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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V3 thread ★★~, Gathering coming soon...CNY

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post Feb 1 2013, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 1 2013, 01:44 AM)
Now at 45,almost lost. Got bad feeling it'll end before 50  sweat.gif
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Wait until it's nearly 2 hours, let your ranks drop as low as possible so that they'll match you with lower ranking people.

Omg Negisf's fast Shiva is going for 100 stat stones iii *fainted*

Can easily buy another one at a lower price.

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post Feb 1 2013, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Feb 1 2013, 06:31 AM)
even NightHeart offered to help me sell my stuff. laugh.gif
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I was just annoyed that you wasted a golden chance lol.
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post Feb 1 2013, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 1 2013, 02:40 PM)
se still didnt reply back my email
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hello
its me again

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Lol, straight away they close email haha.

QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 1 2013, 03:13 PM)
There is several Q that i wanna ask

1) What happen if in a battle, during last guardian on both party, then A's Guardian kill B, B's guardian self destruct killing A, what will be the outcome ar? Draw ar? I never encounter that b4.

2) If u rebirth both 50% FS 5*, will it be reborn as a 5* 100% FS
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The self-destructor will lose. Since the team practically lose first before making the other team lose.

The feeder's stone will be wasted. So never stone your feeders.
As for skill stones, both main & feeder guardian will be gone after rebirth to lvl 1. You don't expect a level 1 guardian to have 2 Skill +4 right? Lol.
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post Feb 1 2013, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(FallenOut @ Feb 1 2013, 05:21 PM)
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LOL, not so early....you should be giving btw.
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post Feb 2 2013, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 1 2013, 08:54 PM)
Hey. I read in the dev report.
There stated that guardians retains all magic stone bonuses of the two source guardians. So it means even the feeders stoned stats will be added to the main guardian stats too
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That's good news, I got a Fully Stoned Sexy Stymp Bird. I don't intend to keep the Sexy when reborn, looking for a fast stymp bird now.....heard it can finally double cast skill +4.
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post Feb 2 2013, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 2 2013, 12:27 AM)
Bro niteheart, is it advisable to lvl up brave stym bird?
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Personally, I never like any guardian that can't cast their Skill +4 twice.
Only Ace & Sexy lvl 60 Stymp Bird can double cast, that's why I got a Sexy one. But I heard, lvl 70 Stymp Bird of other types can double cast already except Brave of course (-15% MP).
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post Feb 2 2013, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 2 2013, 12:48 AM)
Haha! Means with reborn, my brave type became worse type... Lol.
Better sell it off then. Anyone knows the best price i can fetch for this?
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Well I bought an Int one for 15 Stat Stones iii, you can try 20 & see.
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post Feb 2 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 2 2013, 11:23 AM)
Ok i guess not possible for me to trade the sexy bird..
Heroic bird? Sounds cool. Would it be very much disadvange to lose agi buff? Would it be devaluated.
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Agi buff is the weakest buff due to the fact that it takes effect on the 2nd round onwards. But yes it'll reduce it's value a bit for those who purposely wanna highlight it. But for some people who don't mind, you can trade it fairly.
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post Feb 2 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 2 2013, 11:49 AM)
I thougt Agi de-buff is the 1 that takes effect on the 2nd round?
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Both agi buff & debuff takes effect from the 2nd round onwards. Guardian Cross adapted the Active Time Battle system from their Final Fantasy series to determine who attack first. On the 1st round, who gets to attack first has been calculated before the buff takes place.

And when attack take place only they'll calculate the damage, this happens after buffs. So that's why Wis, Atk, Def buffs works during the 1st round.
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 2 2013, 12:20 PM)
So in another, example,

Let's say the S.Bird has the agi buff, but opponent still moves faster than her in first round, and she can't survive the OHKO.. so the agi buff alrd also useless lo..?

Only agi-debuff will still got abit use, as it might makes the 2nd slow guardian moves before the opponent guardian
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Yea, useless in your scenario. Agi buff on a super fast guardian like Stymp Bird can slow down the next enemy guardian A LITTLE BIT only. But I don't know how to explain this part because it's kinda complicating - FF ATB system. You can check out on that. Even for me, I roughly understand only haha.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 2 2013, 12:46 PM)
another question for phoenix ~

her ori skill is :
revive (must have)
def+20% (replace to ele+4) or keep the def ?
fire+3 (replace to ele+4)

question is why ppl want 2 ele+4 skill ie fire+4 , lightning+4 ?

cox with the same amount of MP , fire+4 twice also deal same damage right ? then why dont take the def+20 ?
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I don't believe in def or tanking at all at the moment.

2 elements means more chance to critical hit enemy. If you got Fire & Poison, more enemy will be weak to you.
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post Feb 2 2013, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 2 2013, 01:05 PM)
another question , for serenade banshee :

death+3 (keep this or replace with other ele+4 i.e. poison+4 ?)
death+4
wis+20

if the AI keep use poison+4 , then death is wasted lo ? death is the most important and best skill for banshee right ?
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If you want Serenade Banshee AI to be able to pick properly, you have to teach a Skill +4 to her before lvl 50 when she learns Death +4.

On default, if you don't do like what I mention above, by level 60 she will learn;

1) Wis +20%
2) Death +3
3) Death +4

So if you teach her a new skill when she's level 60, it'll be like this;

1) Wis +20%
2) Death +4
3) Skill +4

So based on the current AI of picking the 1st skill that can KO the enemy, the AI will ALWAYS pick Death +4. Making you waste the Skill +4 that you taught her. So if you teach her Skill +4 before lvl 50 when she learn Death +4, her skill order will be like this;

1) Wis +20%
2) Skill +4
3) Death +4

So, the AI will look at Skill +4 first.....if it can KO the enemy, it will use Skill +4. If can't then only it'll use Death +4. This is the way to level Serenade Banshee properly if you want to use her. But for me, very simple only.......delete all death skills & just teach her poison & fire or darkness. I don't like death skill cause at level 4, it's only 50% success rate.....which is too low for my likings.

QUOTE(hulksmash @ Feb 2 2013, 02:49 PM)
Is it because of Rebirth and the players need to farm more normal 5* --> so the extra SHT?
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No, this requires some economic sense to understand.

Firstly, Japan GC is much smaller than International GC. So the in-game economy is smaller for Japan GC. In order to keep the in-game economy lively, they have to increase the amount of 5* in their economy. So SE has decided to increase their drop rates & be generous with SHTs. If not, Japan GC players will hardly have any 5* to trade & the players will get demotivated to play since getting a 5* will be just a dream.

On the other hand, International GC is so big (plus the rampant duping), there are already so many 5* circulating around. Just a few hours only after being released you can see so many people trading the new guardians already. So to control the value of 5*, SE decided to decrease their drop rates & be stingy with SHTs. If not, International GC players will be using 5* like 3* guardians only & people will get bored easily once they get a full deck of ace 5* guardians. So basically they try not to let the game die so fast.

QUOTE(justanovice @ Feb 2 2013, 06:07 PM)
Posted my s-bird .. But i can also see people selling phoenix at 3-5 iii , desperate times!
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Careful, those are not normal Phoenix. I'm very sure those are Great Phoenix.

QUOTE(hulksmash @ Feb 2 2013, 06:36 PM)
anyone participating in Masters? What is minimum points to stay in A rank? estimate?

I have 1834 points and now touching A+ but not going to stay there for sure but want to know chances of staying in A. I have about 27 wins more to get the 50 win [100 pts]

Should i push for it or its a lost cause?

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27 wins seems still far away. Can you achieve it? That's at least 9 coliseum tickets with 3 wins from each ticket. If you believe it's possible, then go ahead. But if you think it's not....better save your tickets for next week.

QUOTE(cyapd @ Feb 2 2013, 09:09 PM)
My chao valk for other's any type of Baha seems like an ok deal?
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Honestly, Bahamut is better than Valkyrie in terms of performance. The only problem is Bahamut is "cheaper" than Valkyrie.

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Feb 2 2013, 09:47 PM)
guys, someone offer sexy ifrit + mp III for my fast levi. good deal bad deal? not sure if sexy ifrit is bad or decent type
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Both Ifrit & Leviathan is bad. At least fast type is considered good while sexy is bad. I won't trade if I were you.

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post Feb 3 2013, 12:09 AM

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I posted something in GC Forum & thought it may be useful for the newer players here that hasn't been lucky with 5* guardians;

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Mephist0 would probably trade 4 to 5 ace 4* for a 5*, but for me I'd probably offer at most 3 4* ace for your Fast Ifrit just because it's a 5*.

Because Ifrit isn't that much better than the top ace 4*. An Ace Vampire isn't that far behind from Fast Ifrit & sadly Ace Vampire can do more damage than Fast Ifrit. If you teach both of them Physical +4 (both of them are physical attackers anyway), Ace Vampire can KO 11 more 5* guardians than Fast Ifrit even though Ifrit is newer than Vampire. If you compare it with Narasimha, even better....Ace Narasimha can KO a whooping 47 more 5* guardians than Fast Ifrit.

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 12:16 AM)
Bro hbtiong. I got a good offer Liao.
50 (iii) for both our Levi. Pls send your Levi as gift to me. I think that's a good offer.
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I know gifting is more convenient, but try to use trade if possible.....Just to be safe. Can use a 1* as the other half to trade.

QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 3 2013, 12:18 AM)
@NightHeart: Great tip on serenade banshee skills
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I'll probably write up a guide on Serenade Banshee in our own forum later on. She's the most tricky one to level at the moment, I don't really care since I'd delete Death Skills if I ever gonna use her.

But for those who wanna actually use Death skill with her, must follow those steps.

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 12:19 AM)
Ok. Noted. Bro night, is this a good deal? 25 (iii) for a Levi?
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I got a Int Stymp Bird for 15 Stat Stones. Someone here traded his Brave Stymp for 20 Stat Stones. So for a Leviathan going for 25 stat stones, I'd say it's a good deal.
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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 12:33 AM)
Okie. Since both senior trade also comment it's good deal, then I gonna say yes to him.
Btw just for info its the same trader who bought mine Fast Shiva.

There's only 1 problem, I can't get bro hbtiong now. Pm him no reply. Message in game also no reply. ***.. Really need to contact him now but can't get hold of him
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Well, it's late at night already lol......for me, if you are planning to collaborate, it's better to send all the guardians to the person looking for the deals than to wait until the deal is confirmed & someone goes MIA lol.

That's why I always take people's guardian first, rather than wait for them until they're online to take from them.
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QUOTE(mbr @ Feb 3 2013, 12:47 AM)
Havent hunted SHT in plains for a loooong time.
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I'll never ever spend my SHTs on Plains ever any more.....even with Rebirth, the Plains guardians are still bad. The only place worth spending SHT is Snowfield & Desert. Plus the only worthwhile guardian from Volcano is Dominion & Ettin.
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QUOTE(hulksmash @ Feb 3 2013, 12:57 AM)
Hi NightHeart,
(Thanks for replying my earlier posts)

Not even Agni and Chariot? I always see these 2 in the trading threads in GCF. Please share your thoughts why these 2 are not worthwhile. Are they being overvalued?

P/S: Playing Ni No Kuni on PS3. You guys playing this RPG from Level 5? Artwork by Studio Ghibli
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I used to dislike Chariot because it can never cast its Skill +4 twice no matter what type. Now I heard after rebirth, Ace & Sexy can finally double cast. But it's high in demand now because it'll learn quick strike. Quick Strike & Last Stand are the 2 most valuable skills in the game now, because it's the best combo. Agni it's just like a slightly stronger Levi, Frank.....I never like any guardian without any buff, debuff or special skills. I generalize them as weak.

QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 12:59 AM)
Okie.. I've got no choice but to postponed the Levi trade for tomorrow. I PM him he said he's ok to trade tomorrow. Lets hope when tomorrow comes he's still interested with it.

As for my Hs brave frank, I've just trade him off for a brave dominion clean..
My first self caught 5*. He's gone now. Thought I could keep him for rebirth,..

Thanks Hulk. Anyway I have a sexy Garg. Interested? Trade with 5* other u have?
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Dominion is anytime better than Frank anyway, so don't worry. I traded my first self caught 5* within a few hours, so you've kept yours for a good long time now haha.

Eh BTW wanna trade your Dominion for stat stones iii? I got someone keen in it.

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 01:18 AM)
Bro night - not selling my brave domi. But don't mind to trade with bad type (with toppers of course)
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I have Cool Mictlan, it's half as strong as your Dominion but should have twice as much in trading value due to the fact that it's the new guardian from the desert. Friend advice, don't use it.....trade it off for a better guardian instead.

I have an interested trader, looking for specifically Brave Fujin & Brave Dominion only. I have the Fujin, so I need the dominion specifically Brave type too.

QUOTE(supermac @ Feb 3 2013, 01:21 AM)

Thanks bro !!

Now I know lol , if I get a banshee , I'll lvl her like how you said here , buthen is banshee a good keeper or trade is for empress better ? smile.gif
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Honestly right, I'd value Sphinx Empress over Serenade Banshee just because Sphinx has the one of most valuable skill now; Quick Strike.

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 01:26 AM)
I need the dominion cause I got an ace domi. So it's my rebirth partner.
What's his deal? If its damn good, I can consider sell this brave Dom n get a sexy dom
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Don't la eat up a brave Dominion, it's a decent type, definitely should get a worse type like sexy or powerful or cool.
He's offering 1 Shiva for Dominion & Fujin. Sadly I can't split the trade with you, unless we agree to trade the Shiva for Stat Stones iii lol.
I myself, dare not eat up my brave Fujin. Gonna get a sexy or chaotic or powerful one to sacrifice.

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QUOTE(negisf @ Feb 3 2013, 01:32 AM)
Yup. I alrd posted to trade the decent domi for a bad domi plus toppers.
If possible I also Dowan feed on decent type, wasted mar.

The Shiva it's what type? Good? U need the shiva r for your rebirth? If not sell lo..
Who knows we might land on another 100 (iii) for shiva..

So I send the domi to u first?
Hahahaha. Now we united for combine trading.
United we have More bargaining power.
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It's an Int Shiva, either best or second best type depending on your taste for Speed or Power. I personally like Speed =)

I'd like to keep my option open, rather than trading for Stat Stones iii only, I want to see if I can get multiple good types or 1 better type. That's why I rather trade something for your Dominion now, but only got my Mictlan to offer.

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