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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V128, YAT YEE FATT !!!!

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post Feb 27 2013, 12:07 PM

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School holiday start from 23rd Mar to 30th Mar, most likely fall on these few days in between.

Dissolution should be fall on 1st Mar to 8th Mar
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post Feb 27 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Feb 27 2013, 12:15 PM)
thumbup.gif  thanks for the news.... thumbup.gif
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don't take it seriously, just my wild guess laugh.gif
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post Feb 28 2013, 10:58 AM

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I'm at setia convention centre, roughly about 100+ shareholders here. Anybody here as well?
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post Mar 3 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Feb 28 2013, 11:39 AM)
For a company this size.. only 100+ shareholders?
Any freebies?
Looks like a boring and predictable AGM/EGM? Because the stock price is not moving at all.
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Roughly 100+ shareholders, plus some journalist and analyst.

No door gift provided and very much predictable AGM and EGM.

Company will still focus on branding by incurring more Sales & Marketing cost, for its future 3-5 years project. Semenyih land acquisition final price at RM13/sq ft, Tan Sri Liew don't intend to drag the issue to court as it will affect the company future project. Battersea project sold out about 95%, Phase 2 will be the refurbishment of 4 chimney and power plant, they will transform it to Retail, Office and Apartment unit, Retail lot will be held by the company.


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post Mar 4 2013, 11:14 AM

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those who bought PetGas at 13.36 is truly "durian runtuh" price!!!
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post Mar 5 2013, 02:03 PM

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Sadly market don't have much bargain, i believe many forumers here loading with elephant gun brows.gif
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post Mar 5 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 5 2013, 03:27 PM)
I only have elephant glue sad.gif
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your glue must be in a barrel then icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 7 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Mar 7 2013, 11:42 AM)
From my perception, I think the best time for BN to call for election is over. The best time was a few months ago.

1. The BR1M effect is almost gone now. It's the same as when an employee gets a salary increment, then for the first few months the employee is very motivated. After a while, employee goes back to his old ways and the  positive effect of the salary increment on his attitude is gone. Same thing with BR1M.

2. When government passed the law for minimum wage, employers were unhappy. But the workers were happy. This happiness could have translated to votes for the government. But after some time, the government allowed the employers to defer the implementation of the minimum wage. Now you have unhappy employers + unhappy workers. The unhappy workers could vote the Opposition just to show their unhappiness towards the flip-flop decision.
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I concur with u, but the best time for BN should be last year.

Regarding the minimum wages, businessman will absorb the cost temporarily, then it will transfer to consumer, who suffer the most? Consumer. Most of the food products i've seen, price had been increase by at least 10%, i might be wrong in this matter sweat.gif

I understand why government urging to implement minimum wages, is to encourage company going for automation.


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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 7 2013, 12:35 PM)
How to automate harvesting of palm oil?  laugh.gif  Use robots ah?  doh.gif

P/S whoever can design a practical automatic machine to harvest palm oil FFB, guarantee instant multi millionaire... brows.gif
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What i mean is on manufacturing sector, not applicable on Plantation sector tongue.gif

Bro gark, are u working in plantation sector?

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Mar 7 2013, 01:00 PM)
Sorry for my negative mind set. Is it because of completing some "important" things like awarding some major govt contracts to you-know-who, clearing up past deeds, etc etc and thus the delay?

Any major govt contracts awarded in the past 6 months? If so, to whom?

I really hope selling MAS to one UMNO guy with govt subsidy on the jet fuel for the next x years WILL NOT go ahead!

Cheerio.
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AFAIK some tolls concession already awarded to some cronies last few months ago.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 7 2013, 01:59 PM)
Not every manufacturing can be fully automated.
Also, automation can come with big cost which SME may not have the capability of install.
I give a real eg. (real figure)
A fullly automated machine cost RM5 million, vs a semi-auto or highly labour used machine (which both produce the same item) cost 500k, which one SME will/can go for it?

Also my company previously install some PLC related for auto-decision/process, when something wrong time, it is hell a big hassle/problem to find a right personnel out there to troubleshoot, aka not enough skill personnel in the related field. If using relay type (old fashioned), then it is easier to solve.

This some may not understand, so I give more simple eg.
A conventional petrol car, vs hybrid.
When a conventional car broke down, many mechanic out there can repair for you.
But if a hybrid car broke down, then the only option is sending back to original manufacturer.

So if invest in high tech time, especially in manufacturing line, one also must ensure we enough personnel, skill surrounding to operate as well as troubleshoot it.

It is when one really involve in the field, one will realise, it is not as simple as talk like
get rid of labour, use automation, solve the problem.
It reality it is not as simple as that.
Some labour job, although look easy, but if want to be fully automated, can be very costly and can be involved quite technical thing of stuff, some even impossible.

Take for eg. furniture manufacturing, how can be fully automated? Almost impossible. Every furniture come with different design, and constantly changing of design, a simply nailing process want to be fully automated?
Some said, can, yes, definitely can, use robotic arm, very flexible, can turn inside out, plenty of dimension. How much it cost? hundred of thousand up to million
How much to hire a labour to do it? Rm1000 per month.

Why manufacturing houses/MNC are in Asia region?
Because of cheaper labour cost.
If automation is a solution, then we should see massive manufacturing activities in developed countries, not in Asia.

Can janitor/cleaner in shopping mall/hotel being replaced by automation?
Can brick building, construction being automated?

There are a lot of "pain" faced by manufacturing line that many people do not understand until one really involved in it.
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Thank you for the insight taikor cherroy notworthy.gif
Let say for those MNC company, don't u think it is much feasible to move to automation?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 7 2013, 03:33 PM)
MNC has no problem due to scale of sales and capital they have, but for SME, they do not have both the scale and capital.

That's why we do not see complaints from MNC regarding the min wages, as their profit margin is good, due to scale and unique product (which is not easily accessible by others or SME). Also their employee is being paid better than SME generally.

While many SME can be actually making profit due to so called "left over" business or peripheral product that do not interested by big corporation, whereby profit margin some even in single digit number.

Bare in mind, automation is always costly compared to labour, but it is the scale/volume that can offset the automation cost, whereby SME won't able to achieve.

So min wages will hit the hardest on SME.
SME may not have the scale, but SME contribute a lot to the economy as a whole.

Min wages, the effect already being seen, a bowl of mee rise at least Rm0.50, some even more, at least what I had encountered.
Who is the loser? Consumer pay more, saving value shrinking (including EPF),
While the lower paid that getting min wages is happy? Life could even more difficult due to rising cost.
The one I see is the happiest is foreign workers, sending home (their home country) even more money.
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That is why they should start implement on certain industry and certain company (MNC) for trial.

One of the food manufacturing company i've seen suffer 20-30% increase in wages cost, the owner will definitely transfer the cost to the end user. Besides, rental nowadays also killing a lot of small businesses, prime area rental for ground floor easily cost above RM10k, i can't imagine how are those shop going to survive.
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:01 PM)
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These prime area ... who owns them ah? tongue.gif
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Property developer and their buddies, that's why u can see most of the corner shoplot sapu by their own people tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:14 PM)
I thought you were talking about them high rentals in the shopping malls. tongue.gif
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Shopping mall rental even more absurd, increase average 3-10% annually laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 7 2013, 04:42 PM)
That's why many people love/chasing mall reit.  biggrin.gif
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But be aware of over-supply of shopping mall, especially those quite run down and charging high car park fees tongue.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 7 2013, 04:48 PM)
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These poor shops can survive ah?  tongue.gif
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It depend what the shop selling, most restaurant or food outlet hardly survive, unless they owned it.

I saw a lot of food outlet or cafe open barely survive for a year, rental and wages will kill them if the volume is not high. But i saw food outlet with higher pricing can survive through, a kopitiam selling coffee at RM2 per cup and a cafe selling coffee at RM5 per cup, but still consumer will prefer that cafe with cozy environment. Consumer spending habit change drastically in big city, that's why Starbucks open more and more outlet in Malaysia laugh.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 8 2013, 04:46 PM)
Everyone in Malaysia is also eying the blood bath after election result announced. If everyone aim to buy on dip, who is going to sell?  rolleyes.gif
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Foreign fund? Maybe they will trigger the fire and cause havoc laugh.gif
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Mar 12 2013, 11:26 AM)
forum become quiet today..........property in profit taking, while beer still bullish
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everyday different theme laugh.gif

QUOTE(jy1905 @ Mar 12 2013, 11:56 AM)
hah, bumber divvy hope again from miser kseng
landbank news again
beh sien meh

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...idend-hope.html
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Very conservative type of company, like Orient laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Mar 12 2013, 01:40 PM)
In Malaysia, a lot of Indians went to the pawnshop, relatively a lot more compare to other races.
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Among all the states in Malaysia, Kelantan is the one generating most from pawnshop and jewellery shop
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 12 2013, 05:02 PM)
One bowl of Mee is costing rm 28 min and many people line up.

That was/is happening in KL ( last week ) nod.gif
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Must be Japanese Ramen laugh.gif
Indeed spending habit for middleclass has change a lot
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Ah boon, i see u kacau kacau again tongue.gif

Anyway i used to think of collecting dividend stock, but without growth, the dividend will just constantly remain as the past, maybe a bit of increase, that's why i start to ditch this methodology.
Growth + dividend is the best method, growth in the future will increase dividend definitely, the bonus part would be capital appreciation.

Firstly, i think an investor must assess the downside and upside, if downside risk is much higher based on personal assessment, is better to hold and wait patiently.

Dlady entry price at 49 indeed is a high entry price, in my opinion the downside risk is much more higher. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 13 2013, 11:54 AM)
Ah Tan,

I talk stocks and 'investing' mah. tongue.gif
Tell me if I am wrong that majority here just talk about dividends only without focusing on other factors.
Like you, I would say dividends is good but the dividends must be sustainable.
And for the dividends is sustainable, there are so many other factors to consider.

Dutch Lady example is just one simple example to show why one cannot simply chase a dividend stock la. 

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I have no comment against those focus on dividends only, different people have different methodology for "investing".
I know they are aiming for passive income, which able to beat inflation, at the same time, use the passive income to re-invest, make the return compounding.

The entry price is really based on how u project the company future, and it require some instinct laugh.gif


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