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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V3 thread ★★~, Gathering coming soon...CNY

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post Feb 5 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Feb 5 2013, 03:40 PM)
OMG, THEN I SHOULD BE JOINING ELITE COLI...Dayummmm
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You'll be trashed pretty badly too, since the people there has those Almighty & Mighty cards which are stronger than the ordinary cards.
There are Skill +2, Skill +3 & Skill +4 stones. To get Skill +4, you gotta be A rank at least.

QUOTE(oRoXoRo @ Feb 5 2013, 03:42 PM)
The legend says that nobody can ever get back their account once restricted*
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There are people who managed to get back their accounts. And some even get it back automatically without writing anything to SE.

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post Feb 5 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 5 2013, 03:44 PM)
Not this week though
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Yea, I just heard about this week is the no colour border week lol.
BTW, just write to SE & make them give you a solid reason to ban your account. Not just the usual "Err, I'm not sure, the bot just banned you somehow" kinda reason.
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post Feb 5 2013, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 5 2013, 05:17 PM)
My chao nuada for cool nuada plus int aps. All are heavily stoned including mine. Sounds decent?
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It's quite fair la, I'm still using an Int Apsara too. But might chance her soon.....I'm trying not to have any guardian from Berneside Plains anymore.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 5 2013, 05:38 PM)
btw ~ bro night , after all sub-mission done , go to kostelle fight guston is the best place to lvl d right ? cox high GP ?

wonder kostelle is for what , now only i realize i 1st time go there , but no sub mission all ..
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Kostelle used to have a sub-mission just like the Crimson Keep. There's a dungeon called Dagon's Temple there, so after the given time, they took away the sub-mission there.
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post Feb 5 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 5 2013, 06:36 PM)
Night: you still need a Baha? I hv a brave one that I don't know what to do with him. Can't find another brave or even a cool type at reasonable price
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I am looking, but I rather not trade with you la since I'm so stingy offering at most 15 Stat Stones iii only >_<

QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 5 2013, 06:38 PM)
Yea, I kinda agree about the list. Or perhaps a sort of feedback to traders we met in gcf.
So far, most guys I traded with has been very friendly and nice. smile.gif
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We'll do the list in our other forum so that everyone else can contribute.

BTW there's an Ace Raijin getting offers more than 200 stat stones iii lol. Two fellas fighting so hard for it.

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post Feb 5 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 5 2013, 08:49 PM)
me also no mood
in addition to being sick today
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Get well soon, gotta get better so can distribute ang pow.

QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 5 2013, 09:09 PM)
Just got myself an ipad2 16g wifi. smile.gif
Lock and load!

Time to play with FallenOut in novice
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Dang, you people getting iPads & all like buying doughnuts only.
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post Feb 5 2013, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 5 2013, 09:25 PM)
you two can dominate novice coli ;p
doughnuts oso expensive wei =/ J-co ones super ex.

anyways... should I continue hunting in forums for golem/nara? or just let it go? tongue.gif

I can pretty much reborn power vamp heca ram and angel. though the later two i won't do so. finding cheap caim soon. Should I sell my fast vamp rather than just feeding it for reborn? ;p was wondering so cos at most i'll be getting earning of 1 iii in the end taking into account i need to feed another bad vamp at 2-3iii.
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Well you can continue hunting, that's how the game works here; trade >_<
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 5 2013, 10:01 PM)
Unbelievable.
I suppose its a 2nd hand iPad 2, mbr?
That was so bloody quick of you.

Have my respect! Despite your cool attitude, deep inside, you're the same hardcore geek addict like the rest of us. laugh.gif
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I was gonna bid on a FSeMP Cool Nuada when I saw a familiar name there lol.

I value "FSeMP" at 20 stat stones iii. So you're basically buying a Nuada for 30 Stat Stones iii. It seems alright, I got stones to lend you to ensure you win too, was gonna write this there & then I realised better not so that the TS don't get his friend to jack up the price.

I sold my clean Brave one for 75 stat stones iii.
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 5 2013, 10:18 PM)
Lol, yeah. I figured since no one started the bid, I'd get the ball rolling. I'm aiming a bit higher for Nuada actually, wouldn't hold my breath if my bid ends up as the highest. Saw your bid for Fast Ettin. Hard to beat those rich traders. Its like S+ rank for tradings.
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I was trying to ninja the Ettin lol, but then I think again.....that's really overpriced too. Good thing I set a limit, or else kiasu-ism kicks in & end up wasting stones. Somehow, I feel that stat stones iii isn't that valuable lately. Hardly one is willing to trade their 5* for stat stones iii anymore. Everyone wants a rebirth feeder for their deck. I doubt it's the Crimson Keep event, since it wasn't this bad during Dagon's Temple. I think duped stones are really bad now, imagine that fella......100 for Ettin & nearly 200 for Ace Raijin. That's madness wehh.....At first I was thinking he couldn't possible have that much, so I can get the Ettin without much fight, damn I was wrong LOL.

QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 5 2013, 10:22 PM)
Indeed. Let the hunt resume!
Second hand? No way. Last unit in Switch. They do not have the ipad mini 16gb wifi, only the one with wifi+3g (which costs RM1399) and the other one is ipad 4 16GB wifi at RM1499.

which got me thinking...
1. I can order from apple store, but being festive season, it will be a week before I can get it.
2. I do not need the 3G most of the time, and my iphone 4s would cover that (or personal hotspot might do just as well)
3. Playing most of the time, not movies, not photos either...
4. I got lots of 30-pin connectors and stuff at home. Do I want lightning?

Thus the ipad 2 wifi became my choice.

Setting up takes time. Will update smile.gif
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Woah, I can't imagine myself buying an iPad lol. I really don't know what to do with it besides playing games.
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 5 2013, 10:43 PM)
I use it as presentation tool, textbook references, journals, emails... and FB on ipad is just like PC's and nicer in my opinion.

Setting up GC now. Will buy some coins there this time smile.gif
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Hmmm, doctors really like doing that hmm? My doctor friend does that too.
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post Feb 5 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 5 2013, 10:52 PM)
bro / sifu ~

fast ettin is good ?

trying to bid a fast ettin with fast shiva + toppers ~ LOL

just trying it for fun smile.gif

but i like rubi , fast rubi good ?
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Were you the one bidding Damakhat's Fast Ettin?
Shiva to me, is slightly stronger than Ettin. You're supposed to get toppers actually >_<
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 5 2013, 11:05 PM)

just went to see doctor lolz

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Why? We got so many doctors here.....bagus punya some more.
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(SephirothLee @ Feb 5 2013, 11:08 PM)
oo serious?
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Yea, just the previous page I've revealed one doctor already.
Another one MIA for a while de busy attending to patients.
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM)
get some medi lolz
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You know, what I really love to do is I get advice from a doctor & then buy my own medicine from the pharmacy. That's why I like talking to doctors sometime lol.

QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 5 2013, 11:11 PM)
Funny - good types? Sell for (iii) ?
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What? Who? Got good type for sale? CNY Sale??

QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 5 2013, 11:12 PM)
Seriously. I posted my blood test results in the previous thread and suddenly it became a medical discussions. Its really cool seeing a lot of medical practitioners in the fray. I still couldn't figure out NightHeart profession yet though. He's a mystery to me. hmm.gif
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It's not cool! It's ACE!! Lol anyway, it's definitely beyond cool to have good doctors around us. I can faint safely that way LOL.
As for my profession, very hard to guess no matter how to stalk me haha.
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 5 2013, 11:19 PM)
Umm, lemme check. Its still in my inbox. Too scared to accept, too greedy to return. tongue.gif
Its a Brave Atlas, a Chaotic Shiva and a Chaotic S. Bird. All at level 1.

There are some oddities compared to guardiancrossx data.

Brave Atlas has Cross Slash (strong phy+2) but in guardiancrossx its heavy blow (strong phy+2)
Chaotic S. Bird has Cross Slash (strong phy+2) but in guardiancrossx its heavy blow (strong phy+2)

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Yup, even here says it's Heavy Blow; http://guardiancross.wikidot.com/guardian:atlas
Most probably it's a hacked card, you know the methods.
Who gave it to you? Let it rot in your inbox then.
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 5 2013, 11:29 PM)
But did u sign up for giveaways lately?
Is the send same as the 1 u sign for?

Bye I really can't understand. Why those jokers enjoy sending hacked cards to others?
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They wanna test their hacking skills to see how to pass SE's radar I guess.

QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 5 2013, 11:31 PM)
I might swap my chao with cool nuada and power raijin. Anyone interested in that raijin? If nobody wants it I might not accept it.
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I want the Raijin, wanna rebirth my Int one since everyone is overvaluing their Int Raijin, it's close to impossible to get one.
But I also don't want you to get that cause Chaotic Nuada is so much better than a Cool one. The extra HP is helpful & the reduced Wis isn't spoiling your Nuada.
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post Feb 5 2013, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 5 2013, 11:48 PM)
bro night , can explain abit why chaotic better than brave ?

both no damage nuada main stats ..

lower mp but still able to cast +4 twice and buff for brave .. non lowered wis better def againt ele dmg and high def for phy dmg ..

chaotic increase max hp , doesn't harm nuada main stats ..

hmmmmmm
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This will involves some maths here,

This is the damage formula; Damage = (Atk or Wis) * ( 1 + Skill Level + Buff ) * Element Effects - (Def or Wis)/2

Element effect;
Critical - 115% or 1.15
Block - 85% or 0.85

As you can see, Def & Wis is halfed is reducing the damage. So that means for every 1 damage, you need 2 Def or Wis to nullify it. Whereas for HP, you need 1 HP to nullify 1 damage. So then, if you compare HP vs Def.....every 1 HP = 0.5 Def, isn't it? That makes chaotic twice as good as brave in terms of tanking. A chaotic is like a brave with +20% def.
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post Feb 6 2013, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 6 2013, 12:07 AM)
wow that's clear and understandable maths ! now i know why ppl rate chaotic nuada , behemoth so highly ...

thanks for the knowledge again ..

another question .. is chaotic behemoth good ? with just 2.6k agi , do he even have a chance to move ?

place a fast guardian infront of him , why placing a fast guardian infront of him will ensure he got a chance to move ?

as toppers : cool atlas better or fast s.bird better ? fast s.bird rebirth also cant cast +4 twice right ? guess is a bad idea ~ ?
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To explain why placing fast in front of a slow guardian gives the slow one a better chance of attacking, you need to understand the ATB system first; http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-AGI-Formula-Explained

You need to fill up the "movement bar" which consist of 10,000 points, whoever fills up the bar first get to attack first. This is explains why sometimes you get to attack 2 times in a row. It's because your AGI is so much higher than the enemy AGI. So by having a fast guardian in front to fill up (hopefully most) of the "movement bar", then you slow guardian can easily complete the movement bar before the enemy does & attack first.

This also explains why AGI buff & debuff takes effect from the 2nd round onward, cause the 1st round has been calculated before the guardian even start buffing.

As far as i heard, only Brave & Heroic Stymp Bird can't double cast. That's why Stymp Bird is getting popular now.
I'll have 4 Stymp Bird soon - 2 Sexy fully stoned one, 1 Fast & 1 Int one. Anyone wants Sexy Stymp Bird? LOL.
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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 6 2013, 12:21 AM)
okay i'll go study the ATB system , thanks for the link bro

brave and heroic can double cast +4 , how bout fast / sonic ? able ?

fast shiva clean = chaotic behe FSeMP + cool atlas + fast s.bird ok ?
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It's quite fair la, seeing that Atlas & Stymp Bird is wanted as well for rebirth. Atlas will be the feeder though, so you can't expect much out of it.
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 6 2013, 12:27 AM)
Night - wanna swap? I got chaotic raijin for ur s.birds
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I still owe you a Brave Dominion lol. I wanna settle that debt first, CNY coming....gotta settle any debt before CNY >_<
Is your Raijin fully stoned as well? If not, can we settle with my Sexy Stymp Bird (fully stoned except MP & coliseum free)?
Put it behind a very fast guardian & it can attack twice in a row sometimes.
I'm gonna eat up that Raijin anyway, so if you got a sexy or chaotic one also can.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 6 2013, 12:32 AM)
GCF showing Fast s.bird mp 2730

Def -20% = 150mp
agi+20% = 200mp
phy+4 = 1200mp x2 = 2400

mp2750 .. means cant phy+4 twice ?

zzzzzz , tot wanna keep 2 s.bird to rebirth it to sonic .. no 2x phy+4 no use lo

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That's before reborn, after reborn it should be able to.
After reborn it's recommended skill is;

Def -20% = 150mp
Quick Strike = 300mp
Phy +4 = 2400 (1200mp x2)

Total of 2850 MP needed, now the max for non reborn fast Stymp Bird is 2730.....it should get extra 120 MP from the extra 10 levels.

Either that or just reborn a Sexy Stymp Bird if you're worried, 108% confirm can double attack with quick strike. That's why Stymp Bird is being hunted down like mad now along with Chariot. But Chariot, only the reborn Ace, Virgin & Sexy can double cast I think cause even non reborn Ace can't double cast. That's why I never like Chariot.

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post Feb 6 2013, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 6 2013, 12:50 AM)
My raijin it's clean. So what's your proposal?
No offer for the INT shiva?
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Hmm, your clean Raijin & Brave Dominion for my FSeMP Stymp Bird & 10 Stat stones iii of your choice? Sorry ar, very hard for me to trade with you people here cause I tend to cut people's throat lol.

I'm also trying to get a Brave Dominion or a different type + stat stones iii for you now. That will be the easiest solution lol.

I created a selling thread, as usual I got junk offers only.....can anyone of you share with me at least 1 experience whereby you created a selling thread (not auction) & you actually managed to get a good offer from it?

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 6 2013, 12:54 AM)
i see i see  , thanks for the maths lesson again ~

i'll go for this trade then , it'll strengthen my deck for sure with FSeMP behe + fast s.bird

bro u have 2x sexy , 1xfast , 1xint .. why u dont rebirth is to virgin ?

sorry if this has been discuss before ..

fast + fast = sonic +15 agi - 15 def

ace + any = all stats +10

cool + any = cool +0

above i basically understand , but for below :

fast + chao = fast +10 agi , -10def ? correct ? will have increase lvl cap too to lvl70 ?

btw ~ during battle , how do we know their guardian type is rebirth type or non rebirth type ?
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Well, it seems like we can reborn two different types as long as it's the same guardian. The main guardian will maintain its type & reborn to level 1, then can level up to 70 to learn the new skill. I'm actually hoping & preparing for this at the moment. That's why I intend to get a Fast Stymp & reborn it with my Int Stymp. Sexy Stymp is a good type, rather not waste it by turning it into Virgin.

Also, you'll never know what type is enemy guardian unless you can calculate really fast by multiplying the amount of stat being buff by 5 (since most buffs are 20%). Then guess its type based on that amount, but stoning really can spoil your guessing accuracy la.

QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 6 2013, 01:00 AM)
he likes maths
for me
if any of my id is banned again
I would hav the urge to get a jailbroken iphone
and get the hackin software
n then I will everyday send some hack cards to unsuspecting ppl
it will b 1 hell of a burden on their email
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Don't la spoil innocent players, learn DDoS & do a DDoS attack on SE's servers...once the server jammed, no GC until they fix their server LOL.

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