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post Feb 16 2013, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 16 2013, 01:11 AM)
Ahhh! That's the table I'm talking about.

Eh, come to our gathering la......funnyTONE is traveling all the way from Johor for this le. Come say hi to our boss ma /no1
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I cannot guarantee yet...still 50-50 can make it or not
Will confirm when the date is near
Can put my name on reserve first smile.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ Feb 16 2013, 01:16 AM)
Only 1 place satay celup is good, name of the shop is "Capitol". Other place not that nice, this shop is so small, just around 8 tables only & no parking nearby. But ppl still flocking this place & normally Q up so long to makan. To avoid the crowd just come weekdays.
Satay Celup= the satay kuah not finish makan, but dun waste taruk inside the lok lok soup then become satay lok lok  wink.gif
Asam Laksa,...not really know melaka famous for this .. got one place belakang lorong makan "shi ham aka kerang rebus" & tauhu bakar damn nice ..near Jln Bunga Raya. Also got 1 popiah store, super nice located in that same road, damn long Q need to take waiting card for ur turn to purchase... laugh.gif
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The popiah is non halal....i heard of it. Same goes to the satay celup too if I'm not mistaken. So that's kinda hard for some people here to join that one hehe.

The Asam Laksa in Jonker 88 is quite nice, smack in the end of Jonker Street if I recall correctly.

Best place to go in Malacca is still Nadaje =)
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post Feb 16 2013, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 16 2013, 01:19 AM)
The popiah is non halal....i heard of it. Same goes to the satay celup too if I'm not mistaken. So that's kinda hard for some people here to join that one hehe.

The Asam Laksa in Jonker 88 is quite nice, smack in the end of Jonker Street if I recall correctly.

Best place to go in Malacca is still Nadaje =)
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Is it the old shop with some antic decorations?
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post Feb 16 2013, 01:21 AM

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Latest attendance list!!!
Can everyone else confirm their attendance?? So far only 5 confirmed, so sad!! cry.gif cry.gif
Who got missed out??? Please scream here!! quote of the day; Ohana means family & family means nobody gets left behind.

1) Negisf (CONFIRMED) rclxms.gif
2) FallenOut (CONFIRMED) rclxms.gif
3) Sitdawg(CONFIRMED)
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4) funnyTONE (CONFIRMED) rclxms.gif
5) Myself (CONFIRMED)

6) hulksmash
7) cypad (CONFIRMED) rclxms.gif
8) wings_silver
9) oRoXoRo
10) justanovice (outstation)
11) supermac (in Bali)
12) SephirothLee
13) onelove89 (overseas)
14) chew0601 (busy)
15) ghozt (MUST COMEEEEE, COME LAAA)
16) ??
17) ??

Location details;
Subang Jaya's McD. For those planning on taking the train, just take the KTM to Subang Jaya station. The McD is within walking distance, it's that simple & lesser parking & jam headaches for those planning to drive.

Timing;
Sunday, 24 February 2013 at 12pm sharp!! (Oppa Japanese style, no KL style plz). Eat your breakfast/lunch/brunch there!! So bangun pagi, gosok gigi & terus to McD!! Can cuci muka in the restaurant yawn.gif

Please take this opportunity to feedback on the location & timing as much as you can. I'll try to cater to everyone!!! Let's make this gathering a success!! rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(ghozt @ Feb 16 2013, 01:18 AM)
I cannot guarantee yet...still 50-50 can make it or not
Will confirm when the date is near
Can put my name on reserve first  smile.gif
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Don't la reserve reserve.....dunno when's the next time funnyTONE will travel 4 hours up to PJ again. Come & see our boss, the #1 reason we have this GC Society here =)

QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 16 2013, 01:20 AM)
Is it the old shop with some antic decorations?
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Nadaje is the place selling the crepe mille, the restaurant & patisserie that looks more like a club one hahaha.
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post Feb 16 2013, 01:29 AM

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Erm, wanna ask 1 more question Int Hoarfrost Phoenix worth how many (III) in the market?

If we to arrange arcordingly from the best type to worst type, how shd be the arrangement?

Ace>??? > ???
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post Feb 16 2013, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 16 2013, 01:04 AM)
RATE : 5x2* = 1 ss, 3x3* = 1 ss
Common rate for feeders... basically 5x2* same element gives more exp than single SS?
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QUOTE(ghozt @ Feb 16 2013, 01:04 AM)
here the chart:-

Feeder      Exp gain
1* any          35
1* same element        52
1* identical    70
2* any          55
2* same element        82
2* identical                110
3* any          75
3* same element        112
3* identical          150
4* any          90
4* same element        135
4* identical          180
Silver slime          210
Gold slime          630

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Thanks Ghozt for the table

Example 1: Let's say you need 1200 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 60GP to combine.
You will need 6SS => 1260 exp, GP cost = 360
If you trade for 2* same element, then 3ss can get you 15 of them (if your rate is right) => 1230, exp. GP cost = 900
If you trade for 3* same element, then 4ss can get you 12 of them (again, your rate), and you need 11 of them => 1232 exp, GP cost = 660

Example 2: Let's say you need 2000 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 120GP to combine.
You will need 10SS => 2100 exp, GP cost = 1200
If you trade for 2* same element, then 5ss can get you 25 of them => 2050 exp. GP cost = 3000 (2.5x compared to using SS)
If you trade for 3* same element, then 6ss can get you 18 of them => 2016 exp, GP cost = 2160 (1.8x compared to using SS)

I prefer a "middle way" of doing stuff, so above level 25 or 30, where cost per guardian increases a lot, you should consider trading your SS for 3* as it should be manageable.

But wait!!

What if we compare the same amount of SS?

Example 2, using 10SS to trade for 30x 3* of same element, use 18 to level up, and sell another 12 (at 120 GP a pop)
Then cost of upgrade: 2160-1440 = 740 GP

Isn't this better than using 10SS for upgrade?

Problem if, what if you can't get 3* of same element?

Then for example 2, you will need 27x any 3* to get 2025 exp, and cost of leveling = 2880GP (after minus sales of spare 3*), which is 2.4x compared to SS

Now, if you can get a ratio of half of the 3* of same element,

15x Same element + 5 different element = 2055 exp, cost of leveling (after deduct sales) = 1200 GP = Same as using SS

Obviously the cost savings are reduced if you can't get the same elements 3* and cost of combining guardians increase, but the maths are still similar.

Thus around level 50, just trade the guardians back into SS and GS as preferred feeders.
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post Feb 16 2013, 09:37 AM

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Wah.. very detail explanation plus calculation from Bro Mbr..

I nvr thought of it.. buy 3* with SS, then sell those extra's 1..
I usually only buy how much i needed them..

It's good way for low level players that doesn' has enuf/surplus GP..

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post Feb 16 2013, 09:39 AM

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really really detail maths and explanation bro MBR biggrin.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 16 2013, 01:36 AM)
Thanks Ghozt for the table

Example 1: Let's say you need 1200 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 60GP to combine.
You will need 6SS => 1260 exp, GP cost = 360
If you trade for 2* same element, then 3ss can get you 15 of them (if your rate is right) => 1230, exp. GP cost = 900
If you trade for 3* same element, then 4ss can get you 12 of them (again, your rate), and you need 11 of them => 1232 exp, GP cost = 660

Example 2: Let's say you need 2000 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 120GP to combine.
You will need 10SS => 2100 exp, GP cost = 1200
If you trade for 2* same element, then 5ss can get you 25 of them => 2050 exp. GP cost = 3000 (2.5x compared to using SS)
If you trade for 3* same element, then 6ss can get you 18 of them => 2016 exp, GP cost = 2160 (1.8x compared to using SS)

I prefer a "middle way" of doing stuff, so above level 25 or 30, where cost per guardian increases a lot, you should consider trading your SS for 3* as it should be manageable.

But wait!!

What if we compare the same amount of SS?

Example 2, using 10SS to trade for 30x 3* of same element, use 18 to level up, and sell another 12 (at 120 GP a pop)
Then cost of upgrade: 2160-1440 = 740 GP

Isn't this better than using 10SS for upgrade?

Problem if, what if you can't get 3* of same element?

Then for example 2, you will need 27x any 3* to get 2025 exp, and cost of leveling = 2880GP (after minus sales of spare 3*), which is 2.4x compared to SS

Now, if you can get a ratio of half of the 3* of same element,

15x Same element + 5 different element = 2055 exp, cost of leveling (after deduct sales) = 1200 GP = Same as using SS

Obviously the cost savings are reduced if you can't get the same elements 3* and cost of combining guardians increase, but the maths are still similar.

Thus around level 50, just trade the guardians back into SS and GS as preferred feeders.
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wow... it's like doing advance finance / investments tongue.gif I've lost my touch with calculations. morning peps. (afternoon for OZ people)

got a lvl 1 ace nara for 3iii, now gonna level it and i'll add that to my reborn list ;p i'm not sure if it sounds silly to get excited on doing reborns on 4* tongue.gif but can't afford 5* now unless i get more in SHTs.... get like an ace then trade for multiple bad/good ones biggrin.gif then again, i always want to keep my cards sad.gif reluctant to let go my thor just yet even though the market value is high. oh well. shall hunt more thors! tongue.gif come at me bro flex.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 10:05 AM

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traded ace domi for chao atlas + chao nuada ..

suddenly check catalogue , 2 SHT , then "X" day log in 1SHT ..

1st SHT all 3* 4*

2nd SHT Fujin (power)

3rd SHT Fujin (chaotic)

i wan't to cry ......

don't give me new guardian nvm , also don't give me both bad type fujin larrrr sigh to the max ....

damn damn down ~ cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Feb 16 2013, 10:10 AM

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walao.... so ungrateful.
Got 2 fujin oso cry. You should do giveaways to cleanse your bad luck then. brows.gif
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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 16 2013, 10:05 AM)
traded ace domi for chao atlas + chao nuada ..

suddenly check catalogue , 2 SHT , then "X" day log in 1SHT ..

1st SHT all 3* 4*

2nd SHT Fujin (power)

3rd SHT Fujin (chaotic)

i wan't to cry ......

don't give me new guardian nvm , also don't give me both bad type fujin larrrr sigh to the max ....

damn damn down ~  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

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Wah, got 2 5* lagi mau complain..
I got 'bulu' only ler..
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post Feb 16 2013, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 16 2013, 10:10 AM)
walao.... so ungrateful.
Got 2 fujin oso cry. You should do giveaways to cleanse your bad luck then. brows.gif
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 16 2013, 10:10 AM)
Wah, got 2 5* lagi mau complain..
I got 'bulu' only ler..
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both sifu's ~

but it's bad type .. at least give me 1 bad 1 decent lor ... sigh ~

and i damn damn hope to get new 5* ...

maybe need to do some catalogue on my 2nd device to earn some SHT

T_T no one need any 1 of them right here ~
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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 16 2013, 01:36 AM)
Thanks Ghozt for the table

Example 1: Let's say you need 1200 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 60GP to combine.
You will need 6SS => 1260 exp, GP cost = 360
If you trade for 2* same element, then 3ss can get you 15 of them (if your rate is right) => 1230, exp. GP cost = 900
If you trade for 3* same element, then 4ss can get you 12 of them (again, your rate), and you need 11 of them => 1232 exp, GP cost = 660

Example 2: Let's say you need 2000 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 120GP to combine.
You will need 10SS => 2100 exp, GP cost = 1200
If you trade for 2* same element, then 5ss can get you 25 of them => 2050 exp. GP cost = 3000 (2.5x compared to using SS)
If you trade for 3* same element, then 6ss can get you 18 of them => 2016 exp, GP cost = 2160 (1.8x compared to using SS)

I prefer a "middle way" of doing stuff, so above level 25 or 30, where cost per guardian increases a lot, you should consider trading your SS for 3* as it should be manageable.

But wait!!

What if we compare the same amount of SS?

Example 2, using 10SS to trade for 30x 3* of same element, use 18 to level up, and sell another 12 (at 120 GP a pop)
Then cost of upgrade: 2160-1440 = 740 GP

Isn't this better than using 10SS for upgrade?

Problem if, what if you can't get 3* of same element?

Then for example 2, you will need 27x any 3* to get 2025 exp, and cost of leveling = 2880GP (after minus sales of spare 3*), which is 2.4x compared to SS

Now, if you can get a ratio of half of the 3* of same element,

15x Same element + 5 different element = 2055 exp, cost of leveling (after deduct sales) = 1200 GP = Same as using SS

Obviously the cost savings are reduced if you can't get the same elements 3* and cost of combining guardians increase, but the maths are still similar.

Thus around level 50, just trade the guardians back into SS and GS as preferred feeders.
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thumbup.gif this should be in the 1st post! Thanks for the effort to answer. Now... I need to do some excel so I can automate the calculations haha..

Anyone have the table of GP required to upgrade guardian at each level?
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post Feb 16 2013, 10:21 AM

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@mbr: superb calculation and analysis! *salute*
@supermac: don sad la, if sad then send one to me, i'll take good care of him
@onelove89: good price for nara, he's one of the best 4* definately.

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post Feb 16 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 16 2013, 10:15 AM)
Anyone have the table of GP required to upgrade guardian at each level?
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Cost of Combining one card = (enhancing card's current level - 1) x 5 + 10

source: http://guardiancrossguide.blogspot.com/201...hancing_20.html

supermac: i might want both. I got good stuff to trade. pm me what else you have, please.

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 16 2013, 10:28 AM)
Cost of Combining one card = (enhancing card's current level - 1) x 5 + 10

source: http://guardiancrossguide.blogspot.com/201...hancing_20.html

supermac: i might want both. I got good stuff to trade. pm me what else you have, please.
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just send pm bro biggrin.gif

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post Feb 16 2013, 11:19 AM

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I need some clarification here, I'm current level 19 and joining the Novice coli. If I were to level to 20, what happens? I will not be able to join the Novice coli and will have to participate in the Master's coli instead or will this be effective on the next league?
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Feb 16 2013, 11:19 AM)
I need some clarification here, I'm current level 19 and joining the Novice coli. If I were to level to 20, what happens? I will not be able to join the Novice coli and will have to participate in the Master's coli instead or will this be effective on the next league?
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