which is more powerful? My parents plan to buy a "big" yet stylish SUV. They care about how powerful are they in real life because this car will be using in my hometown Sabah. Where road doesn't like KL, they have big holes and cracking road. Really awful

Budget around 150k. Owners of one of the car comment will be much appreciated

you mentioned POWER is a high requirement.
your choice is obvious as one of the cars u mentioned above is known to be under powered

seriously? sorry I noob in car, I never know that.

Subaru = power

For Sabah road. Better buy pajero sport. Tougher & bigger.
Subaru XV and Mazda CX5 just an urban suv. If just using in KK, ok la..

I thought TOYOTA is the best SUV and/or 4WD cars?

Go for Subaru. Tahan lasak

I am not the one saying Subaru XV and Mazda XV as urban suv.
But Subaru and Mazda said that in their advertisement and their marketing strategy. In their manual also said like that it's urban suv not mean for challenging off-road.

Subaru XV CVT will not stand tough road in Sabah.

So, you saying mazda CX5 better is it?

CX-5 better if 4WD version.

But as urban suv, It didnt have Low gear or high gear 4WD that u can choose which usually can found in Toyota or Mitsubishi or automated setting that U can find in land rover as example.

Somemore U need smaller rims wt bigger tyre if U plan to drive in Sabah. 19" or 17" rims for CX5 is too big.

This post has been edited by khusyairi: Feb 15 2013, 02:57 PM

actually, I am very curious as to the concept of x-over. I mean, those who bought, are buying or eyeing an x-over, what attract you to go for x-over.

It's a cross breed of SUV and a HatchBack. However, it compromise the road handling of a HB (being taller), and also lack the offroad capability of a SUV (most are 2-wheels or AWD, no 4wD option).

Dun get me wrong, I am not making a critic statement but rather a curious mind want to know.

This post has been edited by swing123: Feb 15 2013, 02:58 PM

This picture is the reason why these cars are popular at certain places
They aren't exactly off-road, but just very very poor road conditions.
driving a normal car would make you cry.

true! I hate when drive my City on this kind of road

but yet there are people still buy 350z, RX8, Camry etc

Note that I stay in Tawau, not capital city like Kota Kinabalu.

Come on, the tests in that video aren't that challenging, are they? I'm quite certain my Kangoo could do most of them too, and the Kangoo 4x4 could do basically all of em (except maybe for one test, afraid it'll topple over).

Do this with an XV and I'll be impressed:




Anyway, Citroen C5? Press a button and the car will lift up, letting you cross this kind of terrain.

eh guys... we are getting carried away.
TS said he wanted a big, stylish and powerful SUV, not an offroad vehicle.
sabah road is bad, but they are still roads (albeit horrible) la aiyoyo

Haha, I'm just against calling the XV more than just an urban SUV.

Stylish not necessarily be able to work in off road conditions. U could buy a used X5 or Land Rover. But new ones i would not look at the Subaru or Mazda really. Since in your place, u should realize that sometimes driving what a lot of other people drive there makes more sense than buying something that does not work. Not necessarily mean u should own a Hilux (Which i know a lot of that there). But being true off road SUV like Land Rovers, Pajero or even a Land Cruiser.

if the roads are as bad as you say , you`re better of with the hilux...

cx-5 more urban car
xv can go offroad a bit

I'd suggest get something like fortuner or xtrail instead.

Personnel preference would go for cx5 instead of xv.
Outlook - cx5
Features - cx5 gadgets and bose sound system
Performance - cx5 skyactive engine win over the fuel consumption

Personnel preference would go for cx5 instead of xv.
Outlook - cx5
Features - cx5 gadgets and bose sound system
Performance - cx5 skyactive engine win over the fuel consumption

i see....again, pardon my ignorance, isn't cross-over built on a sedan chasis which mean low clearance, also are they using stiffer suspension like the one in a true SUV? how would the cross-over help in navigating pothole roads in the photo?

not ignorance la. Just you never driven in such conditions before.
2 most important thing about cross-overs VS normal sedan cars:

1. 4-wheel drive (and traction control) is very important.
If you drive in mud roads then you will know 2-wheel's disadvantage. I kena both front wheels stuck in mud last time when drive in kampung during rain. the 2 rear wheels just sit there staring at you and ask "apa lu mau?"

2. also another strong point of cross-over is the higher ground clearance than normal sedans.
so not easy to hit the undercarriage of car in potholes or poor roads.
not forgetting a higher profile allows driver to navigate and see better ahead on road conditions.

There is a huge market for cross-overs simply because true off-roaders usually lack the luxury and comfort, and true off-roaders are meant for...as the name implies, off-road (like jungle trekking, mount climb, etc) cross-overs are usually inexpensive in comparison and has the benefits of both worlds.

This post has been edited by durianpuff: Feb 20 2013, 02:32 PM

I think that is my "igorant" points. There are quite a few "soft-roader SUV" options available in the market. So, why not those soft-SUVs if that is the case. A cross-over does not have the best of both sedan/SUV but instead it has the reverse (half empty POV, lol).

There's a market for everyone.
I rather have more choices, than be limited.

this I agreed

as i said in my first post, I am not meant to be a critic but rather want to find out what's "the" selling point of cross-over compare to SUV or sedan. Well, as you well said, there is market for everyone

Check out Ssangyong Aryton....it's a pretty impressive 2.0 Diesel SUV with AWD. And it only costs less than rm130k. Cheapest AWD SUV diesel.

The torque (360nm) is not a laughing matter and will put to shame those highway warriors.

it is like mobile phones. it slowly becoming a cross-over between a phone and a computer now
to say it is bad, there are cons. but the pros far outweight the cons.

smart phone different story, no matter what innovative features they can pack it in, they are always handicapped by the battery technology, which the last commercially-viable breakthrough was Lithion and that was like donkey years ago. Until the day they can pack nuclear to power all electronic device, we can then have a glowing phone

Why buy crossover?
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-models/c...ver-vehicle.htm

Crossover benefits?
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car-models/c...cles.htm#page=0

Just test drove both xv and cx 5 over the weekend and am seriously considering buying the xv. Cx5 handling and engine was surprisingly bad... I really wanted the cx 5 before the test drive but not anymore...

However, I've still got one last issue with it. Is subaru's general maintenance and service more expensive than say, the crv, cx5 and also the asx? Do I have to wait very long for parts if I ever had to change the side mirrors or the bumper if I had an accident with the car?

Thanks guys!

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something to share CX5 AWD vs Forester AWD
*make sure watch it till the end , TQ

forester is much more expensive n powerful compared to cx5

hmm... im interested to know about the fuel consumption comparison between cx5 and xv. as i wasnt able to test it during the short test drive... Any thoughts from any one?!!

im still quite undecided!!

i use to love the cx5 and watch in amazement whenever i see it on the road. it is such a handsome looking car.

However.. all of that went to dust after i test drove the cx5.. xv felt so much planted on the ground and especially at high speed, it is super stead... engine and gear change felt a lot more smooth when i step on the accelerator as compared to the cx5 who just ROAARRR whenever you need to pick up speed.

so now my dilemma is whether to sacrifice slightly on the handling and engine and gear responsiveness and get a more popular brand of cx5.. or go for the great handling of subaru and sacrifice on the second hand value and less popular brand..

I guess at the end of the day it depends on how you use your car and how you like to drive.

I would say CX-5 is actually more comfortable, whereas the XV gives you a better drive. If you spend more time in slow moving traffic, I would say CX-5 sounds better and have a good probability of maintaining resale value compared to XV.

But if you like driving around and usually drive in a spirited manner, XV is quite good provided you are willing to sacrifice on resale value, some boot space and CVT noise.

For FC u can refer to the Asia auto fuel efficiency awards 2012 and 2013 under compact SUV ~ XV is perform 7L/100km get 2nd place is same with land rover freelander 2.2diesel ~
If taken cx5 to compare, dun forget to compare the AWD system with 2WD that selling almost same price ~ ans also the rear suspension that cX 5 is using multi link and XV is using double wish bone ~ do some compare on that

there are too many cx5 on the road right now. XV is a looker, if u drive it u'll become popular around your neighbourhood

If you're looking for a big and stylish SUV, the Hyundai Santa Fe 2013 comes to mind.

it definitely looks stylish! Has anyone test drove it already?

But to be frank.. both sportage and santa fe are not on my list of consideration at all.. Its still between cx5 or xv!!

Both are good. CX5 was named as candidates in European Car of The Year 2012 while XV as candidates in European Car of The Year 2013

Are u sure everything better? 2WD better then AWD? Handling better then XV? Stability better then XV? Performance better then XV? are u drive both car before?

bro interested of XV? Better do consideration fast o ~ cos discount maybe until end of this year only~ interested of orange color XV?

if no discount there will be no more customer unless MI gives extra accesories

Come and look for me for a test drive
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in mean time you see my post

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry63762314

Come and look for me for a test drive biggrin.gif laugh.gif
Sean 013 283 2635

in mean time you see my post

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry63762314

XV is AWD all time

CX5, you would have a choice of 2WD

But, i personally feel SUV, AWD is good to have...based on the weight

isnt there like an old pajero or smtg similar?

those like 30years already to date still most hard and tahan lasak and comfy one. i prefer those

those are meant for long lasting.....older built are lasting...to be frank

Modern SUV perhaps good for normal road use only...does not able to cope off road...

I think stil have discount de ~ only dun have 16k lo~

but still have many Malaysia consumer still dun understand what the benefit of AWD~

Care to explain then?

http://youtu.be/FOmZIu_y1js
See the differn of AWD in different brands~

http://youtu.be/P21lwEYY-D0
After u see this video u can imagine that what will happen of only 2WD car.

After u see this 2 video still not understand then can direct ask me~

Post some pic of ur both car~

wow! good one! i wouldnt mind buying both! one for my wife and one for myself haha!

How is the maintenance cost like for both the cars? Have you managed to bring them for the first few services..?

Bro out of curiosity, is your CX-5 CBU or CKD?

SUBARU XV is better in handling&power, fuel saver, safety
Mazda CX5 is more stylish, feature and spec, new technology

test drive both, you will know which to choose.

Totally agree~~

Since Subaru XV has superb handling, wouldn't that mean a stiffer suspension = bumpy drive?

i only mention ''better'' handling comparison with CX5, superb handling is belongs to BMW

Stiffer suspension = bumpy drive belongs to Audi Q3 or Q5

it is not as hard as Q3 or Q5, but if you use to harrier soft soft suspension, yes, you can say it is bumpy.

if u have really test drive XV and compare other car , XV is using double wishbone in rear suspension (rear 2 wheel is jump individual ) compare with other brand are using multilink suspension (rear 2wheel is link together)

So u can imagine which 1is more bumby~

Saw 1 xv yesterday , I like!

Planning to have 1? now in oct running special promotion ~ and it must register in oct~

I see, so I presume its the batch with 19 inch rims or did you kena the subsequent rim downgrade? My bro in law has one as well. I think it is the best batch of all the CX-5s so far.

psssst i give you something special , come come

PM me if u have special promo

Interested to have XV ?~ let see my package ~
check pm

Did Mazda have any even like this?

I thought I already closed a topic similar to this.. TS has gone missing for 8 months and topic hijacked by an XV owner dupe and a Subaru salesman.