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post Sep 23 2016, 08:01 PM

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hi to all the sifus out here. im new in having a tortoise. i hope this thread is still alive. i bought my tortoise about a month ago. living in sabah. i wanted to ask u guys, how often should the tortoise be walking? do they walk all the time or sleep all the time? when i 1st bought my tortoise, it was walking around exploring. when i come back from school around 3 pm, i can see my tortoise standing or walking. but recently, mine sleeps when i come come back from school. i try to hand feed my tortoise, he seems to lose interest in eating. take a few bite then go find a nice corner and sleeps.

well i never check the temperature though, i put it out door wheres the plenty of sun and heat, i do soak him everyday. no substrate. its just outdoor cemented floor with huge cardboard box as fence.
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aside from that i do provide a small grazing area as well, but he doesn't seems to eat the grass there. and there's plenty of dirt. scare he will accidentally swallow the dirt.
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so back to my question. is it normal he behaves less active than previously? it does wake up and walk a bit whenever i pick him up. but then it goes back to its corner to sleep.
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post Sep 24 2016, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 23 2016, 08:34 PM)
give him some morning sunlight & fresh running water
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what means by fresh running water? means open tap water and let it flow? or simply soak? well, i edi give plenty of sunlight. will try for a few more days. it's growing lazier. it will eat if i put food in front of him. other wise wont even search for food. that's y im worried. are they suppose to walk most of the time or sit in one place for few hours? because as far as i remember, the day i bought him, he walk a lot in the morning for the first week or so. then now sit in one place being lazy. im worried if there's parasites or any diseases. im so so worried bcz its my 1st time having tortoise as pet and it cost me a lot just to buy him( they are not cheap). btw, i read online, they are suppose to eat weeds or grass. but mine wont eat any grass and i'm not sure what weeds in Malaysia are safe for him. tried hibiscus leaves, only bite a piece at most. mainly only eat opuntia pads and sawi. not sure if only those 2 will enough or not.
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 26 2016, 07:12 PM)
How big is your hatchling.? They do eat any grass, but in Malaysia all sorts are edible (cow, bermuda, pearl...etc). Opuntia pads are not meant for regular food. It is succulents, may be twice a week is sufficient. You may consider Mazuri too.

Back to your question, inactive can be many reasons. Most case hatchlings inactive are due to the shop/breeder you purchase from does not house them in proper way. Example mix other type together in one enclosure. This is a No-No. Potentially they can cross affect different parasites that each type tortoise carry and naturally each has different immune system to fight against. All you can do is, to ensure soak it twice a day with warm water for about 15-20mins.
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hi, thanks for the reply, waited for so long. this thread seems so inactive. but anyway thanks a lot for the advice. my tort is only 2.5 inch big so small. well, my tort doesn't seems to favour grass. he prefer weeds. at 1st im not sure what's the difference but then after doing research now i know. weeds are kind of like grass but leafy. but not all weeds are safe so avoided it just to be sure. umm.. my tort now has bubbly nose. poor guy. maybe i bought it from the wrong seller. not sure. he was housed with other species of tortoise before. so he could have got it from other tortoises. but the moment i bought him, he looks pretty healthy.

yeah, i did soak him in warm water. but sometimes i did skip soaking because im too bz (one of the reason i bought tortoise as pet). but not always. at most skipped once a week. usually soak once or twice per day. i had him injected by the vet but i don't think its gonna change anything. since they are general vet and not herp vet, they treats cats and dogs mainly. not sure what else i can do.

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post Oct 27 2016, 07:36 AM

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oh btw, guys, anyone of you never use substrate an still have a healthy active tortoise?

and anyone had ever tried buying tortoise from far away and had it delivered without much problem? im living in sabah and most cheap and seem-reliable tortoise are at peninsula.

any experience can share share?
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post Oct 27 2016, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 27 2016, 11:24 AM)
Day or noon time, best to let him wander around outside enclosure if you have. Preferably on a grassland with a shelter. I do know there are many reptiles veterinarian at peninsular side. It is normal hatchling does not possess habit of grass grazing till they grow to about size >4". Perhaps try prepare a meal, with chopped grass, leaves, vegetables. Hatchling will munch them like a buffet meal.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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I did tried mixing it up. He's very choosy and picky too. Pick all the vege and leave the grass behind. Cunning little guy. During day time, I let him wander outside de. But since he's sick, he rarely walks around. Spend most of his time sleeping except when soaking, or eating.
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post Oct 27 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 27 2016, 11:20 AM)
Given a choice, do not buy from oversea. Domestically is ok, some do provide guarantee upon you receive them. Try join the facebook group "Tortoises Group of Malaysia", you get the chance to meet M'sian breeder and seller.
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Wah impossible buy from oversea. I mean buying from peninsula Malaysia. Found a lot from mudah but a bit worry about postage and delivery. I saw from tortoise group of Malaysia, they sell very expensive oh. Over 1k. Will try contact @samperth
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post Oct 27 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 27 2016, 04:13 PM)
Hehe you pay what you get.  blush.gif
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Wah the one I bought wasn't cheap either. Rm 500 leh. From mudah, I can get better and cheaper. Even Malaysian tortoise oso got cheaper ones.
BTW what tortoise r u having?
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 27 2016, 05:26 PM)
Same as u. Leopard, already 5yrs.
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wah take pic see see. take pic of his habitat too. want to refer refer. hehehe

and suddenly some crazy idea crosses my mind. i tot about sending the tortoise to someone in kl then ask him or her to bring to vet in kl then treat until completely healed then send my tortoise back. hahaha. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 28 2016, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(usermode @ Oct 28 2016, 01:07 PM)
hello fellow terrapin/turtle owner biggrin.gif

i'm quite new in the hobby so i might come in from time to time for advices (hope u guys can bear with newbies).

recently i got myself a baby RES from LFS. well.. u know those small RES usually being sold. yes i did my part for some research and getting myself ready for the commitment in hope my RES could have better days in his/her (i dont know the gender tongue.gif) future life.

a little starter question tho that i might need some inputs from the experienced keeper:

1) i got provide UVB light but my RES seems not interested to bask under it. just once a while. it prefer to stay half body under water and half out. sometimes climb other rock on the other side of the enclosure for rest and get dry, but not under the UVB light. how can I encourage it to bask there? should i be worried?

2) the baby RES hardly taking his greens. provided with fresh salad at all time been made available for it. pellets as staple diet which he's eating okay but not as much. he likes the canned worms and brine a lot (he'll eat a lot when given these). provided once or twice a week only as treats. is this normal? will it cause problem in his health?

3) i got the calcium (no D3) powder thing. how the way i could provide this to him? he's rarely touch salad and the pellets, he only eat after soaked and become soft. he wont eat while it's still hard. can please suggest to me on what should i sprinkle the calcium so he will eat and get enough calcium in his diet? or should i feed something else? the brine everyday? please recommend.

heh, that's all for now and more to come definitely. hahaha!

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Hi! Welcome! I'm also very new. How big is it tort? How much u bought it? I think not eating vege is baby tort style. Need to teach them eat proper diet. Not sure about eating worm. Seems a bit high in protein. What is brine? Salt water?
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post Oct 28 2016, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(usermode @ Oct 28 2016, 11:05 PM)
The size is about 1.5in only. Still small. Dun want him get into unhealthy state at his age tho. I'll be damned. sad.gif

Any suggestion on "teaching proper diet" for his age?

Yes. Canned worms (bloodworms) and brine (brine shrimps) hv high protein so i try not to make it as staple diet. Read it before not to make these as main food. But i also read that baby RES are more towards carnivorous until at certain age, they'll switch to be more vegetarian later.

But at his age now, especially if i hv to provide calcium supplement, what can i give him so he can eat "normally" everyday so i can sprinkle the calcium on it?

Currently i only feed pellets (2-3 pellets everyday and that's only amount he will touch). Is this normal too? But his appetite will be like eating machine when give brine shrimps/bloodworms and i thought too often of these is not good for him, no?
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Not sure though. Especially RES . Mine is leopard. Try mixing the food with vege. Maybe he/she will accidentally eats the vege. I'm not fit to give any advice though. Cz my Tortoise is still sick.
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post Oct 29 2016, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(usermode @ Oct 28 2016, 11:32 PM)
It's ok mate. Any input from anyone will be highly appreciated. smile.gif

I did tried mix the bloodworms and vege, but my RES so smart, he just take the worms and leave the salad untouched. Maybe a bite, but he'll carefully pull those worms out from the mix on the next bites. zzzz...

Oh, hope ur leopard get well soon too.
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Hahaha so clever ah. Same with mine. I think we can't actually fool them. Mine oso will pick out the grass I gave him. Hahaha
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post Oct 30 2016, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 30 2016, 05:29 AM)
But be warned that what i breed are all illegal stuff ( can't provide paper ) , better to buy from west as those are mostly " imported " or bred locally with papers .

I only do the breeding because - my tortoise / turtle are big/old enough , I like this hobby , I like the challenges in trying to reproduce from them .

Downsizing since a few unhappy incident over the last few years .

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Blond leopard that I bred .
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I see. Hahaha I guess that's what ppl think. Actually same with me. At 1st I'm thinking of just having a companion for life then thinking of breeding. But then considering no vets here, better not to breed them unless expert liao. Now my tort sick also dunno what can do. Huhuhu... I wonder what happened over the last few years. Mind share share? I'm so busy body. Hahaha. Actually I don't think sabahan are doing it legally. The one I bought from the pet shop oso no papers one. How I wish I can visit ur tortoises.
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post Oct 30 2016, 06:56 PM

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Wah so jealous oh u guys can raise such healthy tortoises. I raise 1 oso headache liao. Provide this provide that oso not. Haiz...
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post Oct 30 2016, 06:57 PM

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Wah so jealous oh u guys can raise such healthy tortoises. I raise 1 oso headache liao. Provide this provide that oso not. Haiz...
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post Oct 31 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 31 2016, 10:10 AM)
Future yniphora hatchling....can booking ah?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Yniphora looks pretty. I wonder how much.
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post Oct 31 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Oct 31 2016, 10:12 AM)
Keep it simple, and easy. Only when its hatchling need to be extra care. Otherwise...they are just your lawn mover.  blush.gif
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Was keeping it easy. Maybe too paranoid till now he sick jor. Haiz... Poor thing.
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post Oct 31 2016, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(SAMPERTH @ Oct 31 2016, 08:01 PM)
I am releasing them cheaper than a super grade radiated tortoise or an albino leopard tortoise or albino sulcata or maybe a Galapagos tortoise !

But I did sell a few to a couple of good friends at way below what I usually sell .

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wah then from today on im ur best friend. good friend please stand aside. hahaha!
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post Nov 2 2016, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Nov 1 2016, 09:23 AM)
I will fly straight to EM, once it pops out from the hatchling egg.  blush.gif  tongue.gif
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how u bring back to west malaysia? can naik flight?
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post Nov 3 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Nov 2 2016, 06:19 PM)
Malaysia Boleh..
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really? What's the procedure? What requirement? teach me please... need quarantine or anything?
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post Nov 4 2016, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(tygoh @ Nov 3 2016, 08:35 PM)
Wattage does not matter. It depends what height you put the bulb above from the basking area. 35W or 100W also can. Example, 35W you will need to place closer, and 100W can be placed higher.
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I think he means uvb not heat la. not sure if car lamp emits that. Since we live in M'sia I think there are plenty of UVB from the sun . Unless you don't have time to put the tortoise outdoor la... then must rely on UVB lamp lo. Btw @tygoh the enclosure u copy paste that are I saw before. It's a bit unrealistic. That' y I ask here.The person says he lives in desert area but the temperature is 110 F . My backyard can easily reach 113°F +. Actually what is the best temperature for baby tortoises? some says 24°C -31°C while some says higher. I'm just confused

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