like to pick yr brains, knowing u r big ai fan...

why hard to telan at that price? alam impian alebit freehold looks same bet to me, if not worse.

this rimbayu holds ijm promise to make it good at a starting point.

ai after 6-7 years can't dun have one school and one shop - still a good bet?

ok, tq for yr comments. i will make my 3rd visit to ai before yr end, see if i will hv a diff opinion after 5 yrs.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Feb 23 2013, 07:37 PM

can you share a bit about other reasons for not going in besides price?

since it's a group, chances it's not the first time buying, will be good to hear a bit more on the group's assessment. tq.

this is an interesting thought, tend to agree than disagree...

rewind to when these 2 places just started, i doubt the assessment is clear in anyone's mind. at that time, the chance of them coming out mediocre is there, just like we see many medicore ones today launched at about the same time. take bandar bukit raja vs setia alam and any dev in kepong/manjalara vs dpc, you know what i mean.

and herein lies the perennial challenge - how do you gauge the chance of great results vs mediocre results vs poor results of any dev at a early stage? big developer? location? schools+shops? facade? eco theme? price? stock market? politics?!!

perhaps there have been 3 main drivers in the 2008-2010 prop kaboom: 1. total mkt forces, 2. location/infra delivery and 3. developer ability to add value with commercial-schools-leisure. but that can't mean any major dev successful in one place can repeat elsewhere. but, chances are, certain things will come out right. on the other hand, if nothing great is seen in a dev after >5 yrs, one will have to rely on total mkt to push it up since 1 or the other factors were not fruitful and, some will say, "doomed right from the start".

i dun think there is a fixed formula for any investor to use but.... like some taikors already mentioned - best might be to just sit back for 1st or even 2nd launch and see what has or hasn't happend by then. this is probably a good approach, albeit conservative, not suitable for the kamikaze bbb fellas.

"far" is a relative term, depends on who's traveling to and from where.
leasehold... yes, not so good.
of course developer monitors all pre-launch comments incl lyn.
but u r probably right that given mostly enthusiastic comments, dev pushed price higher rather than lower compared to plan.
well, they don't need 3000, just 500 buyers will do!

this rimbayu...i estimate it'll be >90% investors. even as 1st movers, the risk is significant, imo.

flushed with debt la...

1. agree
2. speculators don't care, genuine homebuyers do
3. agree, lyn and all forums have little effect, only to the extent developer staff do read and discuss at low level meetings
4. it was 600k <1yr ago, now 700k? i doubt it...
5. agree, but "township" means different things to diff people, some want int't schools and malls, some contented with worship houses
6. alam impian is just another taman of houses, has been like that and will be like that for a long time. but ai now is for genuine buyers to live there while rimabyu is 99% for speculators, see the difference?
7, 8. rimbayu so far is perceived to be selling hottie, it worked! <120 units for the common fellas, can't speak that soon. insider bookings, bumi quota, discounts... not so difficult for any major to sell out using such tactics!