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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V4 thread ★★~, Mobile Gaming is siries biznes yo!

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onelove89
post Feb 15 2013, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 15 2013, 07:07 PM)
Really bro? Just received pm from one fella offering 10 iii for my brave atlas. ~.~
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what? =.= it's much much more tongue.gif haha.
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post Feb 15 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 15 2013, 07:56 PM)
Come join our gathering!! Take the KTM, very easy only!!  thumbup.gif
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ktm kelana jaya line tongue.gif I've been taking lots of train to see my gf when i was in kl tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2013, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Feb 15 2013, 08:04 PM)
KTM got no Kelana Jaya line le, that's LRT. You need to take the Pelabuhan Klang line to pass by Subang Jaya station.
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my bad. kelana jaya was another place tongue.gif
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post Feb 15 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 15 2013, 09:38 PM)
lol. Shows you're beginning to analyse each guardian's strength properly. Yes, mitlan's best type is suppose to be Int, probably sexy is next best for Self Destruct. But its least favourite skill among elite players.
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is SD sure hit? I fought 3 crocells and all 3 didn't manage to 'hit' me with their SD.

my terrible lady deck (how can talos be a lady???) only can get me tops B+, gonna rush on monday. hopefully i get a free afternoon ;p or just play in toilet xD
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post Feb 15 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 15 2013, 11:41 PM)
My catch:

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Is it a good type? Lol!

She's a ele atker so I assume is a gd type?
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sweeeet smile.gif congrats bro. i'm always shaky when playing SHT tongue.gif haha. need calm nerves.
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post Feb 16 2013, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 16 2013, 01:36 AM)
Thanks Ghozt for the table

Example 1: Let's say you need 1200 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 60GP to combine.
You will need 6SS => 1260 exp, GP cost = 360
If you trade for 2* same element, then 3ss can get you 15 of them (if your rate is right) => 1230, exp. GP cost = 900
If you trade for 3* same element, then 4ss can get you 12 of them (again, your rate), and you need 11 of them => 1232 exp, GP cost = 660

Example 2: Let's say you need 2000 exp to level up, and each guardian costs 120GP to combine.
You will need 10SS => 2100 exp, GP cost = 1200
If you trade for 2* same element, then 5ss can get you 25 of them => 2050 exp. GP cost = 3000 (2.5x compared to using SS)
If you trade for 3* same element, then 6ss can get you 18 of them => 2016 exp, GP cost = 2160 (1.8x compared to using SS)

I prefer a "middle way" of doing stuff, so above level 25 or 30, where cost per guardian increases a lot, you should consider trading your SS for 3* as it should be manageable.

But wait!!

What if we compare the same amount of SS?

Example 2, using 10SS to trade for 30x 3* of same element, use 18 to level up, and sell another 12 (at 120 GP a pop)
Then cost of upgrade: 2160-1440 = 740 GP

Isn't this better than using 10SS for upgrade?

Problem if, what if you can't get 3* of same element?

Then for example 2, you will need 27x any 3* to get 2025 exp, and cost of leveling = 2880GP (after minus sales of spare 3*), which is 2.4x compared to SS

Now, if you can get a ratio of half of the 3* of same element,

15x Same element + 5 different element = 2055 exp, cost of leveling (after deduct sales) = 1200 GP = Same as using SS

Obviously the cost savings are reduced if you can't get the same elements 3* and cost of combining guardians increase, but the maths are still similar.

Thus around level 50, just trade the guardians back into SS and GS as preferred feeders.
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wow... it's like doing advance finance / investments tongue.gif I've lost my touch with calculations. morning peps. (afternoon for OZ people)

got a lvl 1 ace nara for 3iii, now gonna level it and i'll add that to my reborn list ;p i'm not sure if it sounds silly to get excited on doing reborns on 4* tongue.gif but can't afford 5* now unless i get more in SHTs.... get like an ace then trade for multiple bad/good ones biggrin.gif then again, i always want to keep my cards sad.gif reluctant to let go my thor just yet even though the market value is high. oh well. shall hunt more thors! tongue.gif come at me bro flex.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 16 2013, 11:46 AM)
bro ~ wanna asked ~

my ace serenade for fast morrighan .. good or no ? my bet is no right ?
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need tops for morrighan i think?
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post Feb 16 2013, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 16 2013, 12:22 PM)
nope i'm asking for 1:1 .. smile.gif

bro u have any luck getting morri and thor ?
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nah bro, no SHTs. got itunes credits but refraining from buying coins. they are so bloody expensive =.= money sucking SE.

i need help with plains and volcano 5*s after the coli if its ok guys smile.gif still got a few. will post later
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post Feb 16 2013, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 16 2013, 01:33 PM)
Then faster go camping at snowfield shoot those giant and ladies biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 16 2013, 02:01 PM)
Now see the coins happy lor..
When hunting that time, get crappy 4* & 3* mar tulan & angry lo..
When pay CC at month end when bills comes mar sad lo.
Too bad.. my position this year is reverse alrd..
giving angpow status.. no more qualify to receive
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camped at desert, got 14 3* =.= the hell man. talking bout luck. i got like 2 +10sec and yet SE dont wan give me any 5*, not even 4*. must have heard i was talking bad bout them tongue.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 16 2013, 02:23 PM)
I felt snowfield has a higher % of 5*

Floats,giant and lady give good %

Any new player looking for 4* aces? I hv ace Talos (with max rebirth pair). By end of coli might be having ace Qiong Ji with phy+3 (rebirth pair as well) and ace Nara for sale as well. Cheap sell for fellow LYN members
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i just bought nara. should had told me earlier T___T

caught power fujin. >_< bad type. how much will this be? hoping to trade some bad/good types for other good/rebirth food.
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post Feb 16 2013, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 16 2013, 02:54 PM)
seriously
my ace vamp really pwn a lot of guardians for me
nvr try golem yet
as I didn't catch one yet
bt remember
ace vamp is quite the keeper

max lvl unstoned
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my 4* armada is ready to fire up. all lining up for rebirth. haven't found ace caim's partner.

Slowly trading away some cards. I need more speed in my deck i think. with some high def ones and a few high wis attackers. smile.gif
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post Feb 16 2013, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 16 2013, 06:26 PM)
I just bought an Ace Nara Lv1 at 3 (iii)
If u want u can have him
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nice take him. I saw analysis of vamp vs nara, nara wins by landslide. but arguable cos vamp gets revive later.


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post Feb 17 2013, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 17 2013, 12:38 AM)
3* aces getting hot now

btw
did u go to the new dungeon?
got alm card if go thru correct path 3 times
Fortuna (Latin: Fortūna, equivalent to the Greek goddess Tyche) was the goddess of fortune and personification of luck in Roman religion. She might bring good luck or bad: she could be represented as veiled and blind, as in modern depictions of Justice, and came to represent life's capriciousness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortuna

And boy are we in good luck because this is a literally free Almighty up for grabs for everyone when you complete the limited time dungeon 3 times if you fulfill the right conditions. Let's have a closer look to see if this card is worthy of spending the time and effort to get her. Pics are not mine and only for reference.

Cool
user posted image

Cool (Fully stoned except MP)
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Cool Reborn (To be confirmed...)
Skillset:

Cunning +10%
Darkness +4
G Cunning +20%
Light +4
Mass Cunning +25%
As usual, since this is a giveaway card by SE, it's only available in Cool type only. Just something that everyone should know, this card is similar to Boon of Gods and non-tradable. So it may be a good thing for those still yet to have a taste of acquiring an Almighty. It can be reborn but SE has yet to announced which guardian it can reborn with so I'll update everyone once we have news on that.

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Let's take a closer look at Almighty Fortuna. Stats wise, pretty mediocre, but she does have a very decent amount of HP to be considered a tanker. She's equipped with wisdom buff spells (Cunning, G Cunning and Mass Cunning), along with default Darkness +4 and Light +4, makes her the ideal elemental tanker type to use. With 2 elemental spells to boot, reskilling her is relatively easy and you only need 100 MP more to get her to cast +4 twice including both buffs. However bear in mind that if you choose to skill her with Mass Cunning, she would require more mana to do so, hence I would think ideally you should only skill her with it if you choose to reborn her. So in total, we're looking at least to see Almighty Fortuna having 3100 MP at level 70 (100 + 600 + 2400) in order for that build to be viable. Despite so, she wouldn't be that coli-usable due to the LS/QS/Revive environment that current colis are based so. There's definitely plenty of replacements for her in terms of better Almighties and Regular guardians to choose from.

Nonetheless, despite it's shortcomings, it's still a wonderful reward for players given it's attainability if you put in the effort to complete the current dungeon event. For those players especially who are single, she may be the perfect companion for you since she'll be loyal and for the very fact that she's not tradable.

Well good luck to everyone trying to win her heart! Hope you get your own Almighty Fortuna soon!
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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 17 2013, 12:39 AM)
Don't play play. FSeMP 3* Aces can challenge unstoned decent 5* deck.
Soon, they will be REBORN 3* Aces FSeMP (insert evil laughter soundtrack)

FallenOut: I heard the dungeon is rather tough. Though I think I should be able to progress with my deck. Just reborn my ace phoenix, so a bit weakened till it's up to level 70.
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nice art work smile.gif good hp but the other stats are so so. +20 and +25wis is just crazy. tongue.gif maybe swap with +3skills to cast more since i think it'll kill easily too.



guys, for behe, chaotic or brave? smile.gif
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post Feb 17 2013, 01:07 PM

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i got few good offers:

this guys offering fast chariot,chao s.bird and fast gilga for my fast thor and int banshee which isn't a good deal, but trying get that chariot.

how much is fast chariot?
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post Feb 17 2013, 01:13 PM

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rebirth coming guys. tongue.gif
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post Feb 17 2013, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 17 2013, 01:14 PM)
4* recommendation:
Vampire
Narasimha
Horus
Golem
Qiong Ji
There's a lot more, but you can just try looking at either of these for your deck.
Element is not quite important. You can have Fire type guardian but simply give it Darkness +4 skill. Its just that your fire guardian will be weak against water element attacks (obviously).
Wow, Fast chariot. Highly sought after, very good deck starter and will have Quick Strike after Reborn. I think Sonic Chariot is superior than Ace Chariot.
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fast thor should worth more than him in terms of market value? since chaotic s.bird and fast gilga (don't really fancy) aren't best types. fast thor and int banshee are pretty much best after ace. so... not really a good trade? asking him how much to let go his chariot. smile.gif

tried offering power fujin + brave gilga for his chaotic behe ;p failed. haha. brave is just decent right?
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post Feb 17 2013, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 17 2013, 01:19 PM)
Oo not bad.. smile.gif
I think nowadays sexy and int golem also very expensive?
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i got fast golem, lazy sell. just gonna rebirth him with my ace. tongue.gif dont care. haha. unless who wan'ts trade with me? tongue.gif

btw, just so you know, the coin SHTs all got me a hell loads of 3*s. no 5* or not even 4*s. well done SE. i'm not buying any more coins tongue.gif haha. wasting money. saving for canon lens/ipad or proposal money. lol.

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post Feb 17 2013, 01:50 PM

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dai gors, fast thor 1:1 fast chariot worth it?
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post Feb 17 2013, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 17 2013, 01:59 PM)
for me i wont do it .. fast thor now got last stand .. which is a very good skill ..

and newer guardian like thor have high resale value .. and thor artwork is so much nicer .. to me .. chariot is ugly .. lol ..

and chariot need to rebirth it , only can get 1st strike .. getting another fast chariot .. expensive ..

if you interested in 2 best type .. chao behe + fast domi for your fast thor . does let me know smile.gif

for sifu's :

me too wanna ask ~

my chao behe + fast dom both FSeMP -----> ace frost nix .. good ?
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thanks bro. i think it's not so worth it too in terms of market price. smile.gif
can't have fast domi cos cannot feed such a good card to my ace tongue.gif haha. it's ok bro. i'll pass ;p

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 17 2013, 02:02 PM)
BTW ... for new 5*

Thor ---> chao>brave/fast/power>int/sexy/cool

morrighan ---> fast> power> brave/chao>sexy/int/cool

frost nix ---> Fast>power/int>sexy/chao

is this correct ?
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my view

Thor --> fast>power/chao>brave>cool>sexy/int
Morrighan --> same
Hnix --> same. give him +4phy if it's power.
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post Feb 17 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 17 2013, 02:29 PM)
hmmmm ... i also dunno which is best etc .. guess now will have more mix and match build smile.gif

ahhh ~ you already have a ace dominion .. nvm nvm , maybe next time ...

still thinking , should i trade my int golbez to brave golbez .. any recommendation from the sifu here ?
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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 17 2013, 03:16 PM)
i'll try find my storage device .. see i got an good type 4* for u or not also ..

bro negisf ~

u got use golbez before ? int type 1 : 1 to brave type .. better or no go ?

zzzz ~ dunno why , i feel my int golbez performance not as good as expected .. my serenade is much better ..
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int is better imo. cos it can cast 2x +4 and 1 +3? i personally won't trade for more def in this case.

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