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C-Fu
post Jan 25 2013, 03:04 PM

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samak isn't troublesome, unless you call washing your hands with soap troublesome doh.gif samak is EXACTLY like washing soap. it's not like dabbing your hands into the dirty ground. we (and science also proves) that clean sand/dirt is the most effective common bacterial removal agent, much better than any soap and cheap too (almost free).


for muslims, there are only ONE breed of dog that can be considered, which is a special breed of hunting dog. One of the rarely known reasons is that muslims, at least those in old eras, view dogs not as a pet, but as a companion - for hunting, protection, etc.



It's a Saluki. just google it, retyping it won't serve any use. But if you've ever watched Hachiko the movie before, it's like that special bond lah between muslims and Saluki for thousands of years already. Some sects, like the Bedouins, regard the saluki as clean (can put in house, sleep together, etc). but only because of their lifestyle that it is clean.


not to say that you cannot bela a Husky lah. I used to take care of a German Shepherd before, outside of the house. samak wasn't a problem at all..... it's just like washing your hands, really. just that in my opinion if you bela because its cute ke, cantik ke, etc, that's not a normal consideration for muslims to own a companion dog as we don't see them as pets. but up to you ler.

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post Jan 25 2013, 03:06 PM

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of course you can have a husky,just move to alaska.
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 25 2013, 02:55 PM)
I STILL do not see that article say washing with soil is better than washing with soap. Show me ONE article, just ONE that says using dirt to wash your hands is BETTER THAN USING SOAP. Believe you me, I've tried "soil better than soap", "dirt better than soap" and "clay better than soap", and the results are a BIG FAT ZERO.

After all, the whole purpose of samak is to clean your the germs off your hands, right?

This is called solipsism, you only see things you want to see. That article says mud harnessed to fight infectsion. First of all, you don't even know what kind of mud they are referring to or its application. Secondly... dog saliva is NOT an infection. That's using the wrong tool to do the wrong job. Why not I help u samak your hands with a sand blaster and see how sparkly clean your hands will be.
See, this is what is wrong with Islam, it's a non-progressive religion. The practitioners will rather stick to old obsolete beliefs rather than use their own brains to think logically.
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I'm sorry if you deemed Islam as a non-progressive religion, i assure you every religion have their own ways of making others rejected their belief. For example judaism and rabbi suckle on penis and hinduism belief on cow feces miracle yet you don't see me questioning their motives do you?


If they believe that it could do more good than harm, so be it. For example, there's this one guy who believed that hemotoxin from snakes could cure cancer, he's been injecting himself with snakes venom for 20 years and still ongoing. Why does the conventional logic on toxin does not apply to this case?

like you said, solipsism.
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(amanstiva @ Jan 25 2013, 03:21 PM)
I'm sorry if you deemed Islam as a non-progressive religion, i assure you every religion have their own ways of making others rejected their belief. For example judaism and rabbi suckle on penis and hinduism belief on cow feces miracle yet you don't see me questioning their motives do you?
If they believe that it could do more good than harm, so be it. For example, there's this one guy who believed that hemotoxin from snakes could cure cancer, he's been injecting himself with snakes venom for 20 years and still ongoing. Why does the conventional logic on toxin does not apply to this case?

like you said, solipsism.
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I'm not a Jew nor am I a Hindu, and I find those practices (if true) are equally outdated. But if you're willing to show that such practices are mainstream, I'll be more than happy to call their religion non-progressive on your behalf.

I noticed you dodged the issue though... that is, isn't the whole purpose of samak to disinfect oneself? If yes, why is using dirt superior to using soap? If no, then no need answer, because then I will know it's no doubt for the same reason why "rabbi suckle on penis".
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Jan 25 2013, 03:04 PM)
we (and science also proves) that clean sand/dirt is the most effective common bacterial removal agent, much better than any soap and cheap too (almost free).
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Prove please. I'm sure if it's true there must be surgeons using sand and dirt to clean clean their hands before going into the operating theater.
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:48 PM

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No such thing as cannot lar, you can play you can touch.. later just need to wash. Alot of people just too lazy to wash so simplified it as cannot.

but eat of course haram lah.
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post Jan 25 2013, 03:55 PM

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Oh wow. Many people give correct answer for this, but still continue discussing?

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post Jan 25 2013, 03:59 PM

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using poop to clean ur hand?

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post Jan 25 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 24 2013, 06:55 PM)
I STILL do not see that article say washing with soil is better than washing with soap. Show me ONE article, just ONE that says using dirt to wash your hands is BETTER THAN USING SOAP. Believe you me, I've tried "soil better than soap", "dirt better than soap" and "clay better than soap", and the results are a BIG FAT ZERO.

After all, the whole purpose of samak is to clean your the germs off your hands, right?

This is called solipsism, you only see things you want to see. That article says mud harnessed to fight infectsion. First of all, you don't even know what kind of mud they are referring to or its application. Secondly... dog saliva is NOT an infection. That's using the wrong tool to do the wrong job. Why not I help u samak your hands with a sand blaster and see how sparkly clean your hands will be.
See, this is what is wrong with Islam, it's a non-progressive religion. The practitioners will rather stick to old obsolete beliefs rather than use their own brains to think logically.
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soil is indeed cleansing agen cos its veri fine hydrated molecular chain (alumina kaolinite talc ........) with apanama kovalent bond which make them pasticine like & easily shape yet break unlike polimer thingy liat
cleaning need fine molecule with disporposionate charging head it do find in soap & soil/clay as well
the bestest clay is the apanama ben....punya o forgot but it effective in deal with oil & not chemicaly irritating like some soap & no buih oso
soil is natural , soap is artificial, which one better depend aplicasion nya biggrin.gif
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post Jan 25 2013, 04:02 PM

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post Jan 25 2013, 04:14 PM

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If dog and pig is haram, Why the hell Allah make them ???????

Then again, Allah rather spread deadly sickness to humans instead of this HARAM animals.

Its logical that Human is more Haram than animals.
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QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Jan 25 2013, 04:14 PM)
If dog and pig is haram, Why the hell Allah make them ???????

Then again, Allah rather spread deadly sickness to humans instead of this HARAM animals.

Its logical that Human is more Haram than animals.
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No lah, don't troll like that. Even though I'm against the practice of samak, I will not say things like this.

That's like asking why god created dodo birds. Important thing is that it's here, and we deal with the problem properly.
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 25 2013, 03:45 PM)
Prove please. I'm sure if it's true there must be surgeons using sand and dirt to clean clean their hands before going into the operating theater.
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COMMON BACTERIAL REMOVAL AGENT. i don't think you understand what I wrote.
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:18 PM

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i want my future husband to be my dog brows.gif
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(achik1990 @ Jan 25 2013, 05:18 PM)
i want my future husband to be my dog brows.gif
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Susahnye syarat~
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kurapika @ Jan 25 2013, 05:21 PM)
Susahnye syarat~
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senang je.

he meant dia nak batang kecik.
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Jan 25 2013, 05:22 PM)
senang je.

he meant dia nak batang kecik.
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Kurapika @ Jan 25 2013, 05:21 PM)
Susahnye syarat~
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hahahaha ....
berminat ke? dont worry ..
i'll will cuddle u and treat u well brows.gif wub.gif

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post Jan 25 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(C-Fu @ Jan 25 2013, 05:22 PM)
senang je.

he meant dia nak batang kecik.
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lol batang anjing like husky is waaay bigger and longer thn urs...thats for sure
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post Jan 25 2013, 05:29 PM

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pape la achik, i rather not think about dog's d*** size. i don't even think my gay friends think about that everytime we hang out. ko suke batang anjing ko punye hal la bro/babe.


anyway bentonite and calcium-based minerals are used quite often as a cleansing agent. like here a water storage was accidentally treated to be clear gila babi, just because it's in a batu kapur mountain lombong.

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