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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V3 thread ★★~, Gathering coming soon...CNY

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post Feb 15 2013, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 15 2013, 12:14 AM)
Why another Gilga?
If 0 MP, both LS and SD won't matter smile.gif

Valentine Cup update:
Novice: 2768 points, rank 33 (S+), 3 coli tix in hand, saving them for Saturday
Elite: 1177 points, rank 130 (S), 1 tix in hand, but facing a wall around rank 100, with their avg attack of 3300-3800
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Bought it for my friend.

Well I was explaining the mechanics of both skills. Technically, Self-Destruct can activate even with 0 MP but it will do 0 damage lol. You'll still see the animation but no damage lol.
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post Feb 15 2013, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 15 2013, 12:46 AM)
Is it advisable to reborn bridgit into sonic? Ace's out of reach and i do have a fast bridgit.
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I agree with funnyTONE. Only Ace 4* is worth keeping.

QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 15 2013, 12:52 AM)
Wow,a fresh fast Gilga c/0 40 iii. Then my FSeMP bought for 50 iii would be a bargain I suppose?
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I'd say that fresh one is overpriced.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 15 2013, 12:54 AM)
How come you guys can get so many iii ? sad.gif

Brave frost nix can fetch now many iii?

Trade my Ace domi for Morri chao and brave frost nix both clean is it good deal ?
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Traded de better don't ask, we make no rooms for regrets!! Lol. But I like the Morrighan although as usual I prefer fast, wanna trade with my heavily stoned wise Raijin? /GG.

QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 15 2013, 12:59 AM)
It fluctuates so much - i've seen a fast one sold at 30 iii while another selling asking 75iii min for fast clean.
Yes 50 iii for fsemp is definately a good fine
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That's the reason why I always tell newbies there is no such thing as price tags for 5* guardians. It all depends on the buyer & seller.
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post Feb 15 2013, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 15 2013, 02:15 AM)
Are we making them insecure by commenting on their trades? It's time for them to figure it out for themselves smile.gif
Learning the hard way if it's a bad trade...

Novice coli: 3620 points, rank 15 (S+).
Should be enough for this week to guarantee a card.
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Haha, can comment a bit la. Eventually they'll get the hang of things.
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post Feb 15 2013, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 15 2013, 02:26 AM)
You want the brave frost nix or morrighan ? Sigh I didn't get the deal .. The guy went for ace Nuada offer I guess .. Sigh
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Morrighan cause HF Phoenix is a weaker version of Sphinx Empress.
Only Fast type HF Phoenix can be considered to have cause even though it supposed to be an elemental attacker, int is bad cause it'll further reduce it's already low atk. So that makes int HF Phoenix QS really bad.
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post Feb 15 2013, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 15 2013, 12:32 AM)
Wow nego half day for offers for my sexy shiva and still no conclusion.. But this is kinda fun! Lol.
Especially when someone's telling me a reborn levi's gonna kick my shiva's ass tongue.gif
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Someone is looking for a bad type Shiva; http://guardiancross-forum.com/Thread-Int-...-shiva-Agni-dom

The catch is must have bad type dominion or Agni. For a FSeMP Int Shiva, I'd say it's worth it lol.
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post Feb 15 2013, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 15 2013, 03:06 AM)
sorry bro the deal didn't went through ~  sad.gif  so i don't the morri ..

best morri  : fast> brave/chao > power>sexy/int ?

best frost nix : fast>brave>power>chao/sexy/int ?

best thor : >chao/brave>fast>power>sexy/int ?

this this correct ?
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Nah don't worry about it, plenty of chance to get another Morrighan.

Anyway, personally I'd agree on the Morrighan types. But I'm not sure about others.

You see, the newer guardians are getting more complicating....which is good in my opinion. Makes the game less boring & requires more thinking. Probably because I like to think lol. The newer guardians are no longer "fixed". Fixed as in only 1 build or 1 way. Such as "Fast is the best & no doubts about it!!" or "it must learn Self-Destruct, +20% wis & Death +4!!" or "the only way is that, this & that!!".

For instance, no here can agree on the best skills for Crocell, or the best type for HF Phoenix or whether should delete Last Stand for Gilgamesh (yes some experts deleted LS on Gilga) or Serenade Banshee skill sets. It's more on personal opinions now days.

For me, how I analyze & judge is simple. First I look at their overall stats, mainly just wis or atk to determine whether they're an elemental or a physical attacker. Then I look at their skills, whether it complements their stats or not. Finally I put my personal taste into consideration which are;

1) "Speed is #1 while Damage is #2"
2) "There's no tanking in GC"
3) "Luck dependent skill sucks"

HF Phoenix is an elemental attacker with QS. So wis & atk will be good on it. Int increases wis but reduces atk, thus spoiling the QS. Powerful reduces agi but that's fine with me since HF has super high agi naturally. So even powerful type is still faster than most guardians. So I rank HF Phoenix fast>powerful>int>brave>sexy>chaotic.

As for Thor, he's simpler than the rest - Physical attacker with Last Stand, just like Nuada. I don't believe in tanking & I prefer speed so Fast>Powerful>chaotic>brave>sexy>int.

This is all personal opinion already since some people still believes in tanking, so they'll say chaotic is the best. Some people prefer damage so they'll say powerful is the best (yes there are experts who says Powerful Nuada & Thor is the best). And some people just think sexy is bad for everything.

Being able to make your own judgement is important because it helps to value a guardian when trading too. This is what MBR is trying to point out. Believe in your own decisions, we're here to discuss & help you build your taste & opinions & beliefs so that one day you'll be able to make your own decision & share your own opinions too. We don't just buta-buta spoon feed all the time. You'll become an expert with your own opinions one day, so come back here & guide the newbies. This is the cycle in a community.

So if you believe Powerful Nuada is the best, you'll definitely expect higher from him. Or if you believes Self-Destruct on Crocell is good, you'll think Crocell with no SD is broken & values her very low. That's why sometimes to you, people willing to trade their "best" type for your "lousy" type. Because to them, they're trading their lousy for your good lol.

This post has been edited by NightHeart: Feb 15 2013, 04:22 AM
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post Feb 15 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 15 2013, 09:03 AM)
Morning guys~

Its raining here....sure is hard to wake up to a cold Friday morning like dis.
Looking forward to the gathering tomorrow. I'm taking the evening bus to KL today with my kids. You KL people better not ffk me. laugh.gif
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PM me your number so that your ticket tomorrow isn't wasted.

QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 15 2013, 09:36 AM)
Okie. new updates..

the guy replied me an inform that once he get the illicit messges, he feed the S.Banshee to a 3* card. But no use.
10 mins later, he got banned..

So feeding on the illicit card it's not 100% safe from ban.
Trade 4 times will trigger Illicit? then i think i need to trade 1 more time to clear my worries n doubt.

Trde to my Ign 1 : 1st time
My Ign1 to Ign2 : 2nd time
Ign 2 to Ign 3 : 3rd time.
Ign 3 to Ign 4 : to be done
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Yes eating up illicit card isn't 100% safe but do as what SE has recommended.
Also there's no 100% sure way of detecting illicit cards, today the system may be able to detect after 4 trades, so the hackers will wise up & improve their hacks to 6 trades & you all will think you're safe after 4 trades. So the best bet is still to stay away from the Ace. Although there are best types illicit cards, but at least it's lesser than Ace.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 15 2013, 10:08 AM)
he is still there ~ no worry .. coming out soon .. gilga waiting for you  smile.gif
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Someone reported that their giatn shadow disappeared for a long time too but turned out to be Bugbear lol. Troll from SE.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 15 2013, 10:18 AM)
when i just started trading , i always aim for a good good deal , no ace no trade , api very kuat .. after the initial heat , past few week i see you and night not touching aces , and saying 70% of the aces out there are duped .. i already long don't dare to touch aces , instead playing safe , look for high rep trader , look for best decent type etc ... hence u see i'm actually trading down ... and not that active in trading.
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It's simple to see why more than 70% of the aces are duped. Just look at GC Forum, count how many 5* ace are for trade & how many 4* ace are for trade. Don't you think there should be more, much more 4* ace for trade?

Also, high reputation means little cause the guy may be lucky that the card he hold didn't become illicit in his hands.

QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 15 2013, 10:47 AM)
Bro Mbr, i think the 3* tourney isn't happening..

So i return your cards after this week coli?
Or continue safe keeping it until u need it back?

Currently i enroll in tourney alrd those deck..
Or if you want i can return them now also..

Just let me know the next course of action.
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I thought I saw tmkhaled claimed that it'll happen today?
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post Feb 15 2013, 05:01 PM

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2500 posts de, funnyTONE.....where are you??
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post Feb 15 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ Feb 15 2013, 05:07 PM)
Fast Barb is extinct! Fast Sphinx still can be hunted.
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That's true, but I won't overpay her just for being extinct.

Performance wise, I'd be more than happy to replace her with Ace Reborn or Sonic Stymp Bird. It's stats is just slightly lower than Barbariccia. And it comes at half her non reborn price.

Being extinct isn't a big deal, we have 1 generation of guardian ahead of thr FFIV guardian series already which is the new snowfield guardians. Soon the new desert (Kari & friends) will come, making the FFIV another generation older.

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