QUOTE(fe3doe @ Apr 13 2013, 11:00 AM)
baru sambar seketul cold/30%/RF cc SOJ kalau x best jual balik mahal2 hahaha
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Apr 13 2013, 11:14 AM
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Apr 13 2013, 11:36 AM
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With the hatred reduce it is possible to build infinite RF.. By using bat pet and dml alone...
And weapon of choice would be manticore due to it's slow drainage from hatred pool when you do channeling atk.. But the draw back is... It only atk single target... Which is good for uber/boss fight... And coop with cm wizard... This post has been edited by lksing78: Apr 13 2013, 11:41 AM |
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Apr 13 2013, 11:59 AM
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Still a pointless buff. If they want to buff, do a complete buff or don't buff at all
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Apr 13 2013, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Apr 13 2013, 10:25 AM) thats a big buff! will be a great single target skill for DH anything channeling won't give you much damage on high MP because you have to be constantly moving unless you can face tank la. but yeah still the best single target skill on DH because rapid fire damage is not per bang like say spike traps.they shud buff ballistics passive as well hehe QUOTE(Gecko @ Apr 13 2013, 10:42 AM) yup .. gonna give it a try on PTR and see how noticeable the dmg buff is Okay you better not do that because it won't work. I think you misunderstand elemental damage concept.RF-Webshot (to maintain phycl dmg so can use cold SoJ + CotW passive.. mobs get slow down by 80% + chilled by cold SoJ) Bola-Bitter Pill (for AoE & disc gen) Prep-Punishment (for more Hatred) However as Deckard Cain pointed out to me RF buff will benefit Cala users more than Manti users. Physical damage IS elemental damage. Cold SoJs WILL ONLY work on a skill that says weapon damage. If a skill has an elemental nature by default, it retains its elemental nature and will not replaced by cold. A good example would be Ball Lightning. Yes CtW will proc but due to the tool tip description of Webshot not because you had a cold SoJ on board. I fail to see why RF buff will benefit calamity users? you're gonna be wasting more hatred due to the high AS of calamity. Same scenario with strafe. The way I look at it, Manti users gets the most from Calamity due to slowed hatred spending and harder hitting. Hope my clarification helps. QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 13 2013, 11:36 AM) With the hatred reduce it is possible to build infinite RF.. By using bat pet and dml alone... Yeap manticore due to slower hatred spending. and yeah, almost infinite hatred is possible. I tried this long time ago on ghom when inferno was soooooo hard back then. And weapon of choice would be manticore due to it's slow drainage from hatred pool when you do channeling atk.. But the draw back is... It only atk single target... Which is good for uber/boss fight... And coop with cm wizard... QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 13 2013, 11:59 AM) Anything not burst is crap for the DH imo. |
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Apr 13 2013, 12:41 PM
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I fail to see how burst damage would benefit manticore with its slow poke attack speed even with its infinite hatred.
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Apr 13 2013, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Apr 13 2013, 12:41 PM) I fail to see how burst damage would benefit manticore with its slow poke attack speed even with its infinite hatred. if we are talking about RF now, reason isslower hatred spending so your damage per hatred spend is much better. (you'll run out of hatred with calamity really quick). Same situation with strafers In general, reason is Burst damage is speed independent so manticore will always do much more damage per bang. |
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Apr 13 2013, 01:15 PM
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Sorry, I literally still don't see any benefits as a whole not even with the RF buff. It's still rubbish and an express counter meassure to DH crying for a buff. That is all.
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Apr 13 2013, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(2890 @ Apr 13 2013, 12:19 PM) anything channeling won't give you much damage on high MP because you have to be constantly moving unless you can face tank la. but yeah still the best single target skill on DH because rapid fire damage is not per bang like say spike traps. thx for the clarification bro .. initially regretted buying out the cold/30%/RF cc SoJ after reading ur explaination .. then i tried putting it on AH for 100m (bought it for 26m) .. few hrs later it was sold Okay you better not do that because it won't work. I think you misunderstand elemental damage concept. Physical damage IS elemental damage. Cold SoJs WILL ONLY work on a skill that says weapon damage. If a skill has an elemental nature by default, it retains its elemental nature and will not replaced by cold. A good example would be Ball Lightning. Yes CtW will proc but due to the tool tip description of Webshot not because you had a cold SoJ on board. I fail to see why RF buff will benefit calamity users? you're gonna be wasting more hatred due to the high AS of calamity. Same scenario with strafe. The way I look at it, Manti users gets the most from Calamity due to slowed hatred spending and harder hitting. Hope my clarification helps. Yeap manticore due to slower hatred spending. and yeah, almost infinite hatred is possible. I tried this long time ago on ghom when inferno was soooooo hard back then. Anything not burst is crap for the DH imo. |
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Apr 13 2013, 04:45 PM
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every where i see in pub game .....
monk have bell build barb have ww build wizard have cm build wd have 0 dog build DH have .......build fill in the blank with correct answer and you can stand to win a mystery prize This post has been edited by lksing78: Apr 13 2013, 04:46 PM |
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Apr 13 2013, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Apr 13 2013, 04:45 PM) every where i see in pub game ..... most monk i come across in pub always hv bell (90%)monk have bell build barb have ww build wizard have cm build wd have 0 dog build DH have .......build fill in the blank with correct answer and you can stand to win a mystery prize most barb i come across in pub always hv ww (99%) most wiz i come across in pub always cm (80%) sumtime can find archon wiz too for wd 0dog is most common on high mp but i come across a lot of bear/spirit barrage/rojak build too for DH .. idk so many rojak build .. the only one i stay away from are those with sharpshooter passive |
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Apr 15 2013, 07:18 PM
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@lksing78
please give multiple choice answer... |
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Apr 16 2013, 03:07 AM
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Want to play range GLASS CANNON on DH on MP8-10?
1. Don't need AR. (350 enough) 2. Don't need that much VIT 3. No hatred generator needed (but is better go with one with HA if you plan to do so. If not, you get a buriza on your scoundrel.) 4. Can solo without follower but need proper utilization of caltrops and BB. 5. DON'T HAVE TO BUY NAT RING AND MOST IMPORTANTLY 6. NO NEED TO STACK ATTACK SPEED and NO NEED FOR THE OVERPRICED MANTICORE Skills EA - BL RoV - BB Caltrops - BTT Prep: Backup Plan SP - Gloom Bat Companion Passive CtW NS Vengeance Mandatory gear: Cold SoJ My friend made this DH with NO BOLA/HA/ES/Grenades. And we complement each other nicely on high MP. I slow with my HA and Scatter and he hit huge group of mobs with BL. YES BL on MP8-10. The BL does 500-600k per hit. Now imagine one big group of mobs coming your way. One slow the other spam BL. Slow moving BL gonna hit everything in it's path for 500-600k per hit. Check this build out http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Impreza...1/hero/18930023 SO GLASS CANNON DH IS MP8-10 CAPABLE! No more face tanking! This post has been edited by 2890: Apr 16 2013, 03:12 AM |
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Apr 16 2013, 11:40 AM
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hmm..this just up...
Source : http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/1c...tr_build_today/ ![]() feel free to look into it..in new PTR..for 1.08 |
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Apr 16 2013, 09:46 PM
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To back up glass canon claim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9M_O0qU63I look at how hard BL hits. This post has been edited by 2890: Apr 16 2013, 09:46 PM |
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Apr 18 2013, 07:11 PM
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just pass by to bump....
and clean up spider web.....so many in here This post has been edited by lksing78: Apr 18 2013, 07:11 PM |
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Apr 18 2013, 07:22 PM
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So sad
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Apr 19 2013, 10:30 AM
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Yesterday saw a very nice dml with 336 dex, 275vit, 19 ias,
Bid price at 56m Today wake up saw it goes wooping 400m...ok forget bout it... I don wan to pay 400m for extra 50vit... No way...this is ree-dlick-cu-loss |
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Apr 19 2013, 11:03 AM
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Apr 19 2013, 11:10 AM
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^^
nice for rich players who can afford to spend hundred of mils just for a minor dps/ehp boost ... lolz |
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Apr 19 2013, 11:11 AM
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