM)
@supermac - I have been seeing offers for IM from 18 iii to 25 iii. But it looks like a good trading guardian for 5*.
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i guess i'll keep the im and cool gargantua for now , wait after few days like bro mbr says only decide smile.gif

QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 04:22 PM)
I was checking out the auction section, and I can't believe someone sold his Ace Golbez fsemp for just 25 max lvl 4* feeder. doh.gif
Is it intel.
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ace golbez = 25 lvl55 feeder ... if it's not duped , i'll be slapping myself i didn't saw the post and pay him 30 lvl55 to get my hands on the golbez ace doh.gif

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 20 2013, 04:44 PM)
Why there is nobody offering me any aces? Not even lowballers,that's kinda amusing lol!  rolleyes.gif
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LOL ~ u selling ace morri ? maybe after the GCF member duped issue , make lot's of ppl worried ~ doh.gif

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WTF !! my fast barb FSeMP , agi 3900 , starting my deck , lose to a chariot ??? he move's 1st ..

damn piss i go check out GCX , dang .. reborn chariot , QS and agi 3955 , 55 point more than my boobies ..

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i remember chariot is something ppl don't want last time ...

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 20 2013, 05:06 PM)
Yeah.. But now with QS, he is 1 hot horses...
Anyway if i not mistaken, even after reborn, he can't DC.
Yeah... siao ryte?? U know what? He got 1 of the cool gargantua from me..
He's the person i traded my garg for the Phoenix.
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LOL~ he sure untung alot .. 80iii drool.gif makes me drool


QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 20 2013, 05:08 PM)
I got ace Thor only,dun hv that amoi.
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Ace Thor drool.gif why not make it as your keeper if you already have a full deck , cox rebirthing a ace is much cheaper than rebirthing a best type smile.gif

thor , nuada , sphinx , barbariccia , morrighan is keeper for me ...
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 20 2013, 05:18 PM)
APa untung... langsung nobody bother to bid..
the market not really stupid 1 mar.. I meant who in their right mind would pay 70iii (min) for a cool reborn Gargantua?
Being almost FS doesn't makes a different..
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hahahah ~ when a market can get u a ace golbez for 25pcs lvl55 feeder .. what also can happen 1 lor boss brows.gif

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i'm thinking should i reborn my int gilga pair 1x FSeMP + 1x clean to wise type ..

or reborn it as int type with the FSeMP , then trade the clean int for a bad gilga + some other guardian ...


i don't dare reborn the gilga now coz i still can figure out how to skill him ..

get LS but his atk is low due to int/wis type ..

get agi+25 , kinda like no use as it only activates next round ( in elite and master higher rank , usually won't last more than 1 round) zzzz doh.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 20 2013, 05:34 PM)
FS reborn Gilga don't play2, max atk also got 3k plus leh

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Scratch also painful?
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looking at your reborn gilga , not the atk that attracts me ~ is the speed ! brows.gif

making me thinking should i trade the int/wise to fast/sonic ..

another thing about gilga is , if take LS and he scratch the opponent guardian , also won't be painfull enough to be finished off even by the strongest Q.Striker like sphinx and morri .. if take agi+25 , he also won't last another round for the agi to kicks in ..
** but i prefer agi+25 over LS for gilga smile.gif

and i noticed something for gilga , u can't see any rank A+ above on elite using gilga .. all ettin , cagnazzo etc .. they using tough ele dmg dealer .. zzzzzz

** i think i saw ettin in your deck drool.gif , nuada , thor !

QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 20 2013, 05:37 PM)
Not for Wise Gilga.. Wise Gilga only 3006..
Don't forget Wise -15& Atk..

And bear in mind, not only your Guardian stat increase,
other reborn guardian increase as well



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yeap~ that's the reason why if i reborn to wise , with that low atk , agi+25 should be the choice ..

do u think a reborn wise gilga can fetch me a non reborn ace ettin ?


QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 20 2013, 05:45 PM)
Don forget some could be 'fixed', ie i go auction say a brave atlas and negisf go b/o 60 iii (in fact its just wayang)
so does it mean brave atlas' worth 60 iii?
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LOL~ i not good in auctioning , but this "fixed" method kinda useful , if i really put something into auction , mafan u all help me shoot up the price brows.gif hahahaha

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 20 2013, 06:08 PM)
Which is why I'm not joining elite at all
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i sot sot dei go join elite on monday itself .. sien jor .. always see almighty .. then my whole deck down , 5 of them still standing ..

and some of them put barbie as starter , then follow by sphinx , then follow by 3 almighty ..

wanna down their 1st 5x guardian also damn hard ..

but nvm lo , can learn alot deck arranging and know which guardian elite user prefer ..

i'm starting to put my eye on almighty actually hmm.gif
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post Feb 20 2013, 07:27 PM

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hmmmm ... for atlas .. i know chao type is good , for it's high hp .. but in high colli rank , can't tank also .. why not take fast atlas ? is it correct ?

hope he can hit 1st ohko 1 oppnonet , then die , last stand scratch 1 guardian to mati / damage it enough to be finish off by QS ?
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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 20 2013, 07:36 PM)
From what I see,even fast atlas will be having only 3.1k Agi after stoning. Still consider as slow comparing other monsters
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yeap i know .. fast atlas HP:3482 Agi:3142 , chao atlas HP:3770 Agi:2900

agi diff between 242 is , HP diff is 288point ..

but fast can bring the team avg atk up ~ (trying to compile a deck without guardian lower than 3k agi)

since atlas can't tank in higher rank colli and his main duty is hit 1st , let ppl kill , then LS kills/dmg

hence chao , brave also no diff , also will let ppl OHKO .. where fast can increase agi ..

power atlas LS is darn pain but too slow i guess ..

Lol ~ just my point of view ya dunno correct or not
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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 20 2013, 08:00 PM)
Sonic Gilga, meet my little friend
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wow ~ 1st reborn ace birdie showing off whistling.gif
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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 20 2013, 08:12 PM)
Here's the statistic:

Chaotic
49/203 - opp ohko u with phy +4
67/365 - opp ohko with normal magic +4
64/208 - opp ohko u with crit magic
2900 - agi
Brave
54/240
75/425
55/194
2900
Fast
89/681
88/786
55/276
3142

Chaotic obviously has a bit advantage over brave, with less guardian can ohko him. More hp is better than more def due to def only protect against phy att. The wis lose for chaotic seems to be compensated with the additional hp. Brave meanwhile, even with more def, get killed more by phy att compare to chaotic. Chaotic wins hands down.
Brave and fast. Obviously fast is at much more disadvantage, ohko rate by opp is much more (tripled)
Agi gained is 242, if he survives 3 round, he has added less than 700 to next guardian. No promise next guardian can strike first. Brave minuses mp so big disadvantage but after rebirth, mp is just nice.

So my own personal preference:
Before reborn: chaotic > fast / brave
After reborn: chaotic > brave > fast

Note above data is for lvl 60. Hv not checked stats for lvl 70
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 08:38 PM)
Anybody wanna try out my reborn deck? smile.gif

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is it ID : funnytone ? later go try try smile.gif

QUOTE(jkleejk @ Feb 20 2013, 08:48 PM)
Reborn 4* is like decent 5*...i think u sure can get better result in Master Coli, can get A+/S ... so far i didnt met any Rebirth card in Master Coli ... secure my 50wins... smile.gif
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wowww .. congrats .. damn regret why monday go ass itchy join elite zzzzzz

QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 20 2013, 08:51 PM)
Ya doing this one time only. Very tiring tongue.gif
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ahahahahah ~ nvm nvm , analyze more for maths dumb like me biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 08:38 PM)
Anybody wanna try out my reborn deck? smile.gif

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try out your deck .. my raijin revive fail . lucky fujin revive kick in .. nam nam win u by 1 guardian only ...

i think my deck is consider ok already .. no i wan to re-think again cry.gif

that reborn gilga is which type .. ?

fast barb vs shiva as deck starter .. barb lose yawn.gif

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 10:03 PM)
I lost to your deck by 2 guardians. Your barb attack first, but her elemental attack is weak. Your first 5 guardians mostly lose, but the last 5 are heavy hitters especially your gilga.

Anyway, here's the results for my social battle:

Nightwind: -1
Hbtiong: -6
jkleejk78: +3
WSK 710: -7
ProteusX: -3
MBR: +4
Marcus Yap: -2
Desilencer: -7
Last Wolf: +2

Overal, the new reborn 4* are not bad. Except for Angel which I feel lacking in firepower, the rest are mostly heavy hitters. Against speed deck, they have no chance, but pound for pound they can give those 5* decks a run for the money. Its quite obvious that most 4* guardians favor physical attack, and this is where they actually excel against 5* that mostly focuses on elemental attack.
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your mixed 4* 5* deck against my full power deck , i only left 2 survive ... LOL

i feel like being max bullied and don't wanna live in this planet anymore cry.gif

and my 1st - 6th guardian are something i try to get the most ..

thought those combo is good but let u eat ...

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any comment on the deck ? arrangement ?

or should i break the QS + LS combo ?

i keep shuffling my deck and go against go againt rank S elite player .. this arrangement gets most kill for me ..

or should i shift the whole QS + LS to the back of my deck , put those heavy hitter infront ?



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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 20 2013, 10:44 PM)
Don't take social battle too seriously mac. This game still after all about speed and OHKO. Although your deck is faster, as long as my guardian takes their turn, its a guaranteed kill. I think since you've said yourself the present arrangement gives you the most kill, then just stick with it. Most important is usually the opener and the ender. You can practically shift around the middle cards.
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hmmmm ~ since i don't have the budget to reborn my fast barb .. thinking putting the reborn raijin as starter , then end with reborn fujin ..

but if don't start with fast barb .. can put her where leh .. let me think think (or u have any suggest? place her infront of my slowest guardian?)

damn social battle only can do it once to each person .. else can keep arrange and try ..


QUOTE(htpkevin @ Feb 20 2013, 10:49 PM)
how is everyone here. Finally get over with busy period. Now can start playing back all these games ady. But for guardian cross i think i need some time to catch up ady>.< Currently playing clash of clan too
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any bro here have a fast azi ? i need it for a trade ~

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social battle :


Nightwind: -4

Hbtiong: -8

jkleejk78: -4 (this bro have lvl1 card inside lol)

WSK 710: -7

funnytone: -2

MBR: +4 (i think my deck shiver against u, raijin fujin fail to revive,
nuada thor fail to LS . LOL)

Marcus Yap: -5

Oro: -7

ghozt: -6

** go try out MBR deck , can see alot new stuff smile.gif
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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 21 2013, 12:11 AM)
Er did negisf or cypad rebirthed a caim?
How does caim and nara stands out.
Well i got an offer of trading my nara with caim plus toppers. Jus wondering to try him out as one of the best 4* i have yet to own. smile.gif
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for 4* rebirth i think best is ask funny , mbr and negisf ...

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i'm thinking to reborn my ace nara or golem now ....

and feel like reborn my int/wise gilga .. but haven't decide which skill to get .. but i see few bro using LS for their reborn gilgo smile.gif

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ask something noob , where to check which guardian can fuse with which guardian ah ... ? like like barb is fusing with empress etc..

almighty s.bird food is s.bird ? same as mighty ?

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