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TSbobins
post Feb 1 2013, 12:37 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi, someone mentioned last week that non Malaysian people can get a MyKad. i've tried to find out the information and emailed them, but no reply as yet.
Could some kind person tell me how difficult it is, the cost and wheher my 11 year old daughter could get one too.
Many thanks.
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post Feb 1 2013, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(bobins @ Feb 1 2013, 12:37 PM)
Hi, someone mentioned last  week that non Malaysian people can get a MyKad. i've tried to find out the information and emailed them, but no reply as yet.
Could some kind person tell me how difficult it is, the cost and wheher my 11 year old daughter could get one too.
Many thanks.
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Are you Indonesian or?
Can you help find out and share the information with us if you successfully applied a MyKad as a non-Malaysian?
It will be so much appreciated.
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post Feb 1 2013, 03:54 PM

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Not Indonesian, we are a British family. Part of the reason I want one is to take advantage of 'local' rates for hotels, attractions and, I am informed, you can use it as a passport.
I have sent an email to the relevant dept. As soon as I find anything out, I'll post it.
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post Feb 2 2013, 01:51 AM

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I'm not sure about that but as far as I know, MyKad is for citizens 12 years and above, so...11 years old is probably a long stretch.
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post Feb 2 2013, 03:05 AM

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MyKad is malaysian citizenship identity card, unless you are applying citizenship here and met the department requirement to acquire one any external source you encounter is most likely illegal or fake.

Check with the malaysian department. I heard of 2nd home program but I never heard of a instant MyKad unless the rumor of corruption are true.
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post Feb 2 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(bobins @ Feb 1 2013, 03:54 PM)
Not Indonesian, we are a British family. Part of the reason I want one is to take advantage of 'local' rates for hotels, attractions and, I am informed, you can use it as a passport.
I have sent an email to the relevant dept. As soon as I find anything out, I'll post it.
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You might be in for a bit of a wait unfortunately.

Leaving aside the sordid tales coming out from the Royal Commission of Inquiry into illegals in Sabah, the only way a non-M'sian citizen can (legally) get something like a M'sian Identification Card is via the Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) program, which provided MM2H ID cards which (in theory) should give MM2H visa holders most rights normally the reserve of M'sian citizens, including but not limited to being cleared at the immigration counter for M'sian citizens, and local rates for hotels.

However, in July 2010 the issuance of MM2H ID cards was " temporarily suspended" (http://www.mm2h.gov.my/announcement.php), and has been pretty much that way since.

You could go over to the nearest NRD office and see if you qualify for the MyPR card.
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post Feb 7 2013, 05:11 PM

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Maybe he mean iKad?
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post Feb 8 2013, 10:14 AM

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may be they only give to bangla, nepal, indon n filipino
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post Feb 9 2013, 11:47 AM

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Erection coming u sure get it even without registeration rclxms.gif
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post Feb 11 2013, 07:33 PM

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mykad isnt a discount card.

my angmor neighbor been living and working for over 10 years pun baru dapat citizenship.
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post Oct 13 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Feb 2 2013, 03:05 AM)
MyKad is malaysian citizenship identity card, unless you are applying citizenship here and met the department requirement to acquire one any external source you encounter is most likely illegal or fake.

Check with the malaysian department. I heard of 2nd home program but I never heard of a instant MyKad unless the rumor of corruption are true.
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The BLUE MyKad is only issued to Malaysian Citizens and therefore you could say that it is proof of citizenship. However there are also a number of other colours in use which do not indicate citizenship. The RED MyKad is for those who hold Entry Permits. An Entry Permit holder has permanent residence. Normally it is issued after 5 years legal residence but certain visas do not qualify e.g. employment visas. The GREEN MyKad is issued to stateless persons who can produce a Malaysian birth certificate (Malaysia is one of the few countries in the world which does not recognize country of birth as proof of citizenship). The SILVER MyKad (discontinued) was issued to MM2H holders. Given that the business community ask for production of a MyKad for almost everything, it is a tremendous disadvantage not to have one of these if you are a resident. Ignorance of the law and prejudice against foreigners also results in denial of service in some cases, and the lack of any functioning consumer council or civil rights body in Malaysia ensures that these petty injustices continue. In fact under the Malaysian Constitution EVERYONE is equal under the Law (Sharia Law Excepted). Only matters concerning immigration require differentiation e.g. illegal residents are protected under the Constitution from unlawful acts committed against them, but they are also liable to removal. Of course there are also two classes of citizens - bumi and non-bumi, but that is a whole different thread.

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post Oct 14 2013, 02:27 AM

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some of my in laws and their children has been in this land for centuries and they still 'don't qualify' for the blue MyKad.
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post Oct 15 2013, 05:46 PM

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why choose malaysia to live in. you know that we experience summer forever here right?
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post Oct 15 2013, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Feb 2 2013, 05:01 PM)
You might be in for a bit of a wait unfortunately.

Leaving aside the sordid tales coming out from the Royal Commission of Inquiry into illegals in Sabah, the only way a non-M'sian citizen can (legally) get something like a M'sian Identification Card is via the Malaysia My Second Home (MM2H) program, which provided MM2H ID cards which (in theory) should give MM2H visa holders most rights normally the reserve of M'sian citizens, including but not limited to being cleared at the immigration counter for M'sian citizens, and local rates for hotels.

However, in July 2010 the issuance of MM2H ID cards was " temporarily suspended" (http://www.mm2h.gov.my/announcement.php), and has been pretty much that way since.

You could go over to the nearest NRD office and see if you qualify for the MyPR card.
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Expats on a work permit were previously handed a brownish colour "IC" card, probably similar to the MM2H ID card. It was called a gold card if I remember correctly. When you call immigration and finally get through to the right person they will tell you that the machine that makes them is broken, it has been for years apparently.

It doesn't always give discounts/local rates though. Many of the staff at attractions will probably never have seen one. My experience is that showing anything that shows proof of working or living in Malaysia (such as a bank card from a Malaysian bank, Malaysian driving license) may get you a discount sometimes. It's hit and miss really.
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post Oct 16 2013, 01:51 AM

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The problem with Malaysian civil servants is that they are poorly paid and badly trained. If you are nice to them they might just help you, but chances are they don't actually know the answer to your problem and don't know how to find out. If you are rude to them they will actually go out of their way to give false information. There's no attitude of service to the public. Its more like a job for life and the public are an inconvenience.
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post Oct 16 2013, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(Gastinel @ Oct 13 2013, 04:36 PM)
The BLUE MyKad is only issued to Malaysian Citizens and therefore you could say that it is proof of citizenship. However there are also a number of other colours in use which do not indicate citizenship. The RED MyKad is for those who hold Entry Permits. An Entry Permit holder has permanent residence. Normally it is issued after 5 years legal residence but certain visas do not qualify e.g. employment visas. The GREEN MyKad is issued to stateless persons who can produce a Malaysian birth certificate (Malaysia is one of the few countries in the world which does not recognize country of birth as proof of citizenship). The SILVER MyKad (discontinued) was issued to MM2H holders. Given that the business community ask for production of a MyKad for almost everything, it is a tremendous disadvantage not to have one of these if you are a resident. Ignorance of the law and prejudice against foreigners also results in denial of service in some cases, and the lack of any functioning consumer council or civil rights body in Malaysia ensures that these petty injustices continue. In fact under the Malaysian Constitution EVERYONE is equal under the Law (Sharia Law Excepted). Only matters concerning immigration require differentiation e.g. illegal residents are protected under the Constitution from unlawful acts committed against them, but they are also liable to removal. Of course there are also two classes of citizens - bumi and non-bumi, but that is a whole different thread.
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Actually, the red color card is called MyPR, not a red MyKad. Green is MyKAS. But then many Malaysians probably also call all such cards MyKad, when they should say IC. MyKad is an IC, but an IC in Malaysia is not necessarily a MyKad.

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red123
post Dec 26 2018, 09:03 PM

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Technically there are 5-6 types of IC in Malaysia and Mykad is just one of them or considered the most common most complete prove of citizenship. haha.

As for British family, they won't be eligible to apply for a Mykad unless one of the parent to the child is a Mykad holder. Let's say, your kid wants to apply and your wife is a Mykad holder then your kid might be eligible for Mykad if you and your wife is registered here as marriage couple.

Other than that you have to stay here for at least 5 years to get MyPR and after obtaining MyPR another 5-10 years to eligible for Mykad.

To not wait for so long and get instant resident status. You can apply for MM2H kad.
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post Dec 27 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(red123 @ Dec 26 2018, 09:03 PM)
Technically there are 5-6 types of IC in Malaysia and Mykad is just one of them or considered the most common most complete prove of citizenship. haha.

As for British family, they won't be eligible to apply for a Mykad unless one of the parent to the child is a Mykad holder. Let's say, your kid wants to apply and your wife is a Mykad holder then your kid might be eligible for Mykad if you and your wife is registered here as marriage couple.

Other than that you have to stay here for at least 5 years to get MyPR and after obtaining MyPR another 5-10 years to eligible for Mykad.

To not wait for so long and get instant resident status. You can apply for MM2H kad.
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Correction: 5 years to be eligible to APPLY for PR

Another 2-10 years to get PR (varies on your local immigration "mood"

Then another 10 years to infinite (again varies with your local immigration "mood") to get citizenship

There have been several cases getting their citizenship on death bed, those are the "lucky" ones
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post Dec 27 2018, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(joe_star @ Dec 27 2018, 02:31 PM)
Correction: 5 years to be eligible to APPLY for PR

Another 2-10 years to get PR (varies on your local immigration "mood"

Then another 10 years to infinite (again varies with your local immigration "mood") to get citizenship

There have been several cases getting their citizenship on death bed, those are the "lucky" ones
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Maybe I am abit ignorant but can I know what is the advantage of having a PR or citizenship in malaysia? Why is it so important?
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post Dec 27 2018, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(red123 @ Dec 27 2018, 05:14 PM)
Maybe I am abit ignorant but can I know what is the advantage of having a PR or citizenship in malaysia? Why is it so important?
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a) to stay here, leave & enter whenever you want
b) to be eligible for epf
c) to vote
d) to get free medical at govt hospital
e) to get local rates for education
f) to get a JOB

List just getting started. I have foreign spouse so I learned the hard way how this works. These things which seem trivial to you can mean everything to someone with out either of those cards

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