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lowpro
post Jun 3 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 3 2013, 09:38 AM)
sometimes petrol quality affects the engine too

you'll be suprised what you get in petrol nowadays  brows.gif
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yup. an rcz (my friend's car) once had poor petrol problem and was jerking badly. once they drained it out and refilled with new 95, it ran smoothly. very sensitive indeed. she was using 97 earlier. always bought from the same petrol station, no problem but one day i guess the batch of fuel was not good.
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post Jun 3 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 3 2013, 09:39 AM)
maybe non-tebo models doesn't have that safe mode on by default?  whistling.gif
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just checked. the safe mode is from france so that the cars are not damaged by transporters during delivery. it should be de-activated by pdi. this means the car should be on normal mode by the time it reaches the showroom. hope this info helps.

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post Jun 3 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 3 2013, 09:55 AM)
so nasim is assuming owners of 408 are the abusive kind and left safe-mode on until 2500kms  blush.gif
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shouldn't happen i think. should have been re-set before the cars leave pdi as i was told.
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post Jun 3 2013, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 3 2013, 10:54 AM)
you did your insulation kit edi?

lexus-like quality or not?

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bro, the other day i couldn't make it to the tt. my insulation kit still with you?
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post Jun 3 2013, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 3 2013, 12:25 PM)
The rest of the folks collected, only left 3 kits for eusened, lowpro and wislly.
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most probably next week. going overseas on Wednesday already. but i will pick it up from you when i'm back. will keep in touch.
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post Jun 11 2013, 10:34 PM

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here's the brochure of the 408 facelift in china. like what you see?

http://www.peugeot.com.cn/uploadfile/att/408.pdf

do note that their 2.0 is a 6-speed tiptronic while their 1.6 is the same engine used in the 207 sedan sold here with the old 4-speed transmission.

they do not have the 1.6 turbo there.

from what i saw the last few days there, i kinda like it pretty much.

by the way, just to add on, in china, their 508 comes in a 2.0L and 2.3L. both n/a and both equipped with 6-speed autos. again, no turbo engines.

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post Jun 11 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jun 11 2013, 10:42 PM)
in china, they do have 3008, 5008 308CC and Citroen C4L running 1.6THP.
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yup. but not for their mass cars. just wondering if there could be a reason for it. poor fuel in china? or simply less hassle for their service centres and customers with na engines?

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post Jun 11 2013, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(blu3 @ Jun 11 2013, 11:34 PM)
If I take PEUGEOT, the only reason is the turbo engine, that's all
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great. but there are many n/a fans out there too wink.gif china has 6-speed for their 2.0. i'm very sure the 2.0 here will have a much higher sales percentage if it is equipped with a full 6-speed auto as well.

hehehe, i corrected the spelling in my reply too biggrin.gif

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post Jun 12 2013, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(YFY @ Jun 12 2013, 05:57 AM)
I fully agree with you.

The attraction of the 408 Turbo is the Power (163 Ps) and the 6 speed auto gear.
China 1.6 L is grossly under power with 117 Ps but has a 6 speed auto gear.
Our 2.0 L is 145 Ps but disadvantaged by the 4 speed auto gear.

On top of that our road tax is only RM 90.00 (great saving with so much oomph)  icon_rolleyes.gif
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their 1.6 is the same unit in the 207 sedan here. that's why it is underpowered. but their 2.0 is where it makes a big difference with the 6-speed auto box. plus, performance wise, it isn't too shabby either. it is no tarmac burner but it can still hold its own among other na 2.0 out there.
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post Jun 12 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Jun 12 2013, 05:08 PM)
Keep up the pressure bro. I know this is hard,but try not to get emotional,on the long run best to be professional. I'm pretty sure your car will be fixed. I know worst cases,like a faulty gb by the 1st week. The car was fixed,but with a time factor. I'm not going to state the time to depress you further ,but rest assure,your problem will be solved.

The delay may not be totally due to Nassim. A good share of it is by Peugeot.  I say this from my experience with Airbus Industry.  We have found it extremely difficult to deal with the French when it comes to support and spares. There's always a breakdown in communication and tempers fly. I've found it helps to keep calm and professional.

Best of luck buddy!
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i give you 10 thumbup.gif

most of the time, it is not the local guys. it is usually the principal and the products that they sell here. who manufacturers the product? definitely not the local guys.

to termibait, it will be solved. it may take some time but it will be solved. just work nicely with the careline team and they will respond nicely to you as well. human nature i suppose. talk nicely to someone and the defence barriers will be taken down making it easier to get things done.
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post Jun 15 2013, 01:20 AM

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was good to have met you guys!
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post Jun 18 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Jun 18 2013, 02:58 PM)
Avoid doing complaint on Fri as they doing sembayang also. They might have not enough time to fix ur problem, ended up ur problem still there at the end.
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or can send e-mail to clic@naza.com.my (Careline) and call 1-800-88-6292 to confirm that they have received your mail.
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post Jun 25 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Jun 25 2013, 10:07 AM)
Hi
I'm one of the early owners of the 408t. It is spacious for all the family needs and has adequate power for my needs.I've had more than a dozen cars,the handling on this car is easily the best,levels above! I particularly like the steering feel and feedback. This was a big plus that attracted me to this car. I'm not a speed freak,but a car that handles twisty roads well with good steering feedback is a must for me.  IMO the steering feedback is more precise that the BMW F30 which I recently tested.

At launch of the car,there was no option for GPS, which was a big disappointment. After market GPS probably cost half the price quoted by Nassim,but that will void car warranty.  I guess if you really want it,go for the Nassim option GPS.
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hang on. the price quoted for the gps is not official/accurate and nasim is still working on the pricing. it is not even offered for sale officially yet. so, wait a while more. should be announced soon.
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hey lowpro, got to hunt for you to get your wisdom /insight, what is your take on the recent speculation on the GM taking control over Peugeot (sorry off topic here)


GM was in control of SAAB before. That was when I was still with SAAB/Porsche Malaysia.

This is the modus operandi. They took technology from SAAB (which they owned then), shared with the other brands in their stable, while at the same time starving SAAB of development money. When it came to the time to let SAAB go because it was simply too low on funds, they made sure that the company did not go to a company that had the funds to rejuvenate the brand. At least not for the next 10 years. Why? To protect Opel. Less one competitor is always better.

Opel is doing badly as well but it has a longer history with GM and produces cars that were slightly less off-beat compared to SAAB. This means easier to market products... then. But even so, the domestic market in Germany fell. VW went great guns etc. There was simply no room for Opel to manoeuvre and they need a fix fast - technologies, expertise that they can buy up on the cheap. well, cheaper is always better.

So, GM is probably thinking now, let's do the same with Peugeot. The connection with the Germany is this, BMW designs and Peugeot builds the engines. Then the engines are equally shared. The benefit to GM here is, they will have a stronger network, at least in France where Opel will be able to penetrate deeper. Plus, technology that indirectly came from BMW. This technology buy over and immediate network expansion is of course to be shared between its stable of brands. Once they have had enough of raiding the company and what's left of it, there is a high chance they will let PSA go... to the weakest bidder. Simply because PSA must not come back one day to be a threat to them.

Peugeot did offer DongFeng to buy into the company but the Chinese company is holding back. Simple really, to drive PSA into a more desperate situation. Likewise GM. Waiting like vultures, who will not take anything as long as there is still life to fight in PSA. Once half dead, then GM will probably offer peanuts to buy it over. if GM takes over, they have access to DongFeng's plants and network in China. They already have a strong Buick business there but it will be much better to expand when the sun shines. So, it doesn't really look good to me considering the factors that surround the whole situation.

I guess this is just my 2 cent's worth on the issue after seeing what they did to SAAB a short while back. In fact, the lawsuits are still not over between GM and SAAB. But it will probably be a long drawn affair before there is any decision.

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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Jul 3 2013, 03:43 PM)
oh no i'm loosing my mind  doh.gif

so can we please have a new raise of hands on who wants the wiper blade set?
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actually, the ori blades are pretty expensive. but, there is effort ongoing to lower those prices (one way or another).

just fyi, i found out why your front discs go thin quickly. it is the compound used for the pads. they have high metallic content for better braking (no asbestos used) but the flip side of the coin is that they dig in very hard into your discs, which results in really short braking distances.

so, the question is this, would you prefer a softer compound brake pad that has slightly less (but not life endangering) effectiveness than what you have now and prolong the lifespan of the discs or just go with the current?

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Thank you very much. This is great insight.

American companies are like that , e.g. Ford with once owned Volvo that was later sold to Geely china. But if Peugeot really have to go, then it had better end up how Fiat is in USA but that is a different who's the boss story.

I think American could use a bit of long gone French cars experience and it should sell great in Canada being French most there.

Peugeot may not end up like Saab, I think it will be more of a mini , jaguar , landrover, even Porsche kind of tradition kept story, well I should hope so
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well, hopefully they have an arrangement like fiat/chrysler to push peugeot in the states. then with bigger economies of scale they can really lower costs like what VW and other european brands are doing. Peugeot imho, it too euro centric. their current push into asean and just announced, china may be a little late considering that the VW group has been there for ages. even ford has a strong presence in china as i saw a lot more focus than 408 in beijing recently.

i also agree with you on canada. weird isn't it? predominantly french but no peugeot. even my relatives staying there say it is strange that there is no peugeot in canada.

but the fear is always there that there will one day be just raided for tech and left for dead.
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Jul 4 2013, 10:07 AM)
Help needed here.

I m in the dilemma of choosing insurance companies for my 408t.

insured amount suggested to me was rm105k.
wimdscreen rm3000.

now, etiqa, tokyo mRine, kurnia (fisrt yr under kurnia), or any better insurance company I can choose?

As peugeot insist owner to bring in their cars to peugeot centre for repair. I am wondering which insurance company would be hassle free to choose given the criteria of sending my car to SC is compulsory.

Appreciate your help.

thanks.
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for warranty on work done, e.g. fitment of lights, radiators, wiring etc, it will only be accepted if repairs are sent to nasim's workshops. if done outside, warranty will be void as in the case of one 308 owner who did own accident repair at outside workshop, wiring all screwed up and car died repeatedly. the owner then tried to claim warranty. as the official workshops had no record of the repair ever being done, the request for warranty was denied. the owner cried foul but i guess it is only fair to warrant for work done by the own centre.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Jul 4 2013, 02:59 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  if Dongfeng clinched the deal instead of GM, our pug will be well supported, Chinese car makers have been eyeing and making plans to come in to make Malaysia the RHD builders for APAC markets.

Many Chinese car makers have already made plans and making it work, so Dong feng may just join the same wave....

Cherry
http://www.chinacartimes.com/2013/05/chery...ry-in-malaysia/
Greatwall
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...t-in-Kedah.aspx

Foton ( nod.gif i know whom it sounds like biggrin.gif )
http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/chinas-...es-to-malaysia/

Did i left out anyone?

Geely was saying coming in then hold out then coming in then hold out and repeated that copule of times in the last few years

even electric cars?
http://star-motoring.com/News/2012/Three-C...-making-M-.aspx
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looks like both dongfeng and gm seem to be holding back. perhaps to drive share prices lower first before making the offer.

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post Jul 10 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jul 10 2013, 12:17 AM)
Yeah, realized that too, this gb behaves diff with other 4AT that I tried before
Sierra glow only 800 bucks..
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that is the engine braking. in honda and hyundai, they call it grade logic. it slows down the car automatically by using a lower gear if it finds the car going/gliding faster than the accelerator speed. it ia also considered a safety feature so that the car does not go faster than intended downhill. therefore if you step on the accelerator while the car is in low gear, the ecu understands this as "ok, the driver is comfortable with the speed and wants to go faster... downhill, so i will shift up for the driver to achieve that objective".

this feature is of course relatively new to the 'h' brands but has been with peugeot for some time already.

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Jul 9 2013, 11:35 PM)
Yup Naza will milk this cow. FL should be in the pipeline too!
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don't buy yet. it is not at that crazy price.

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