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 Demon Hunter V3, Patch 1.07 - PVP OWNAGE!

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SUS2890
post Jan 23 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Jan 23 2013, 03:42 PM)
i play my dh against throw barb and i got a hard time , how to counter them ?
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well DH is not your main so guess that's your problem. Gears wise probably won't be enough i guess.
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post Jan 23 2013, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Jan 23 2013, 03:27 PM)
I'll share with you how i own most barbs i've met so far. Before you read further, you need to know that your DPS only works up till certain EHP (HP, armor). My limit is 130k HP, 10k armor.

Ways to own barbs in PVP

1. Frostburn Gaunlets/Stone of Jordan (cold elemental)
- run Strafe: Rocket Storm
- Elemental Arrow: Frost Arrow
- Cull the Weak passives
- spider companion

Only works effectively against barbs with lower EHP and 1 v 1. Strafe benefits from the snare of SoJ and in turn enables Cull the Weak to kick in. Why should u use this? Well, owning them with Frostburn gauntlets, amazing satisfaction. Watch them being slowed while you strafe at them is hilarious.

2.4P Legacy + Battle Scars
- if you have decent EHP, battle scars is like a second life for most DH that uses 4P legacy set.
- Bear in mind that most barbs have (except top ends one like moldRan) to sacrifice their DPS for EHP. Most of them drops their skorn to use stormshield. So Rend won't be that effective anymore and won't one shot us if we have decent EHP.

4P legacy rocks in PVP. The only problem you have might be when u duel with another DH but that's another story.

3. Top Right Corner near the walls
- Barbs favorite hiding place.
- To counter this, u can drop a turret there and make them move, shoot them from the opposite or use Cluster Arrow: Shooting Stars (homing rockets).

4. Rend
- Keep your distance cuz this skill goes through smoke screen.
- most of the time to get near to you, their only way is to leap. I think that can be avoided easily. Once they leap, pop SS and start firing at them. Shouldn't be that hard if u r use to it.

Can't think of any at the moment. One of my favorites is use spitfire turret to make fun of them.

Anyway Good luck and continue owning =)
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Thanks for the detail guide. Usually i can pawn lower ehp barb easily especially those below 500k ehp. i can 1 shot them when crit with LfB.

Hardest barb is the one with 1.5mil ehp above and with 110k dps. Any tips to deal with those. icon_question.gif

Currently i'm doing 139k dps unbuff and have 450k ehp. Just recently upgrade my gears to 990k ehp but my dps is lower down to 109k..... sad.gif
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post Jan 23 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(hchoox @ Jan 23 2013, 03:55 PM)
Thanks for the detail guide. Usually i can pawn lower ehp barb easily especially those below 500k ehp. i can 1 shot them when crit with LfB.

Hardest barb is the one with 1.5mil ehp above and with 110k dps. Any tips to deal with those. icon_question.gif

Currently i'm doing 139k dps unbuff and have 450k ehp. Just recently upgrade my gears to 990k ehp but my dps is lower down to 109k.....  sad.gif
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if u have 990k EHP, 110k DPS barbs aren't a problem at all. I have 820k EHP with my full set and way lower when i use legacy set. Don't really have much problem to be honest.

Well, no tips to deal with them apart from getting more DPS. I did mention before everyone have a limit here. So your limit probably is 1.5m EHP cuz of your low DPS.

and btw, if no life regen here, maybe you can slowly wear them down but most barbs have decent life regen or passives that gives them HP. so susah la.
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post Jan 23 2013, 06:31 PM

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I knew nat wrath goin to be usefull
hahahaha
sell them soon as 107 goes live...since i not interested in pvp.
cause i'm sux against human.
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post Jan 24 2013, 04:49 AM

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Just saw 3 of the same Nat Reflection on AH... wow... the dupes are coming... where's the gem?

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post Jan 24 2013, 06:34 PM

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Hi fellow DH,

Wassup? rather quiet here. I personally have not played for 2 days.
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post Jan 24 2013, 06:43 PM

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So fellow DH out there,

Here's my profile....
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/choohun...1/Neal/15875082

Any place that need further improvement for higher mp's

Right now, most comfort mp is mp3 for me...
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post Jan 24 2013, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(hchoox @ Jan 24 2013, 06:43 PM)
So fellow DH out there,

Here's my profile....
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/choohun...1/Neal/15875082

Any place that need further improvement for higher mp's

Right now, most comfort mp is mp3 for me...
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Amulet
- get one with CC and CHD. I know there's tons of DEX there but i think a CC and CHD one would benefit you.

DML
- 20 AS and MAX DISC or
- 20 AS and Double DEX/VIT roll

I think the later benefit you more since you have 60 DISC already. I know 20 AS hungering arrow DMLs are expensive. Maybe try 19. 14 is too low.

I think with this two upgrades, you can hit 170k unbuff DPS.
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post Jan 24 2013, 07:22 PM

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This is a skill problem not gear problem
if u wan to farm higher mp
chg ur skill....
Hungering sux at AOE for high mp (mp7 solo) imho

try this:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demo...;efX!aZcYaZ

I use these for higher mp (mp5-mp8) solo.
elite fight
-just plant Sentry /Guardian
-plant spiketrap/echoing blast under u or ur surrounding (much more efficent then other skill dmg/hatred ratio is good ...plant and forget bout it)
-blast away with bola /volatile and see those crit at work (since u have 53% cc) those will regen ur disp (if u use night stalker passive)in less then 5 sec...for u to gloom again...no need extra disp.
-pop gloom if hp go low
-pop lingering if jailer/frost u..sked elite cook u using molten.
(but ppl saying molten will be nerf in 107 so less pain)

This post has been edited by lksing78: Jan 24 2013, 07:28 PM
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post Jan 24 2013, 07:24 PM

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agree 2980.. switch the amulet with >50% (preferably >70%) crid dmg and lower dex would benefit u more.. and DML with higher attackspeed. 20 is expensive to get can try 18 or above (preferably >19)
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post Jan 24 2013, 07:30 PM

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IF he wants to farm higher MP, get more DPS first. 130k is not going to get you anywhere. Might work with TONS of kiting and death.

Yeah echo blast is good for high MP with Bola: Volatile. i agree but i'm a sucker for Cluster Arrows and Hungering Arrows. =)

I use spray of teeth and LfB/CB for MP5 and above. Actually, i use HA for all MPs
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post Jan 24 2013, 07:32 PM

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if he upgrade the DML he goin to lost 300 vit...which is very very large lost in ehp there
>250 vit DML with ias20% is not cheap to start with..

2890
for high mp i don kite anymore...no point kite since we can't kill any of those ******* in one shot..
end up chase u till end of the screen..lol
might as well just stand there and see who die 1st...lol
thats why i op for bola/volatile ...cause it help my crit and disp rregen ...for me to almost perma gloom whole battle..

This post has been edited by lksing78: Jan 24 2013, 07:37 PM
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post Jan 25 2013, 12:02 AM

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Anyone got link to recording soft. I just did ghom MP10 with the simplest setup. Want to record it down
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post Jan 25 2013, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 24 2013, 07:32 PM)
if he upgrade the DML he goin to lost 300 vit...which is very very large lost in ehp there
>250 vit DML with ias20% is not cheap to start with..

2890
for high mp i don kite anymore...no point kite since we can't kill any of those ******* in one shot..
end up chase u till end of the screen..lol
might as well just stand there and see who die 1st...lol
thats why i op for bola/volatile ...cause it help my crit and disp rregen ...for me to almost perma gloom whole battle..
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yeah i agree. I love kiting cuz it makes me feel like a pro =D

I can tank those mobs but it feels likes a monk holding FoT and spamming mantras and other skills. No fun man.


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post Jan 25 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Jan 25 2013, 12:02 AM)
Anyone got link to recording soft. I just did ghom MP10 with the simplest setup. Want to record it down
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Bandicam? there's tons of recording softwares for windows user. But if u're a mac user like me. then tough luck.
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post Jan 25 2013, 01:10 AM

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Oh i've never recorded anything on my comp believe it or not. lul. But just going to try it out. I was doing ubers mp8 then everyone died against Ghom Rak but I continued glooming with bola shot... and I didn't die.... so thought I tried it with Ghom mp10 and it worked.. no sentry no traps nothing..
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post Jan 25 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 24 2013, 07:32 PM)
if he upgrade the DML he goin to lost 300 vit...which is very very large lost in ehp there
>250 vit DML with ias20% is not cheap to start with..

2890
for high mp i don kite anymore...no point kite since we can't kill any of those ******* in one shot..
end up chase u till end of the screen..lol
might as well just stand there and see who die 1st...lol
thats why i op for bola/volatile ...cause it help my crit and disp rregen ...for me to almost perma gloom whole battle..
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dml gives 170-200 vit. switching to another dml only lose 100+ vit. that can be added back by switching 1 (amulet) or 2 gears.

i would prefer vault since it use less disc.. ss is costly imo.. i like to plant 2 GT at a vault distance and plant traps in between. semi kite/tank style lol
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post Jan 25 2013, 11:55 AM

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OMG can't belip marquise ruby is damn pawerful then emerald
instant gip me 10k dps boost on ruby compare to 3kdps on emerald..
babai emerald ...
put 2 ruby on manti ans see them fly...no emerald needed..

just check using d3up.com
dragon try see ur bow...

make me think wan to get the 13++dps 200int 2 soc manti man...75mil only
haiyohhh...20AR also ok la...
sold de vmad.gif

This post has been edited by lksing78: Jan 25 2013, 12:28 PM
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post Jan 25 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Jan 25 2013, 11:37 AM)
dml gives 170-200 vit. switching to another dml only lose 100+ vit. that can be added back by switching 1 (amulet) or 2 gears.


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nah the costing will almost be the same..
wat if keep the DML and upgrade amulet and ring with ias

or

chg dml with higher ias and buy amulet and ring with vit...

at the end the diffrent still be the same ...need a lot of gold... laugh.gif
no gold no dps... sweat.gif
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post Jan 25 2013, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(lksing78 @ Jan 25 2013, 11:55 AM)
make me think wan to get the 13++dps 200int 2 soc manti man...75mil only
haiyohhh...20AR also ok la...
sold de vmad.gif
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wow looks like a good deal??! maybe ppl trying to resell? lol

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