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> Iban people is originated from China, So, Iban = Chinese = Bumi?

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TSG_KeN
post Jan 20 2013, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(DeerCollision @ Jan 20 2013, 10:42 PM)
Mind telling me what's wrong with my post? I don't see anything wrong, whereas your sig looks a bit more discriminating doesn't it?
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he's reporting ur overly large sig laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Jan 20 2013, 10:45 PM)
well if they include chinese as bumi. The everybody should be. Then 100% population is bumi. So why implement bumi policy when 100% population is bumi. Might as well scrap the bumi status entirely.
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which is why i question whether or not chinese too should be considered as bumi base on the said article.
then wouldnt it be unfair for iban to get bumiputra status if they were indeed originated from china like malaysian chinese?

QUOTE(georgie99 @ Jan 20 2013, 10:46 PM)
Tulisan iban kelia.nama iya turai..
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oh ya kah? bisi gambar kah tulisan turai nyak?
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post Jan 20 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Z1000 @ Jan 20 2013, 10:59 PM)
so your solution is strip ibans of bumi status so tat you can prove your point? Aiya you know tis wont happen, not in a million life times. Why you like to write tis type of thread tat you know wont made any difference. It only shows you are butt hurt person and have nothing better to do. Maybe you probably dont even have a job. Bcoz working ppl dont have time for tis nonsense. You only projecting yourself as the ultimate loser bcoz tis all you have. biggrin.gif
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aiyah i was just trying to make a case, without taking into consideration bumiputra benefits.
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post Jan 21 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kimmiey @ Jan 21 2013, 03:46 PM)
Salute you bro
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We should give african ppl who study here citizen too..
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if u think a sec longer, u would know this is not the issue about nationality but more of bumiputra status and right.
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:04 PM

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which country in this world that still practices something similar to bumi rights and benefits?
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Kimmiey @ Jan 21 2013, 04:05 PM)
Us.
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apart from malaysia....

huhue
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(tentenko @ Jan 21 2013, 04:11 PM)
bulak, beleik!!!!
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apuuuuu.. nyamai mai nuan ngangau nama urang beleeiiikkkk nehhhhhhhhh.. ka mintak kena bukut dekkkkkk???? mad.gif
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(firewire @ Jan 21 2013, 04:22 PM)
malay come from Yunnan la but nobody admits it
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ya kewww? got facts or not??
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(spwnc64 @ Jan 21 2013, 04:38 PM)
Ibanmen
I wanna ask
since this topic is a great debate among me and my friends
"Sniper vs Sumpit" who win?

i said sumpit la, very quiet one and sniper rifle's binocular can reflect  light, people will know theres sniper want to shoot you. so sumpit win la right?
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?

u wot m8?
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post Jan 21 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(firewire @ Jan 21 2013, 04:27 PM)
proof already destroyed, macam mana?
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post Jan 21 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Kimmiey @ Jan 21 2013, 05:18 PM)
Im Iban + Japanese = Jaban
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ya kerrrrrr?
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(itanium @ Oct 18 2013, 09:59 PM)
malay pendatang from indo why TS never kecoh?
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Because the topic is about Iban, not Malay.
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(windpath @ Oct 18 2013, 09:55 PM)
I come to this forum because my 3 years studying in private college in West Malaysia. I realize something. 1 person looks like my brother, 2 person, boy and girl looks like my cousins, and another person who looks like my ex-girlfriend. The thing that sparks my curiosity is that the looks alike people at my college here are Chinese, where as my brother,cousins, and ex-Gf are Ibans. o_o. Nyak ya, dini amat penatai kitai tuk kaban? engka amat kitai datai ari China din, engka mayuh kitai dituk dah campur2 ngau bansa lain di Borneo. Bedau gik sengkuam sidak Bidayuh,Lun Bawang, Kadazan nyin. Kitai pan endak entu nemu dini penatai sidak ya.
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bisi sepet mimit mata bala kitai iban. engka amai.

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garik tradisional bala orang taiwan bisi curak baka pua kumbu kitai iban
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(GamerKid @ Oct 22 2013, 07:40 PM)
Yes! Bisik orang iban! Hahaha
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urang iban nuan, bakih?
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Padron @ Oct 22 2013, 07:41 PM)
Issit? Tell me why iban and Chinese cannot unite..
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mind to elaborate more on 'cannot unite'?
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post Oct 22 2013, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(tentenko @ Oct 22 2013, 07:46 PM)
nama hal belayak2 towk..kak bukut??
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baru abis ngirup langkau.
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post Oct 22 2013, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(Chucknourish @ Oct 22 2013, 08:03 PM)
the Ibans have cannons...?
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my family has a cannon.
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post Oct 22 2013, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Oct 22 2013, 08:08 PM)
it's Austronesian for Sheogorath sake doh.gif doh.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_peoples

you smoking hack3line legendary weed, TS?
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Archaeological evidence demonstrates a technological connection between the farming cultures of the south (Southeast Asia and Melanesia) and sites that are first known from mainland China, whereas a combination of archaeological and linguistic evidence has been interpreted as supporting a northern (southern China and Taiwan) origin for the Austronesian language family. In a recent treatment, all Austronesian languages were classified into 10 subfamilies, with all the extra-Formosan languages grouped in one subfamily and with representatives of the remaining 9 known only in Taiwan.[5] It has been argued that these patterns are best explained by dispersal of an agricultural people from Taiwan into insular Southeast Asia, Melanesia, and, ultimately, the remote Pacific. Although this model—termed the “express train to Polynesia”[6][7] – is broadly consistent with available data, concerns have been raised.[8] Alternatives to this model posit an indigenous origin for the Austronesian languages in Melanesia or Southeast Asia

tldr: Migration and dispersion from China/Taiwan. (regarded as one of the theories)

well, i copy pasta from ur link. so, thanks for agreeing with me. tongue.gif
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post Oct 22 2013, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Oct 22 2013, 08:09 PM)
bisi tuak ditu
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nama utai insap nuan dlm gambar nuan nyak, dom?
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post Oct 22 2013, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Oct 22 2013, 08:27 PM)
read carefully lah
and china chinese is not even our ancestor by default

but the FACT i acknoledge that chinese has been present in Sabah and Sarawak and probably assimilate or integrate to either kadazan dusun, iban, murut, bidayuh, melanau, dayak etc during the middle ages toward the industrial revolution ages, in which we can still see today.
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the study only refute the claim of mass population replacement to replace the PREEXISTING HUNTING AND GATHERING POPULATIONS BY FARMER VOYAGING IMMIGRANTS FROM TAIWAN.

Not to mention, i copy pasta my original content from wiki itself:
Iban People

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The Ibans were the original inhabitants of Borneo Island. Like the other Dayak tribes, they were originally farmers, hunters, and gatherers. Not much is known about Iban people before the arrival of the Western expeditions to Asia. Nothing was ever recorded by any voyagers about them. The history of the migration of Iban people traces back to China where historians believe that the original Iban people migrated from Yunnan, a province in rural China.


Anyway, my real intention of creating this thread in the first place is to question the legitimacy of bumiputra status. Who are we to decide who owned this piece of land? People keep on barking "hey my ancestors lived here first, so i should have special privilege bla bla bla' when the fact that their original ancestors are from Africa. (or if u are practicing abrahimic religions, Adam and Eve)


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