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post Mar 9 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 9 2016, 10:18 PM)
Do you want to get the forum into trouble? Discussing illegal substances so openly?
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Was about to tag you and here you are.

To begin with its typical the blind leading the blind scenario. I can just imagine what kind of abuse he'll get if he post this kind of shit, looking like how he is now at an actual roid forum.

20 pounds of solid muscle in 3 months. That alone is already a joke.
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post Mar 9 2016, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Mar 9 2016, 11:02 PM)
You are obviously not stupid, so how can you be so thick in this instance? If you were a doctor you'd be losing your license right now for clinical negligence, blindly "prescribing" a generic cycle set out for someone you have never met and who obviously has no fucking clue on the matter.
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Nope. He is stupid. Anyone can do quick Google search and learn the kinks of it. I myself can lay out 20 different cycles with different stacks, taken from various sites and forum.

The thead below literally sums it up.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3875902

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post Sep 14 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Sep 14 2016, 02:19 PM)
Bros, what assistance work could I do when I hit plateau in overhead press?

It seems like I've been stucked at this weight forever, like 3-4times I have deloaded and work my way backup, while my other lifts have progressed with time.

Plateau at 45kg (with bar)
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how's your diet? cutting or bulking?
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post Sep 14 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Sep 14 2016, 05:21 PM)
To be perfectly honest, am not tracking my calorie intake & macros.  doh.gif

But if I can progress just fine in other lifts then should be ok right.

By the way, my intention is to clean bulk, I take whey protein twice a day and eat as I see fit. I can't track those calories and macros cause I eat out for every meal..  sweat.gif
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Could be technique, nutrition etc. I managed to improved my pressing by fine tuning the technique and form. Prolly you can record your workout and post it here for the rest to see.
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post Sep 27 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Sep 27 2016, 12:48 PM)
may i know what i should do now? ditch the dropsets and move on to 3x5, 5x5 those kind of programs?
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1) know what you want to do/achieve. lifting blindly will get you nowhere. you want to improve your aesthetics, then focus more on hypertrophy workouts. you want to become stronger. focus more on strength workout. There are plenty of programs scattered on the net. go find one that suits you.

Though to be honest, if you are really benching 30kg (2x 5kg plates + 20kg bar) for a mere 5 reps, i'd suggest you focus on getting stronger first.

Nutrition is another thing. you'll find yourself stalling pretty fast if you don't take care of the diet.

2) once decided, stick with it.

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post Sep 27 2016, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Sep 27 2016, 06:32 PM)
Im benching around 20kgx1 plate + 10kgx1 plate for ard 5 reps for drop sets.

I dont really attempt higher weights due to lack of faith in myself and also im a solo lifter. Dont wana die halfway thru.
If i lift heavier weights i might not able to complete my drop sets.

Nutrition wise im taking about 150g protein in 3 meals + shakes in between
Hmmm what i want to achieve. Prolly stronger till i can bench 2 plates and 12% bf @ 75kg?
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so you're basically benching 80kg total. if the goal is to gain strength, lots of ways to do it. but the general idea is to stick to the same weight for the compound movements for a few sets at low rep count.

if you're stalling, i'd say your diet is the one holding you back.
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post Sep 28 2016, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Sep 28 2016, 08:27 AM)
hmmm what do you suggest i do with my diet?

cut down on carbs? go on caloric deficit? or bulking mode?
alright thanks. moving forward will remove drop sets from my workouts
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That will depend on 1) where you're at now 2) what's your priority. For my case I wanted to see the abs first. So I started focusing on reducing bodyfat. Gained some strength along the process (noob gains) but of course wasn't as much as if I were to bulk.

Nutrition is the most important key at the end of the day regardless if you want to reduce bf % or to gain strength. So no matter how you train, make sure you work around your way around that.

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post Nov 7 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Nov 7 2016, 04:02 AM)
Ah fk me, just finish this week's meal prep weighting the raw ingredient
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Just Google the calorie count for raw stuffs and based it on that. Cooked ingredients are harder to track.


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post Dec 5 2016, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 5 2016, 07:59 PM)
I am still cutting. Maybe for another 4 weeks. I have not achieve the look I want. I am planning to add total 1000kcal a week average 140kcal a day, deload my main lifts and work it up again. Keep the intensity at 35 sec between set. Just like what I did when I add that 600kcal for 2 days. My bench press is still going up though. Hopefullyit will work.
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What are your macros like?

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post Dec 6 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 6 2016, 10:50 AM)
4 major days (back, chest, legs, shoulders), 1 abs, 1 supplement (lighter day). Every day I will have 15 to 18 sets, including my major lifts. Touch up stuff at night every night. No cardio. Cannot afford to do cardio. I have tried cardio but it screwed my lifts the next day even when I was having more calories back then in beg 2016. My cardio is the time under tension between sets and I find it I am more effective that way.

I am adding 140kcal of carbs a day average now. Upping my calorie count by 140 average a day, with deload on my major lifts. Will work up those major lifts again from there.
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Hm 1400 is kinda too low even if you are cycling your calories weekly. From the looks of it 5 days low and 2 days high (and not that high even). What's your height btw? judging from your weight, probably around 170cm+ ish?

From my own experience,

1) going that low on calories and still making progress usually involves noob gains. and damn i'm surprised that you are able to get up to those numbers (especially the squat) while being on a cut, and on very low calories as well

2) bear in mind that there is a limit on how much muscle you can grow while on a cut. Eventhough people kept saying that you can't cut and gain muscle, but for people who had alot of at, this is kinda possible when the body is still happily burning it as energy when you're on deficit. Only when i started to se the abs, the lift started to stall. There are sitll some improvements here and there but it won't be as linear progress anymore.

I personally think that your focus now should be more towards maintaining the numbers on the lifts that you're doing right now while adjusting your calories/macros to further lose the fat. There's a reason why they say most bodybuilders are at their weakest during shows. You should then focus back on getting the numbers up when you're ready to do a clean bulk.

Lastly, since on top of the caloric cycling you are also doing carb cycling, why not go totally off the carbs on off days and the include the carbs on either weekends or major lifting days? You're gonna feel like shit on off carbs day though. but these are what the pros are doing at least (including the natty ones)

my 2 cents.


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post Dec 6 2016, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Dec 6 2016, 04:00 PM)
Well, I was fat, and I reduced my kcal intake from 2700kcal, gradually to 1400kcal. 1400kcal has been there for a year if not more as far as I can remember. That 5 days low, 2 days high only came last 3 months and that is the time I started becoming more shreded. Veins starts to show, abs starts popping out, rhomboid starts to be visible. The side gills (or however you spell it) starts to be visible too. I am 165cm only.

I have been lifting for 2 years 11 months with focus on major lifts. Not sure if it is noob gain but my major lifts started with 30kg on BP, squat on empty bar, DL with rounded back on 60kg. Damn that rounded back.

I felt energetic after I added that 1200kcal extra over a week, but the effect did not come after 2 weeks. That being said, after I eat that 2000kcal x 2 on 1st of September, I felt the effect only on the 15th September. Perhaps in between that time I deloaded and work it up slowly. From mid September to mid Nov I felt superman. PR breaking here and there. Through the almost 3 years lift, I felt that my body take changes 2 weeks after I make amendments.

I will be focusing on the major lifts nonetheless. Looks like it is time to do some changes. My BP just now dropped from 100 to 90kg. Looks like it is time to take the rest of the week off to sleep it in. Have been training like that since beginning of September. Felt like shit now. So hopefully with the deload and 140kcal more calories I can keep the intensity and I will feel like a superman again.
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Since you decided to focus on improving your lifts, then you're on right track by increasing the calories. goodluck.

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post Dec 12 2016, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Dec 10 2016, 03:02 PM)
explain o wise one...
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Simply because it's against him. Lmao. Typical skinny guy with abs. No big deal.
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post Jun 9 2017, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(meee @ Jun 9 2017, 09:03 AM)
hi guys,

normally i train after work(6pm), 4 times a week.

so i plan to push myself harder and see the result faster.

the gym is near to my office and i able to squeeze 30-45 min for a short workup/cardio after deduct traveling and eating time, perhaps i can do this 2-3 time a week.

im 170cm, 75kg, body fat: 20%.

This is my current routine after 6pm:
Monday: Arm & Cardio(10 min jogging after lifting)
Tuesday: Rest
Wednesday: Chest
Thursday: 1 Hour Yoga
Friday: Shoulder & Back(10 min jogging after lifting)
Saturday:Rest
Sunday: Legs

So guys, what do you think i should do during my lunch hour?
i plan to do 30 min jogging since my body fat is high, what you guy think?
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dedicated arm day blink.gif

and you pair up shoulders and back on the same day too. unless you training time is long, i kinda doubt you can put enough volume on those 2. i'd rather separate them and include arm as part of a superset or something. hell coming from a dude that hardly does any bicep curls or tricep workout, take my advice with grain of salt.

but i can still safely say my arms are still bigger than most of the curlbros in the gym. tongue.gif

and no, training harder doesn't necessarily guarantee a faster result. unless you have a solid workout and nutrition plan. that also depends on the individual.

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post Jun 10 2017, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(meee @ Jun 9 2017, 04:25 PM)
i understand that count the calories in/out is 1 of a major in workup journey, but everyone need to start somewhere right?

there's no way for me to study how muscles work, how to plan my routine, what should i eat, how much calories apple has... etc then only start to hit the gym, it would be too late.

i mean come on, it could be take years or ur whole life just to 100% understand about bodybuilding, that's why i always advise people to take ACTION first. you can learn while u doing it.

Learning from your mistake make your have a better understand why u should do it in proper way. it's not everything need to learn from textbook at initial stage.

like i said earlier, i havent study on counting macros and calories yet.
information given above might not in 'bodybuilding-term' (if that is a word), i'm still learning, and please go easy on me  tongue.gif  cheers
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true. most people will suggest slow and steady wins the race.

still, i wish the me 6 years ago would've been doing what i'm doing now (which actually just take a little bit more effort and time to track the macros and calories).


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post Jul 5 2017, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(rakyat @ Jul 5 2017, 01:16 PM)
Typo isit? If u managed to trim your bf% to 6% you should be advising us not asking what we think.

Recently I dropped my bf% fr 20% to 12.5% and it was really taxing both mentally and physically. I cannot imagine dropping to 6%. 

I used to do 3 sessions per week but abit different fr what you planned - I worked one big muscle w one small muscle (sort of like push, pull, legs) :
Monday - chest + triceps
Wednesday - back + biceps
Friday - legs + shoulders

I don't think you can work Chest and back on the same day without sagging off at the tail end of your workout.
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been doing chest + back since last year. so far so good though.

looking to change to PPL. but don't really fancy on going 6 times a week again (for complete cycle).

Or maybe PPL + UL for 5 days split.

only problem is push day means working 2 major muscle groups on the same day, chest and shoulders. unless the Push day focus on chest, the upper day focus on shoulders.

Designing a program sucks bangwall.gif

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post Aug 15 2017, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Aug 15 2017, 02:17 PM)
Dear bros, need some advice here:
I'm on push, pull, legs 3days/week program. I still want to progress in the weights in the big 3: bench, squat, deadlift, because ya'll know, it impresses no one in the gym tongue.gif. So I start with one of the big 3 at every workout, bench - push, dl - pull, squat - legs.
Thing is, I have been struggling to add weight to the workouts, hell I even struggled to lift the same weight from previous session.

I know that strength is somewhat a skill, so if I'm on the PPL split, should I forget about getting stronger (progression in the weight I lift)? Or the volume would eventually help me to get stronger, theoretically?
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are you eating at a surplus? what are your rep/set range?



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post Aug 15 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Aug 15 2017, 02:35 PM)
I believe I do eat at a surplus, but been scaling back lately. Waist has grown by an inch; from mirror it seems I have gained more muscles, so I'd like to think that my nutrition is still on point. Ok i'm gonna get sticks for this.

3 sets of 5 for bench & squat and 2 sets of 5 for DL. Every other workouts are 3 sets, rep varies from 10-15. Sometimes AMRAP that goes up to 30, but that's bicep curl as a finisher with really light weight, but it's curl, so probably should leave it out of discussion?
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those 3 sets of 5 for the bench, the workout is at what percentage of your 1RM? how long have you been on the routine (as in how many weeks have you been doing the same weight at 3x5)?

lol for the curls, well personally, if you goal is total body strength, they do help i guess, for instance for your bent over or pendlay rows. but the rows work out the biceps just fine. so it ultimately depends on your priorities at the end. If it were me I'd remove them and add more major bodypart compounds or accessories. Strengthening them helps more than having a big biceps and triceps for your bench and rows.


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post Aug 15 2017, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Aug 15 2017, 03:14 PM)
Never test my 1RM. But the weight i'm stuck at, been almost 1 month. Oh I should add that it's already after a deload as I had to miss a total of 1 mth of training (non-cumulative) over the last 2 months. It's about 90% from my best 5RM.

Yeah, the curls are at the end, after all the rows and other pulling workouts.
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So from what you mentioned, i'm assuming the deloads you had = dropping the weight by 10% of your 5RM and maintaining the 3x5?

if yes, what i can suggest to you is to drop the weight again (90% of your 5RM) but instead of 3x5, try increase the volume to about for example 4x8 or even 4x10. Keep this up for at least 2-3 bench session (yea gonna have to lower your ego for abit).

Another alternative, is to lower your rep range even further to about 3 reps and increase the sets.

Both method works for me. previously i was struggling to even get 5 reps for 90kg bench. So decided to experiment on set and rep count

10x3 at 92.5 kg for about 5-6 weeks if im not mistaken (problem with this is it takes too damn long)
8x6 - 8x8 at 80kg for 2 weeks
Then all of a sudden managed to easily get 6x5 at 90 kg

my bench 1RM increased as well (though the last time i tried 1RM was 4-5 months ago).

So basically you should try a different workout pattern to reset the body since your body will definitely hit plateau if you keep doing the same routine (1 deload session is not enough for my case). Take your time and experiment. or hire a competent trainer to assess your training smile.gif

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post Aug 15 2017, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Lionel90 @ Aug 15 2017, 04:05 PM)
Thanks for the solid advice bro, it confirms that volume is what would help me to tackle the issue.

But then, since I do the volume work after bench press with other workouts; usually OHP/Inclined & close grip bench, does that count?

Actually, dont have to be too specific and relate to my case, just theory would be fine. That way if I dont see progress I would know something is wrong. biggrin.gif
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Lol basically to reset your body again. Do something totally different for 2 or 3 weeks. Arnold's principle of shocking the muscle is true to some extent. The reason why newbies can easily gain strength initially is because of this as well. You're just trying to recreate the same condition by doing something totally different.

Of course not to drag it to the point where youre actually losing the strength. So 2 or 3 weeks should be more than enough.


 

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